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Created by AndyrooMac 1 month ago, 17 Aug 2018
AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:16AM
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The Christenson thread has turned into a pretty fun convo about midlengths in general so I thought it might be cool to start a new thread as generally a lot of longboarders have a mid in the quiver for when it gets a bit bigger.

I reckon mids are super interesting as they take on the broadest range of design characteristics depending on where your coming from and how you are wanting to surf... They take elements of longboards, logs and gliders but also fish and short boards...

So use this space to share what your riding, to talk about design, shapers and share some cool midlength clips.

Here's a pretty siiiiiiick place to start...

Tassiedevel
TAS, 1918 posts
17 Aug 2018 1:45PM
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Here's my mid length 7 foot 1971 model Fresh Juice shaped by Terry Horton








chrispthekiwi
69 posts
17 Aug 2018 12:33PM
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Here are mine... 7'0 Roger Hall and a 7'11 Thomas. I'd like to add a 6'8 to the quiver sometime soon







AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
17 Aug 2018 3:19PM
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Tassiedevel said..
Here's my mid length 7 foot 1971 model Fresh Juice shaped by Terry Horton









That's a super nice old board, looks like it would be real fast down the line...

AndyrooMac
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17 Aug 2018 3:23PM
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www.instagram.com/p/Bmj2MNDhSBD/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lpvljsk4ej1h

How good does the Lovelace V-Bowls go in the wave pool. Very keen to add one of these in the 8'range to the quiver

AndyrooMac
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17 Aug 2018 3:38PM
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Here are mine... 7'0 Roger Hall and a 7'11 Thomas. I'd like to add a 6'8 to the quiver sometime soon








Roger Hall is such an amazing shaper, his story on the Surf Splendour podcast is really interesting. I love that he does every part of the process himself, shaping/sanding/glassing etc. I love the idea of his noserider logs. The Thomas is a Thomas Bexton?

onefin
28 posts
17 Aug 2018 3:51PM
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We have our own room! Excellent,

beautiful boards fellas, and SP that is the best looking bonzer egg I have ever seen! I love the way it has the pulled in nose and the Ewing.... oh my!

i looked at the eggs at onboard in byron but was put off by the nose and thickness (I was on Gatos 100% of the time tho) then I ordered a "thick" Lizzy which is as the name suggests. A bonzer egg like SP's is in my future.......

Tassiedevel
TAS, 1918 posts
17 Aug 2018 6:58PM
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AndyrooMac said..

Tassiedevel said..
Here's my mid length 7 foot 1971 model Fresh Juice shaped by Terry Horton






That's a super nice old board, looks like it would be real fast down the line...


Picked it up about a year ago down your way ( dodges ferry ) , it had been sitting under a house there for about 30 years . Had some really impressive holes in it - thinking it may have been a wall hanger at some stage - literally bolted to the wall ( why would you do that )and had the most bodgie leash plug I have ever seen . Watertight now - probably a bit too big for me - prefer Boards short and fat these days - but it gives me something different to play with .

Spark
WA, 179 posts
17 Aug 2018 5:09PM
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Well since you brought it up.....

Been looking to pull the trigger on a 7 foot 2+1 egg for ages!!!!

ive come to this...

Creative Army Huevo
DT Howard Special Mini
Christenson flat track (with sides)
Thomas (doesn't have a model on his website but some sweet ones on his Insta)
Jye Byrnes Crossbreed

How do ya choose? I want them all.

My thinking is I want one for decent surf around the shoulder-head and a half size. The vid of Devon in the OP is what it's all about, get in early and carve away.

what you boys reckon?

Chrispthekiwi, that Thomas looks unreal

SP
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17 Aug 2018 5:21PM
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Spark said..
Well since you brought it up.....

Been looking to pull the trigger on a 7 foot 2+1 egg for ages!!!!

ive come to this...

Creative Army Huevo
DT Howard Special Mini
Christenson flat track (with sides)
Thomas (doesn't have a model on his website but some sweet ones on his Insta)
Jye Byrnes Crossbreed

How do ya choose? I want them all.

My thinking is I want one for decent surf around the shoulder-head and a half size. The vid of Devon in the OP is what it's all about, get in early and carve away.

what you boys reckon?

Chrispthekiwi, that Thomas looks unreal


I currently have 2 Christenson, a Campbell brothers Bonzer and had heaps of others over the years, Taks, Mct, beau young and numerous others. but really want a cross breed they are as good as any. I nearly bought one before I got the last christenson but had lusted after a c bucket for 15 years so couldn't pass up the opportunity for a custom one.

SP
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17 Aug 2018 5:24PM
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Tassiedevel said..

AndyrooMac said..


Tassiedevel said..
Here's my mid length 7 foot 1971 model Fresh Juice shaped by Terry Horton







That's a super nice old board, looks like it would be real fast down the line...



Picked it up about a year ago down your way ( dodges ferry ) , it had been sitting under a house there for about 30 years . Had some really impressive holes in it - thinking it may have been a wall hanger at some stage - literally bolted to the wall ( why would you do that )and had the most bodgie leash plug I have ever seen . Watertight now - probably a bit too big for me - prefer Boards short and fat these days - but it gives me something different to play with .


What are you riding these days? Fishes? Love a good fish, nearly as good as a mid length.

onefin
28 posts
17 Aug 2018 5:45PM
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SP said..

Spark said..
Well since you brought it up.....

Been looking to pull the trigger on a 7 foot 2+1 egg for ages!!!!

ive come to this...

Creative Army Huevo
DT Howard Special Mini
Christenson flat track (with sides)
Thomas (doesn't have a model on his website but some sweet ones on his Insta)
Jye Byrnes Crossbreed

How do ya choose? I want them all.

My thinking is I want one for decent surf around the shoulder-head and a half size. The vid of Devon in the OP is what it's all about, get in early and carve away.

what you boys reckon?

Chrispthekiwi, that Thomas looks unreal



I currently have 2 Christenson, a Campbell brothers Bonzer and had heaps of others over the years, Taks, Mct, beau young and numerous others. but really want a cross breed they are as good as any. I nearly bought one before I got the last christenson but had lusted after a c bucket for 15 years so couldn't pass up the opportunity for a custom one.


Yes, I like the look of the crossbreed... how is your cbucket sp?

i have liked the look of the Howard mini for a while but the wider nose put me off, anyone ridden one?

onefin
28 posts
17 Aug 2018 6:01PM
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AndyrooMac said..
The Christenson thread has turned into a pretty fun convo about midlengths in general so I thought it might be cool to start a new thread as generally a lot of longboarders have a mid in the quiver for when it gets a bit bigger.

I reckon mids are super interesting as they take on the broadest range of design characteristics depending on where your coming from and how you are wanting to surf... They take elements of longboards, logs and gliders but also fish and short boards...

So use this space to share what your riding, to talk about design, shapers and share some cool midlength clips.

Here's a pretty siiiiiiick place to start...



Thanks Andy, this is the only way to start.....in my mind, this is how I surf and I simply ignore reality

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:16PM
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Spark said..
Well since you brought it up.....

Been looking to pull the trigger on a 7 foot 2+1 egg for ages!!!!

ive come to this...

Creative Army Huevo
DT Howard Special Mini
Christenson flat track (with sides)
Thomas (doesn't have a model on his website but some sweet ones on his Insta)
Jye Byrnes Crossbreed

How do ya choose? I want them all.

My thinking is I want one for decent surf around the shoulder-head and a half size. The vid of Devon in the OP is what it's all about, get in early and carve away.

what you boys reckon?

Chrispthekiwi, that Thomas looks unreal


I reckon the Bonzer Egg's look unreal and I do love the idea of the Tak Howard model, beautiful boards and the ride reports are really positive. I LOVED my Christenson FT, the glide and speed of that board was unreal but i did swap it out for the Ryan Lovelace ThickLizzy and I do think for me its the better board. The slight issue I had with the FT was the nose catching on steeper stuff because its SO flat, the Lizzy has a bit more nose rocker and its takes off clean in anything so far, you lose a bit on the wave catching side but gain in its ability to drop into steeper stuff...

And... FYI... the FT doesn't need side bites, the rails through the tail are really precise and fine, you need to fin it small and let the tail do the rest.

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:20PM
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Tassiedevel said..



AndyrooMac said..




Tassiedevel said..
Here's my mid length 7 foot 1971 model Fresh Juice shaped by Terry Horton









That's a super nice old board, looks like it would be real fast down the line...





Picked it up about a year ago down your way ( dodges ferry ) , it had been sitting under a house there for about 30 years . Had some really impressive holes in it - thinking it may have been a wall hanger at some stage - literally bolted to the wall ( why would you do that )and had the most bodgie leash plug I have ever seen . Watertight now - probably a bit too big for me - prefer Boards short and fat these days - but it gives me something different to play with .




What are you riding these days? Fishes? Love a good fish, nearly as good as a mid length.



Your right about the "nearly as good" bit dude... The Christenson fish goes unreal, really glad I brought it but it definitely plays 2nd fiddle to Lizzy... the turning on the Lizzy is just so sweet and you only get that from a nice pintail, those drawn out lines right. The fish is great though, i find i surf it more in the small stuff where its not set up for noseriding or i'm too lazy with the log... Just flies and makes real small stuff super fun.

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:22PM
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onefin said..

SP said..


Spark said..
Well since you brought it up.....

Been looking to pull the trigger on a 7 foot 2+1 egg for ages!!!!

ive come to this...

Creative Army Huevo
DT Howard Special Mini
Christenson flat track (with sides)
Thomas (doesn't have a model on his website but some sweet ones on his Insta)
Jye Byrnes Crossbreed

How do ya choose? I want them all.

My thinking is I want one for decent surf around the shoulder-head and a half size. The vid of Devon in the OP is what it's all about, get in early and carve away.

what you boys reckon?

Chrispthekiwi, that Thomas looks unreal




I currently have 2 Christenson, a Campbell brothers Bonzer and had heaps of others over the years, Taks, Mct, beau young and numerous others. but really want a cross breed they are as good as any. I nearly bought one before I got the last christenson but had lusted after a c bucket for 15 years so couldn't pass up the opportunity for a custom one.



Yes, I like the look of the crossbreed... how is your cbucket sp?

i have liked the look of the Howard mini for a while but the wider nose put me off, anyone ridden one?


Tux has one and loves it... There's also another dude down here who surfed one on loan up the coast and is busting to buy one... he's currently riding a surfboard whorehouse thingy until he can afford one...

saltyheaven
NSW, 328 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:26PM
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Nice one Andy! What a great idea. And what a prime video to kick off with, I think we've all drooled over that clip more than a few times. (Here's where I admit to having watched it in slow motion and on repeat and then advancing frame by frame through the critical moments....)

A group of people enthusiastically discussing midlengths ! Who would ever have thought. Let me explain by giving a brief history of me and the boards I choose to ride...

I first learnt as a grom on a 5'8 triple flyer Hot Buttered single. I had no idea, that's just what I got cheap and it seemed to do the job. From there a 7 foot something pintail single came along and was my only board for a few years, it was big and thick and I loved it.
My next board was a thruster. The thruster was still a pretty new thing, this one was a present from my parents, custom made, new no less! I remember the spray job but don't remember surfing it. It was the only thruster I ever owned. It certainly didn't last long because I started making my own boards right about then too. There were a couple of woeful first attempts (beautiful channels rendered flat with a very resin rich layup!) ....

....And then shortly after, my first midlength single fin. This was the mid eighties. I don't remember where the inspiration came from, but I must have seen similar things somewhere. I then rode homemade midlength singles and nothing else until I started experimenting with little sidefins just a few years ago.

There were some dark dark days in the 80's and 90's that's for sure. Trying to get my share of waves in a busy lineup riding a 7'2 single fin, made of epoxy and painted with house paint no less! I had more that a few 'altercations'.

So from that to a few people paddling up to me over the last couple of years, showing me their board and saying that they were inspired to try a midlength by watching me surf, and now a thread of like minded people sharing ideas! It's a fine time to be surfing. despite the ever increasing crowds.

Here's a photo of one of the boards I rode through that dark era, it's 7'2 x not very wide. Made in the early 90's or so. There just wasn't the wealth of comparative material that there is today so I was just trying things out. I remember it had quite a lot of rocker and was great in big surf. Kind of obvious looking at it now but not so much when I made it.






saltyheaven
NSW, 328 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:42PM
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Iconic midlength image... I can stare at this for hours.


Tassiedevel
TAS, 1918 posts
17 Aug 2018 10:07PM
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SP said..

Tassiedevel said..


AndyrooMac said..



Tassiedevel said..
Here's my mid length 7 foot 1971 model Fresh Juice shaped by Terry Horton








That's a super nice old board, looks like it would be real fast down the line...




Picked it up about a year ago down your way ( dodges ferry ) , it had been sitting under a house there for about 30 years . Had some really impressive holes in it - thinking it may have been a wall hanger at some stage - literally bolted to the wall ( why would you do that )and had the most bodgie leash plug I have ever seen . Watertight now - probably a bit too big for me - prefer Boards short and fat these days - but it gives me something different to play with .



What are you riding these days? Fishes? Love a good fish, nearly as good as a mid length.


Have about 14 boards at the moment - probably time to sell a few but last few months have been primarily surfing 2 old friar tuck kneeboards one a single fin John Ware design the other a twin fin Craig McDonald - never surfed them before but they are so much fun reckon I am hooked .

onefin
28 posts
17 Aug 2018 9:17PM
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Thanks for sharing Your history and boards Salty, you have talent. Going back to the other thread, I am sure you know this, the lift & consequent acceleration comes from the bottom contours working with the cant of the bonzer sides.
However, I am of the opinion, bonzer sides spice up any 2+1 set up.... I d use them in a Howard mini for example but that's me, old mate Devon Howard would disagree I am sure!

Let us know how your bonzer set up from the other thread works out

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
18 Aug 2018 6:04AM
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onefin said..
Thanks for sharing Your history and boards Salty, you have talent. Going back to the other thread, I am sure you know this, the lift & consequent acceleration comes from the bottom contours working with the cant of the bonzer sides.
However, I am of the opinion, bonzer sides spice up any 2+1 set up.... I d use them in a Howard mini for example but that's me, old mate Devon Howard would disagree I am sure!

Let us know how your bonzer set up from the other thread works out



Devon actually loves the Widowmaker configuration... This is well worth a listen as it discusses fin set up, implications and benefits. Dave is a super interesting and really smart dude...

surfsplendorpodcast.com/195-wax-on-dave-parmenter/

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
18 Aug 2018 7:18AM
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saltyheaven said..
Nice one Andy! What a great idea. And what a prime video to kick off with, I think we've all drooled over that clip more than a few times. (Here's where I admit to having watched it in slow motion and on repeat and then advancing frame by frame through the critical moments....)

A group of people enthusiastically discussing midlengths ! Who would ever have thought. Let me explain by giving a brief history of me and the boards I choose to ride...

I first learnt as a grom on a 5'8 triple flyer Hot Buttered single. I had no idea, that's just what I got cheap and it seemed to do the job. From there a 7 foot something pintail single came along and was my only board for a few years, it was big and thick and I loved it.
My next board was a thruster. The thruster was still a pretty new thing, this one was a present from my parents, custom made, new no less! I remember the spray job but don't remember surfing it. It was the only thruster I ever owned. It certainly didn't last long because I started making my own boards right about then too. There were a couple of woeful first attempts (beautiful channels rendered flat with a very resin rich layup!) ....

....And then shortly after, my first midlength single fin. This was the mid eighties. I don't remember where the inspiration came from, but I must have seen similar things somewhere. I then rode homemade midlength singles and nothing else until I started experimenting with little sidefins just a few years ago.

There were some dark dark days in the 80's and 90's that's for sure. Trying to get my share of waves in a busy lineup riding a 7'2 single fin, made of epoxy and painted with house paint no less! I had more that a few 'altercations'.

So from that to a few people paddling up to me over the last couple of years, showing me their board and saying that they were inspired to try a midlength by watching me surf, and now a thread of like minded people sharing ideas! It's a fine time to be surfing. despite the ever increasing crowds.

Here's a photo of one of the boards I rode through that dark era, it's 7'2 x not very wide. Made in the early 90's or so. There just wasn't the wealth of comparative material that there is today so I was just trying things out. I remember it had quite a lot of rocker and was great in big surf. Kind of obvious looking at it now but not so much when I made it.







Thats a super cool story dude, thanks for sharing... I'm super envious you can shape your own stuff and love those egg's you shared in the other thread. I'm looking to start doing some shaping myself pretty soon but I need a new shed as mine is not practical atm. There's a couple of old legends down here that shape and surf their own boards and we talk sh1t all the time, one of them is the dude from "the king of neptunes" which is a local tassie surf flic.

onefin
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18 Aug 2018 5:54AM
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onefin said..
Thanks for sharing Your history and boards Salty, you have talent. Going back to the other thread, I am sure you know this, the lift & consequent acceleration comes from the bottom contours working with the cant of the bonzer sides.
However, I am of the opinion, bonzer sides spice up any 2+1 set up.... I d use them in a Howard mini for example but that's me, old mate Devon Howard would disagree I am sure!

Let us know how your bonzer set up from the other thread works out




Devon actually loves the Widowmaker configuration... This is well worth a listen as it discusses fin set up, implications and benefits. Dave is a super interesting and really smart dude...

surfsplendorpodcast.com/195-wax-on-dave-parmenter/


Cool thanks Andy, Dave parmenter is a legend, I d love to get my hands on one of his single fins. Yes Devon is a 2+1 advocate but has not yet (as far as I am aware) ventured into the bonzer realm

onefin
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18 Aug 2018 5:54AM
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AndyrooMac said..

onefin said..
Thanks for sharing Your history and boards Salty, you have talent. Going back to the other thread, I am sure you know this, the lift & consequent acceleration comes from the bottom contours working with the cant of the bonzer sides.
However, I am of the opinion, bonzer sides spice up any 2+1 set up.... I d use them in a Howard mini for example but that's me, old mate Devon Howard would disagree I am sure!

Let us know how your bonzer set up from the other thread works out




Devon actually loves the Widowmaker configuration... This is well worth a listen as it discusses fin set up, implications and benefits. Dave is a super interesting and really smart dude...

surfsplendorpodcast.com/195-wax-on-dave-parmenter/


Cool thanks Andy, Dave parmenter is a legend, I d love to get my hands on one of his single fins. Yes Devon is a 2+1 advocate but has not yet (as far as I am aware) ventured into the bonzer realm

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
18 Aug 2018 9:29AM
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onefin said..

AndyrooMac said..


onefin said..
Thanks for sharing Your history and boards Salty, you have talent. Going back to the other thread, I am sure you know this, the lift & consequent acceleration comes from the bottom contours working with the cant of the bonzer sides.
However, I am of the opinion, bonzer sides spice up any 2+1 set up.... I d use them in a Howard mini for example but that's me, old mate Devon Howard would disagree I am sure!

Let us know how your bonzer set up from the other thread works out





Devon actually loves the Widowmaker configuration... This is well worth a listen as it discusses fin set up, implications and benefits. Dave is a super interesting and really smart dude...

surfsplendorpodcast.com/195-wax-on-dave-parmenter/



Cool thanks Andy, Dave parmenter is a legend, I d love to get my hands on one of his single fins. Yes Devon is a 2+1 advocate but has not yet (as far as I am aware) ventured into the bonzer realm


Well the bonzer is very similar to the widow maker, especially when you listen to the principles at play... I think SP was getting Sub Vector from DP???

onefin
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18 Aug 2018 10:32AM
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AndyrooMac said..

onefin said..


AndyrooMac said..



onefin said..
Thanks for sharing Your history and boards Salty, you have talent. Going back to the other thread, I am sure you know this, the lift & consequent acceleration comes from the bottom contours working with the cant of the bonzer sides.
However, I am of the opinion, bonzer sides spice up any 2+1 set up.... I d use them in a Howard mini for example but that's me, old mate Devon Howard would disagree I am sure!

Let us know how your bonzer set up from the other thread works out






Devon actually loves the Widowmaker configuration... This is well worth a listen as it discusses fin set up, implications and benefits. Dave is a super interesting and really smart dude...

surfsplendorpodcast.com/195-wax-on-dave-parmenter/




Cool thanks Andy, Dave parmenter is a legend, I d love to get my hands on one of his single fins. Yes Devon is a 2+1 advocate but has not yet (as far as I am aware) ventured into the bonzer realm



Well the bonzer is very similar to the widow maker, especially when you listen to the principles at play... I think SP was getting Sub Vector from DP???


Yes indeed, I have had a couple of 2+1's where I have changed the side fins and added the semi bonzer keels and IMO even though the bottom contours were not deep enough (when compared to Malcolm's) the performance improved. I find the "space time continuum" similiar but not the same. That doesn't mean it's better, it's my personal taste, as are rolled bottom single fins in clean lined up conditions.

i like the Lizzy because it straddles somewhere between the two...... I think I could def find an excuse to squeeze a 5 fin egg like SP's into my quiver tho!!!

onefin
28 posts
18 Aug 2018 10:37AM
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I find this very attractive as well......

AndyrooMac
TAS, 1202 posts
19 Aug 2018 9:19AM
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Have never surfed a twinzer but they do look interesting, seems they use that fin layout a bit for mini gliders and Neil Purchase makes a bunch of them for Indo barrel riding...

speaking of... whilke its cold and flat in Tas my buddy is scoring OH Canngu and relatively uncrowded... in boarding...

AndyrooMac
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19 Aug 2018 9:23AM
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wavemaniac
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19 Aug 2018 8:29PM
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Outerstanding!

McHenry
SA, 1495 posts
20 Aug 2018 1:45PM
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Great 8' Midlength! Also for sale, just saying






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