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Created by laceys lane > 9 months ago, 7 Jun 2019
laceys lane
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8 Jun 2019 12:32PM
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Aren't lost made out of Dan McDonald's factory in Currumbin by Australians/Kiwis? CI is made in Australia somewhere, rhino in Sydney I think. I would imagine all of the labour and materials are sourced onshore from Australian businesses, the only import is the file sent via email.

Campbell Bros bronzers are shaped at rhino in Sydney by an Australian... My midlength was shaped by an American who purchased a Burford blank, shaped at NPJ's factory in Currumbin and glassed by NPJ's glasser......

The surfboard industry has survived the introduction of shaping machines, FireWire, cheap Chinese imports.... I am sure the American invasion won't phase them..,.. if there is an invasion... I can't see your point Lacey




Our own shaping innovative and design will suffer i believe. Already a lot of shapers are ghosting. Where will aussie master shapers come.
The other part is they really dont want any local small time shapers around.
that is their aim. They see it as competition to the their market. And the big amercian label board shops are active too

A shop i did some shop fitting to years a go was given a ultimation and then they took over

Macaha
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8 Jun 2019 12:36PM
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Macaha said..
Well worth checking out is North Coast surfboards at Byron they make some high end American boards under licence,top quality.



Exactly, buy a Tak and you're still supporting the Australian surf industry just as if you go down the road and buy a McTavish


and that I did beautiful boards.

Macaha
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8 Jun 2019 12:40PM
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onefin said..
Aren't lost made out of Dan McDonald's factory in Currumbin by Australians/Kiwis? CI is made in Australia somewhere, rhino in Sydney I think. I would imagine all of the labour and materials are sourced onshore from Australian businesses, the only import is the file sent via email.

Campbell Bros bronzers are shaped at rhino in Sydney by an Australian... My midlength was shaped by an American who purchased a Burford blank, shaped at NPJ's factory in Currumbin and glassed by NPJ's glasser......

The surfboard industry has survived the introduction of shaping machines, FireWire, cheap Chinese imports.... I am sure the American invasion won't phase them..,.. if there is an invasion... I can't see your point Lacey





Our own shaping innovative and design will suffer i believe. Already a lot of shapers are ghosting. Where will aussie master shapers come.
The other part is they really dont want any local small time shapers around.
that is their aim. They see it as competition to the their market. And the big amercian label board shops are active too

A shop i did some shop fitting to years a go was given a ultimation and then they took over


That ultimatum happens in many industries, you either tick the numbers over or you will lose the rights to stock the brand.

Like in some franchise agreements ,you have a minimum monthly spend with head office, if you don't reach these targets the legal letters start rolling in.

onefin
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8 Jun 2019 10:52AM
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But we're talking different goals Lacey, high volume shortboard production is a different game. Those fondling a CI neckbeard won't be calling Mick Mackie anytime soon.

Bryan Bates, Corey Munn, NPJ, Dick van Straalen,Ash ward etc don't want to play that high production machine cut shapes game. These guys limit their weekly/annual production.

Inevitably some will get caught in no man's land but if you want, creativity and a quality handshape, there are and will be plenty of homegrown options.

laceys lane
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8 Jun 2019 12:54PM
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laceys lane said..



onefin said..
Aren't lost made out of Dan McDonald's factory in Currumbin by Australians/Kiwis? CI is made in Australia somewhere, rhino in Sydney I think. I would imagine all of the labour and materials are sourced onshore from Australian businesses, the only import is the file sent via email.

Campbell Bros bronzers are shaped at rhino in Sydney by an Australian... My midlength was shaped by an American who purchased a Burford blank, shaped at NPJ's factory in Currumbin and glassed by NPJ's glasser......

The surfboard industry has survived the introduction of shaping machines, FireWire, cheap Chinese imports.... I am sure the American invasion won't phase them..,.. if there is an invasion... I can't see your point Lacey







Our own shaping innovative and design will suffer i believe. Already a lot of shapers are ghosting. Where will aussie master shapers come.
The other part is they really dont want any local small time shapers around.
that is their aim. They see it as competition to the their market. And the big amercian label board shops are active too

A shop i did some shop fitting to years a go was given a ultimation and then they took over




That ultimatum happens in many industries, you either tick the numbers over or you will lose the rights to stock the brand.

Like in some franchise agreements ,you have a minimum monthly spend with head office, if you don't reach these targets the legal letters start rolling in.



was a stock issue for sure.

But is being told told to close up and we're taking over cool
See your point mac. But those involved reckoned it sucked.
And that's my whole point. They are taking over.

Seems to me like your all for yank brands dominating the australian industry!!!!!

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
8 Jun 2019 1:01PM
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Ok. I beaten.
More amercian label boards in australia the better.
The futures looking all good

Macaha
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8 Jun 2019 1:07PM
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Macaha said..




laceys lane said..





onefin said..
Aren't lost made out of Dan McDonald's factory in Currumbin by Australians/Kiwis? CI is made in Australia somewhere, rhino in Sydney I think. I would imagine all of the labour and materials are sourced onshore from Australian businesses, the only import is the file sent via email.

Campbell Bros bronzers are shaped at rhino in Sydney by an Australian... My midlength was shaped by an American who purchased a Burford blank, shaped at NPJ's factory in Currumbin and glassed by NPJ's glasser......

The surfboard industry has survived the introduction of shaping machines, FireWire, cheap Chinese imports.... I am sure the American invasion won't phase them..,.. if there is an invasion... I can't see your point Lacey









Our own shaping innovative and design will suffer i believe. Already a lot of shapers are ghosting. Where will aussie master shapers come.
The other part is they really dont want any local small time shapers around.
that is their aim. They see it as competition to the their market. And the big amercian label board shops are active too

A shop i did some shop fitting to years a go was given a ultimation and then they took over






That ultimatum happens in many industries, you either tick the numbers over or you will lose the rights to stock the brand.

Like in some franchise agreements ,you have a minimum monthly spend with head office, if you don't reach these targets the legal letters start rolling in.





was a stock issue for sure.

But is being told told to close up and we're taking over cool
See your point mac. But those involved reckoned it sucked.
And that's my whole point. They are taking over.

Seems to me like your all for yank brands dominating the australian industry!!!!!



Lacey it sucks having heavy weights standing over you as you slog your guts out week in week out.
It at times could feel as if your not running your own business.
So yeah not cool but thats a fact of life small business owners have and then theres the landlords.

Great top no winners or losers in here unless your in the surf industry so all good.

Lets blame Trump

SP
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8 Jun 2019 11:53AM
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Be great to see the actual numbers. Aussie shapers are exporters too, wonder the $ value of imports vs the $ value of exports.

Admittedly some Aussie brands build os but still be interesting to find out if we are a net exporter or importer of surfboards and what % that is of the total market.

I think the American labels in midlength is a small percentage, same as it has always been. Of the boards I've bought in 25 years. 3 are American shapers made in Oz with Australian bits sold through Aussie shops. I wanted a bonzer. I have a Campbell Bros, I've wanted a c bucket for 15 years before I got one.
They were long time wants.

I've bought many times over more aussie boards than os or os branded boards

Surfing has always, well from the 70s on, had overseas brands made locally under license. Their are just more of them. Saying we should stop imports is like saying Hayden and JS etc should not sell boards in the US or Japan. Admittedly a lot of these boards aren't produced locally where they are sold but still its a local based company and profits are returned and spent here

laceys lane
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8 Jun 2019 2:27PM
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SP said..
Be great to see the actual numbers. Aussie shapers are exporters too, wonder the $ value of imports vs the $ value of exports.

Admittedly some Aussie brands build os but still be interesting to find out if we are a net exporter or importer of surfboards and what % that is of the total market.

I think the American labels in midlength is a small percentage, same as it has always been. Of the boards I've bought in 25 years. 3 are American shapers made in Oz with Australian bits sold through Aussie shops. I wanted a bonzer. I have a Campbell Bros, I've wanted a c bucket for 15 years before I got one.
They were long time wants.

I've bought many times over more aussie boards than os or os branded boards

Surfing has always, well from the 70s on, had overseas brands made locally under license. Their are just more of them. Saying we should stop imports is like saying Hayden and JS etc should not sell boards in the US or Japan. Admittedly a lot of these boards aren't produced locally where they are sold but still its a local based company and profits are returned and spent here


Yes. If we are talking mid lengths, it would be interesting to see what the percentage is . Especially in those funky glassing shops mid to north coast nsw
Im betting most of them are amercian labels .
Which is what we want

laceys lane
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8 Jun 2019 2:29PM
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Macaha said..

laceys lane said..



Macaha said..





laceys lane said..






onefin said..
Aren't lost made out of Dan McDonald's factory in Currumbin by Australians/Kiwis? CI is made in Australia somewhere, rhino in Sydney I think. I would imagine all of the labour and materials are sourced onshore from Australian businesses, the only import is the file sent via email.

Campbell Bros bronzers are shaped at rhino in Sydney by an Australian... My midlength was shaped by an American who purchased a Burford blank, shaped at NPJ's factory in Currumbin and glassed by NPJ's glasser......

The surfboard industry has survived the introduction of shaping machines, FireWire, cheap Chinese imports.... I am sure the American invasion won't phase them..,.. if there is an invasion... I can't see your point Lacey










Our own shaping innovative and design will suffer i believe. Already a lot of shapers are ghosting. Where will aussie master shapers come.
The other part is they really dont want any local small time shapers around.
that is their aim. They see it as competition to the their market. And the big amercian label board shops are active too

A shop i did some shop fitting to years a go was given a ultimation and then they took over







That ultimatum happens in many industries, you either tick the numbers over or you will lose the rights to stock the brand.

Like in some franchise agreements ,you have a minimum monthly spend with head office, if you don't reach these targets the legal letters start rolling in.






was a stock issue for sure.

But is being told told to close up and we're taking over cool
See your point mac. But those involved reckoned it sucked.
And that's my whole point. They are taking over.

Seems to me like your all for yank brands dominating the australian industry!!!!!




Lacey it sucks having heavy weights standing over you as you slog your guts out week in week out.
It at times could feel as if your not running your own business.
So yeah not cool but thats a fact of life small business owners have and then theres the landlords.

Great top no winners or losers in here unless your in the surf industry so all good.

Lets blame Trump


all good mac. As long as its amercian label heavyweights.

Oceanside Dru
NSW, 54 posts
8 Jun 2019 8:00PM
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personally I love looking at the US boards , its great to see the shapes coming from there . plus as I assume your talking in part about the christensons, that are made in Sydney at Rhino, they are quality all the way and its paying wages to some very talented people! sure some goes back overseas ,maybe it takes work from local shapers, or is it giving ghosting work to them? ****, people have big quivers these days n im sure if they are dropping 2 g on a board they've paid for a few Aussie shapers boards too, but **** who knows hey.

Macaha
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10 Jun 2019 8:11AM
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Oceanside Dru said..
personally I love looking at the US boards , its great to see the shapes coming from there . plus as I assume your talking in part about the christensons, that are made in Sydney at Rhino, they are quality all the way and its paying wages to some very talented people! sure some goes back overseas ,maybe it takes work from local shapers, or is it giving ghosting work to them? ****, people have big quivers these days n im sure if they are dropping 2 g on a board they've paid for a few Aussie shapers boards too, but **** who knows hey.

LACEY licking his wounds

laceys lane
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10 Jun 2019 8:14AM
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No hes not chicken man

5 years time come back to me

Macaha
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10 Jun 2019 8:44AM
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laceys lane said..
No hes not chicken man

5 years time come back to me


Will done will you still have the same contact number

laceys lane
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10 Jun 2019 8:50AM
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Macaha said..



laceys lane said..
No hes not chicken man

5 years time come back to me





Will done will you still have the same contact number



Even those misfits mid length boys are saying when they have aussie made or shaped now.

onefin
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10 Jun 2019 8:02PM
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..




laceys lane said..
No hes not chicken man

5 years time come back to me






Will done will you still have the same contact number




Even those misfits mid length boys are saying when they have aussie made or shaped now.



Boutique misfit midlength hipsters if you don't mind



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