sailquik said...

The point I was trying to make was that these companies need to become more responsible and aware of the impact they are having on the environment.

Wrong! Companies have no morals. They have profit and loss.
Consumers have morals. (well some... )

Companies sell you what you want. You want environmentally unfriendly, thats what they sell you. You want to pay the cost of environmentally friendly, they will make it and sell it to you.
Your choice!

Not entirely true... there are a good number of companies especially in the tech world that have very serious environmental and social contions because the people that run those companies believe in those values.

You won't find too many here in Australia but there are plenty in the US and Europe. Nokia being one of them.

What amazes me is the general reaction I get from people when I bring up this topic. The usual reaction is that problem is elsewhere but not here... it's exactly that attitude that makes me wonder if all that effort in trying to reduce carbon emissions would be better spent in figuring out how to live in a world that has had a dramatic climate change.

Stheshegler, you managed to make this thread boring really fast. It started off as an interesting conversation about construction and you turned it into politics and landfill. Are you one of those people that corners people at parties and then bores the crap out of them with that sort of stuff?

hoop said...

Stheshegler, you managed to make this thread boring really fast. It started off as an interesting conversation about construction and you turned it into politics and landfill. Are you one of those people that corners people at parties and then bores the crap out of them with that sort of stuff?

indeed... you caught me out...

now let's all go back to talking about how gay kite boarders are, bitch about those windsurf boards being overpriced and pretend the world is a happy place (if it wasn't for those kite boarders).

Stehsegler over and out

This is my effort to make a hollow board that is a little bit green. Its a little bit heavier than a carbon board but for less $300, it will do me for several years. And without any foam inside it should be a bit more environmentally friendly when it eventually is time to chuck it out, except for the fibre glass it is wrapped in.

Glitch said...

This is my effort to make a hollow board that is a little bit green. Its a little bit heavier than a carbon board but for less $300, it will do me for several years. And without any foam inside it should be a bit more environmentally friendly when it eventually is time to chuck it out, except for the fibre glass it is wrapped in.

That's awesome Glitch. you tried that out at lysterfeild yet???

just like to thank all the windsurfers who have sent all thier bits to recycling depots rather than straight to fill
one sail that I recut for a landyacht finally died and the battens/batten pockets were cut off and re-recycled into the next sail, which went on to win competitions

Mr. No-one said...

gazza said...

stehsegler said...

dan berry said...

jUst for the record I've been going to tips (both landfill and recycling) once or twice a week for 18yrs aprox and you know how many board I've seen in there....... Zero. Things like boards have a habit of recycling themselves.

come on mate... it's like saying I can't see radiation therefore i can't be a problem. Given that there are at least 50,000 boards sold world wide every year not every board ends up under someones house or attic one day... a large portion of that stuff must go into landfill...

... the point I am trying to make is that currently not a single manufacturer is addressing the issue or recycling! I don't care if the rest of world is "more evil". Eventually those boards will end up in a trash compactor and landfill near you.

I've left 3 boards,my old sails and old booms on the verge when its chuck out time and every time they are picked up by a lucky punter within a day or so.

the only way it will end up in land fill is if you take it to the tip or put it in your wheelie bin.
Not something ive ever done in 20 years of sailing the gear just seems to get passed on to somebody else

Just check ebay bay to see the boards people have kept for years

anyway wasn't this thread about making a board and not about disposing of one

Great idea Gazza, last week I picked up a garden hose, a gate, a letterbox and a wheelie bin

Grant your not suppose to admit to doing the scab run your supposed to do it under the cover of darkness so your neighbors don't see

evlPanda said...

stehsegler said...

"try US$16,995 (excludes taxes and import duties)

www.bladerider.com.au/xseries/vrx.html"

Im talking just the hull, that price is including foils mast sail boom etc...

$17,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zacd said...
wouldn't about 30% of the cost go into the sail? Those yachting sails tend to be rather pricey when compared to a modern windsurfing sail.

About the same. 8m.
http://www.kasail.com/sailing/index.html

Try the pricing on the McConaghy Mach2 moth, last i heard was low 20k's

Rider5 said...

I do the scum run at night, but usually all the cars on the verge are locked so I have to use a brick to get in, wallets watches change sunnies cd's it's amazing what people chuck out.

Mike, next time your wife wants to take you road side shopping your just gunna have to say, "Hey Sarah, I'm not made of bricks!"
ps, hi Sarah