ok so a trip up the road and 25 dollars later
here is what we got
first is 11.6" x 27" x 4"
second one for my daughter is
9.1"x 25" x 4 thruster setup
now have to make some paddles and put some grip and see how they go
well not the best paddle but works 6 foot
total out lay so far 35 dollars
and one hour time