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Ted the Kiwi
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26 Jun 2012 12:19pm
I have owned these shares 3 times in the past but not for a long while thank-goodness!!!! I looked at buying some a few sessions back as they dipped under $2 but held off - relief! ! ! ! I thought that they were reasonable value then having had a $3.30 offer not so long ago. I may not be able to hold myself back though now they are down at this level.


Sharks circle as Merchant in deep water
June 26, 2012

IT SEEMS the only solution for Billabong is a white knight trade buyer that can rescue it from the bourse and re-energise its iconic surfwear and streetwear business outside the public gaze.

The company, which traded at $17 five years ago, slumped below $1 yesterday as it returned to the ASX after a shock $225 million capital raising.

For its founder, major shareholder and director, Gordon Merchant, it has been a wild ride and his wealth has tumbled from $630 million five years ago to less than $40 million today.

While all retail stocks have taken a pounding in the past two years, Billabong's fall from grace has been worse than most. It is a glaring example of a company whose credibility is so badly damaged and staff morale so low that it seems the best solution is a new owner who can spend the time and expertise to rebuild it.

The situation hasn't been helped by Merchant's absence. Not only didn't he take up his full allocation in the capital raising, despite rejecting a private equity offer at $3.30 back in February, he didn't face his investors to explain why not. Instead, he is believed to be taking time out at his beach house in Jefferys Bay, South Africa.

The falling share price comes as at least two industry players and some private equity operators are believed to be considering taking a strategic holding or making a full takeover bid for Billabong.

Speculation is rife that within the next two to four weeks private equity and a trade buyer will emerge. Names being touted include TPG, KKR and Archer, but the list could be far greater given this company still has some strong brands and has just lost its way.

Trade buyers with an interest are believed to include Nike and French luxury group PPR, which bought Volcom Inc, the Costa Mesa surf-and-skate brand, last year for $US607.5 million. A wealthy family company is also believed to be hunkered down looking closely at retail companies, including Billabong.

It isn't the first time private equity has considered a tilt at Billabong. TPG made an offer at $3.30 a share in February but Merchant used his stake to block the advances. The difference this time around is Merchant won't be in a position of strength to knock back an offer.

This follows a shock announcement by the company last week that it would have to raise $225 million in fresh equity at $1.02 a share. The falling share price, including a profit downgrade, has enraged investors to the point where a few are contemplating a class action against the company.

Troubles at Billabong can be attributed to an ill-judged strategy, a series of profit downgrades, liquidity and debt fears, a dysfunctional board and now a capital raising.

Not surprisingly, staff morale is dangerously low. It wasn't helped when the board decided to appoint a new chief executive, Launa Inman, last month. At the time of her appointment there was scepticism in the investment community that she had the right skill set to fix the company's mess. An increasing number of staff are now questioning her appointment as she comes to grips with the different brands, including ascribing the right name to the right brand.

Sources close to the company said Merchant has gone away to his beach home for three weeks to digest the realisation that a deal is inevitable. He is believed to have not been present at last week's board meeting for the capital raising decision. His absence, along with a string of other factors, has left staff gutted.

One source said Merchant's wealth was tied up in Billabong and despite the decimation of his wealth, he was reluctant to sell out. It is believed that if a private equity operator or trade buyer offered him a role and a stake in any takeover, he would back it. It comes as a number of shareholders, including Billabong's second-largest shareholder, Perennial Value, has suggested he resign from the board.

The key topic among staff is who will pounce first, private equity or a trade buyer. The overwhelming attitude is that a private equity owner would enable some existing staff to jockey for positions, while a strategic partner or trade buyer would install their own team. For Inman, who has been in the job a month, depending on what transpires, she could end up being one of the shortest reigning chief executives in listed company history.

Investors are not surprised chairman Ted Kunkel will step down between now and the next annual meeting given he signed off on the acquisition of hundreds of retail stores that are now being closed, as well as the sale of a 51.5 per cent stake in one of the company's best assets, accessories brand Nixon.

However, when put into context of what has gone on in the past six months it is no surprise. For starters, it has removed a chief executive, had a profit downgrade, issued an equity raising and knocked back a private equity offer at what was more than triple the present share price.

The company and Merchant have a lot of soul searching to do between now and a takeover but one thing is certain - Billabong will never be the same again.

Read more: www.smh.com.au/business/sharks-circle-as-merchant-in-deep-water-20120625-20ynz.html
smicko
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26 Jun 2012 10:25am
Yeah the poor bugger, imagine being down to your last 40mil.
SP
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26 Jun 2012 10:30am
I Dont like to invest in retail......

Myer?
Kathmandu?
DJs

All flops, consumer spending down and people aren't as brand attached to ripaquikbong anymore, losing market share to Nike etc. can't see where there new matkets are ow where an increase in sales will come from.

so I think more tough times ahead... But that doesn't mean there isn't a quick earn there.. Speculating on retail is ok


doggie
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26 Jun 2012 10:36am
A few pros will be looking for a new sponno I would think
SP
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26 Jun 2012 10:44am
^^^^ and got smashed if they took stock instead of cash..

I'd guess for sure stock deals make up part of some of the top guys contracts.
weiry
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26 Jun 2012 12:46pm
i cant see how BBong isn't rolling in $$$$$$$ they get there gear made in 3rd world countries and sell it to ozzie's for SH!Tloads, 1 pair of jeans $130,00 and 1 Tshirt $70.00 Pffffff
Simondo
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26 Jun 2012 12:47pm
If I was Gordo, I would still be pretty happy to walk away from it all with circa $50M in the pocket.

And if I was Gordo, that's probably what I would do. $50M, or $500M... It will be more than enough for him to see his days out!!

With that sort of coin, I would be doing as many surf trips as possible before I got too old for it all.

If you were a pro, sponsored by Billabong, you would be crazy not to have a scout around for a comparative offer... I'd be personally ringing up Quiky, and Rip Curl, and asking what they would be prepared to put on the table !!
CMC
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26 Jun 2012 12:50pm
I am no share market investor but here is what I know:

During the GFC Quiksilver dropped to .97c on the NY stock exchange. They re financed and are now trading at over $5. If you dropped $2K at the low you'd have $10K now.

Billabong makes an announcement that they will only make 90 million profit this year and the share price falls to these lows. That's profit, not loss. Even after repaying debts etc.

If I had some spare coin I'd drop it at this price. Even if it drops again a big guy will look to take over. Maybe TPG again, if that happens the share price will blow up even short term. Buy $10K now and watch it head to $30K in months.

Way better odds than horses or lotto. I'd think it's a good buy.
Ted the Kiwi
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26 Jun 2012 12:54pm
SP said...

I Dont like to invest in retail......

Myer?
Kathmandu?
DJs

All flops, consumer spending down and people aren't as brand attached to ripaquikbong anymore, losing market share to Nike etc. can't see where there new matkets are ow where an increase in sales will come from.

so I think more tough times ahead... But that doesn't mean there isn't a quick earn there.. Speculating on retail is ok





I hate retail stocks as well - so yes it would be purely speculative. Looking for a quick take on the upside thats all. I am pricing some opts as we speak to see what I can get them for.

as for your other comment

"I'd guess for sure stock deals make up part of some of the top guys contracts."

I was lead to beleive that when the stock was first isssued and was marching north at a rather fast rate from $2 to $17 lots of the boys were given stock and they were laughing, pro's on other teams were not happy that the Bong boys were getting such a leg up on them and that prompted other teams to change the way things were done.

I imagine that there are more than a few of those boys have seen a vast array of their wealth wipped out in recent times.




CMC
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26 Jun 2012 12:56pm
By the way, Gordo has investments in so many other companies now even if Billabong went to the dogs he'd still be richer than most will dream.

Maybe look up out the back investments and see what he's up to.

He was just on the news last week with signing a deal with some new plastics company with an exclusive deal with Coles or something. Plantic it's called.
Simondo
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26 Jun 2012 12:56pm
Quiksilver is listed on the New York stock exchange. They have been hammered too.

Recent Historic Price Guide;
1990 - 1995 - trading around $0.50 to $1.50
95 to 2000 - trending up, mainly between $2.50 and $6.50
2000 to 2005 - trending up, from $5 to $15, with a September 11, 2001 dip.
2005 to pre GFC - steady around $13-$15
GFC and post GFC - HAMMERED !! Fell to $2, bounced back to $5, and now back close $2.

So not that much different to Billabong actually. Kelly Slater's net value would have also taken a hammering !!

(note - the stock went through at least 1 share double up - meaning they halved the share price, doubled the shares - so prices are relative to taday).



finance.yahoo.com/chart/ZQK?ltr=1;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

Simondo
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26 Jun 2012 12:58pm
Rip Curl is still a private company. Owners have wanted to sell out, but haven't sold out yet.

As a private company, your financial records aren't like laundry hanging out on the clothes line for all to see !!
Simondo
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26 Jun 2012 1:07pm
CMC said...

By the way, Gordo has investments in so many other companies now even if Billabong went to the dogs he'd still be richer than most will dream.

Maybe look up out the back investments and see what he's up to.

He was just on the news last week with signing a deal with some new plastics company with an exclusive deal with Coles or something. Plantic it's called.


Yep, and I would just walk away... cash in... (or cash out!?).

I would do a Bunker Sprekels! Or at least go easy on the coke, but just do some surf trips, broken up with other trips, like the Dakar Rally, Mountain Climbing in Tibet and Nepal, Grand Prix watching in Monte Carlo, getting a few mates together, and drive a few Jeeps from Shanghai and just follow the Yangtze upstream to Tibet... Fly into LA, buy and Jeep, and go and drive around America.... Lounge around between my Beach Houses at Bells & Byron...

Or you could sit in a board room, talking to bunch of other w@nkers, all trying to improve their finances...
Simondo
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26 Jun 2012 1:18pm
If I had that sort of coin, I would host a Seabreeze Boat Trip to The Maldives with you guys. The only price you guys would pay is "occasionally giving up a Primo Set Wave for me"... but mostly the hope would be a Wave Feast for Everyone anyway!
doggie
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26 Jun 2012 11:20am
Simondo said...


If you were a pro, sponsored by Billabong, you would be crazy not to have a scout around for a comparative offer... I'd be personally ringing up Quiky, and Rip Curl, and asking what they would be prepared to put on the table !!


Why wouldnt they look outside of the box as in Red Bull, Coke, 3(Three), Hyundai etc

RedBull can sponsor a F1 team, a pro surfer should be cheaper and they have a couple allready.

Hyundai or Toyota would be awesome as well, both could promote the cars with the surfers etc!!
CMC
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26 Jun 2012 1:52pm
doggie said...

Simondo said...


If you were a pro, sponsored by Billabong, you would be crazy not to have a scout around for a comparative offer... I'd be personally ringing up Quiky, and Rip Curl, and asking what they would be prepared to put on the table !!


Why wouldnt they look outside of the box as in Red Bull, Coke, 3(Three), Hyundai etc

RedBull can sponsor a F1 team, a pro surfer should be cheaper and they have a couple allready.

Hyundai or Toyota would be awesome as well, both could promote the cars with the surfers etc!!


Ford already does it with Mick Fanning and sponsoring Bells.
62mac
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26 Jun 2012 11:57am
doggie said...

A few pros will be looking for a new sponno I would think


I wonder how many shares have been offered to Parko along the way as a top up from payments.
Ted the Kiwi
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26 Jun 2012 2:37pm
Its pretty tricky out there - the leveraged players have taken Billabong off the table now and the only opts of any vaule are some Dec2029, 70c strike, 77 Barriers at 29c but no traded offer yet. So its hard to determine what you might have to pay for them. A shame that no one is offereing any leverage at the minute. Might just have to be a small play and stick them in the bottom draw.



stuk
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26 Jun 2012 4:04pm
I was reading somewhere else that Gordo has done the bolt to his beach house at Jeffreys Bay. I mean why not.
doggie
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26 Jun 2012 2:07pm
stuk said...

I was reading somewhere else that Gordo has done the bolt to his beach house at Jeffreys Bay. I mean why not.


Swell must be up
CMC
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26 Jun 2012 4:10pm
doggie said...

stuk said...

I was reading somewhere else that Gordo has done the bolt to his beach house at Jeffreys Bay. I mean why not.


Swell must be up


Ted the Kiwi
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26 Jun 2012 4:20pm
doggie said...

stuk said...

I was reading somewhere else that Gordo has done the bolt to his beach house at Jeffreys Bay. I mean why not.


Swell must be up


Looks like if you run for the airport now you will probably catch some of it as well

magicseaweed.com/Jeffreys-Bay-J-Bay-Surf-Report/88/
doggie
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26 Jun 2012 2:39pm
CMC said...

doggie said...

stuk said...

I was reading somewhere else that Gordo has done the bolt to his beach house at Jeffreys Bay. I mean why not.


Swell must be up





Dazzler75
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26 Jun 2012 5:21pm
doggie said...

stuk said...

I was reading somewhere else that Gordo has done the bolt to his beach house at Jeffreys Bay. I mean why not.


Swell must be up



Nothing happening on the Goldy & assume Anga would be the same today
laceys lane
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26 Jun 2012 6:27pm
i don't think surf wear will ever be that big again. and the price they as for is robbery.

anyone who pays $250 for board shorts is an idiot
Daneli
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26 Jun 2012 6:43pm
laceys lane said...

i don't think surf wear will ever be that big again. and the price they as for is robbery.

anyone who pays $250 for board shorts is an idiot



Don't you need them to go over your wettie when you are 666ing ?
laceys lane
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26 Jun 2012 6:50pm
Daneli said...

laceys lane said...

i don't think surf wear will ever be that big again. and the price they as for is robbery.

anyone who pays $250 for board shorts is an idiot



Don't you need them to go over your wettie when you are 666ing ?


not in qld fella
Ted the Kiwi
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29 Jun 2012 4:54pm
SP said...

I Dont like to invest in retail......

so I think more tough times ahead... But that doesn't mean there isn't a quick earn there.. Speculating on retail is ok


Seems the retailers have had a nice run today on the back of a UK offer for DJ's. Come on Bong - touchéd 1:09 today which is a 9% earn in under a week. Joy!!!!
SP
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29 Jun 2012 2:57pm
Ha ha DJ s after I bagged them....


Did you buy any Bong stock, they have come back alright, nice little earn for the week

Ted the Kiwi
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29 Jun 2012 4:59pm
SP said...

Ha ha DJ s after I bagged them....


they deserved a good bagging

not point trying to pick the bottom on these puppies too hard - I just had a lash as I thought that they are a prime takeover target now at these levels.


SP
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29 Jun 2012 3:09pm
Yeah, there only problem is they have to much debt and few liquidity issue. But as you said prime target for a takeover. Even there future earning projections are pretty good.


I cracked up when I saw the DJs announcement.
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