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Hellemam
Hellemam
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12 Sep 2006 12:28pm
Just wondering if people have happy and or bad stories about getting their kids into windsurfing?
I plan to get my two girls going this summer and hope that they will like it. It would be a good way to pass the time together.
I wonder though how some of you went with this scenario. Tips for success and what not to do.
I will start them off with proper windsurfing lessons. That should be a good start.

Cheers,

Michael
hardie
hardie
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12 Sep 2006 12:53pm
quote:
Originally posted by Hellemam

I wonder though how some of you went with this scenario. Tips for success and what not to do.
I will start them off with proper windsurfing lessons. That should be a good start.

Cheers,

Michael



3 stories, kid 1 when R was 10 picked it up in a couple of hours, loved it for about a year, then all of his mates got into surfing, left it for 10 years, is now thinking about it again.

kid 2, tried to teach him, he hated it.

kid 3, Always left it up to her, she is a 9 year old girl, she likes it, and asks us about learning and buying her equipment.

Tips: they have to feel it's fun for them, (has to be some mastery and pleasure in it for them) lot's of praise, and positive reinforcement, avoid criticising and negative statements, disappointment shows in your body language, so do be too invested in whether they get into it or not.
Crash Landing
Crash Landing
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12 Sep 2006 2:54pm
Ok, my thoughts are based on the fact that my dad and my brother had lessons together whilst i used to sail. i din't like the look of it at first but then 2 years later I changed my mind and my dad taught me.

Problems encountered:

1. Couldn't get my own wetsuit on (this was before the days of flexy neoprene) and as i learnt in the UK i always wore one. This drove my dad crazy.
2. I learnt on a mistral competition - no way i could lift it so my dad had to do the carrying of kit (sea often 1 km out)
3. Didn't have the strength the rig up the sail
4. Was as interested in watching what other people were doing as listening to my dad's instructions! (this hasn't changed)
5. My dad wanted to go out in strong winds, i wanted light winds - therfore we never saw my mum.

The worst thing about it was that my Dad picked up some bad injuries and lost interest in the sport. I had been bitten by the bug and couldn't get to the water as much as i would have liked (as i couldn't drive).

So lots of negative things really. However before my Dad got injured we spent every weekend together windsurfing, all our holidays were based around it and my mum even took it up as there was no other option! I was definately a lot closer to my Dad than my mates were to theirs.

If you have patience to do everything twice (as in rig up, carry kit for you and your daughters) then it is excellent!! I know my mate can't wait until his daughter is old enough to try it!

Send them of for lessons and then fully support them, they'll love it! And if they don't.....







Jman
Jman
VIC
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12 Sep 2006 6:28pm
Kids learn to windsurf very quickly, my 3 girls started when they turned 6, most important is correct equipment. You will need a dedicated kids setup. Don't let someone tell you to cut an old sail down. There's plenty of quality gear for kids in Aus now,we started with a Mini Bic it had a 1.7m sail, we also have a JP 114L Young Gun wich I highly recomend, it has a 2 fin setup the centre fin acts as a dagger board which is a must to get forward motion out of small kids rigs. My oldest girl has just progressed onto a Starboard Prokids S type,


easty
easty
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12 Sep 2006 8:11pm
remember that ad for starboard with little blond boy riding at the front of the starboard go hanging onto a ski rope and handle off the bow? has anyone tried that, looks a good way for junior to get the "stoke" before they're capable of doing it themselves.
decrepit
decrepit
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12 Sep 2006 7:45pm
quote:
Originally posted by hardie

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Tips: they have to feel it's fun for them, (has to be some mastery and pleasure in it for them) lot's of praise, and positive reinforcement, avoid criticising and negative statements, disappointment shows in your body language, so do be too invested in whether they get into it or not.



This is great advice, I've seen a few kids turned off because their parents were pushing too hard, encourage them gently, they've got to want to do it, and get enjoyment from it.
Also some kids are turned off by not wanting to look an idiot in front of their peers, they need to appreciate that every body falls of learning this sport, and looking a bit of a kook now will be well and truly made up for when they can do it.
No matter how funny they look try not to laugh!!!
oldtimer
oldtimer
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12 Sep 2006 8:28pm
If I can add a question in here:

I started teaching my kids (6 & 8 years) last summer after I bought a Starboard kids board & sail (2m) for them. The older one (8) can pull up the sail and sail out & back in (in light wind). Tacking with the uphaul OK. But then he gets bored. I am keen to get a board to sail with him (Swan river, WA) so that it is not Dad in the bank shouting instructions & kid nervous to go too far out. We can then do sailing excursions.

What I am asking advice on - is what board to get? I currently have an 80l Acid and a 106l Kombat. I am wanting something to sail in light wind with the kids as they learn, and which my wife can learn on, and (hopefully) I can get onto a plain as the wind picks up.
stonesurf
stonesurf
WA
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13 Sep 2006 8:46am
Jaeger Stone was a very good technical swimmer when he started at 11 yrs old. This gave him the tools to develop his sailing skills so quickly and he was always confident about the water. He became passionate very quickly and it was made easier by the gear we were developing. The development of the Severne Microwaves with him was incredible, l watched him pull up the rig with one hand out of the water by the mast. He found it hard to accept advice from me though at first, verbally abusing me but l would see he would take it on board later. l remember him floating around and blaming me for the lack of wind. l am afraid we are soft targets for their frustation, but the rewards from sailing and learning so quickly made it fun.
Hendrix my other son was not interested till he was 12 yrs old, it was like pulling teeth. But one day he decided and with Jaegers old gear he was away. l can recall him spending 3 hours constantly trying to waterstart, such perseverenvce. One year later he was doing duckgybes, back loops, crappy wave riding. Now 18 months on he was charging in 30 knots crossoff Coronation in a solid swell on a 42 litre board with a 3m sail.
Sabre my 8 yr old daughter has just started, l have used an old surf rod for the mast,(incredibly light and flexy) cut the top off an old sail, taped it into position,and a cut down skinny boom. Its maybe 0.8m in size but Sabre can lift it effortlessly out of the water. This will give Sabre a good start, l praise her , stop when she has had enough, encourage her for one more try and buy an ice cream on the way home and talk it up.
l pick my kids up from school in summer and head to the beach and we wind surf till dark. We then cop it from Mum for being home late and blame each other for who was the last one out sailing till the sun sets .
Any tips on keeping your wife happy?
junior freestyle
junior freestyle
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13 Sep 2006 11:04am
well I am a kid who learnt to windsurf about 2.5 years ago. My best freind was taught by his father at the age of 7. and then I thought that it was cool. one day at the dump i saw an old windsurfer, so i grabbed it and showed my besty and he found an old 3 meter for me. many hours of ****ting around myself and finally i was on the plane and hooked. I soon taught my step bro's, as a no pressure kinda thing. they wanted to learn badly and catch up to me so the competition was fierce. and soon they had reached a good state of windsurfing.
at the moment i still windsurf one of my step bro's is 13 and he is still in it, i am trying to get him very good very quick. and the other one got into kiting.
Hellemam
Hellemam
WA
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13 Sep 2006 9:07am
That all sounds great. My girls will be 11.5 and 10 by the time I am organising the lessons. They are enthousiastic to do it so fingers crossed. I talked to a few shops about some kids gear and it doesn't seem too much of a bank breaking investment (yet).
decrepit
decrepit
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13 Sep 2006 10:20am
quote:
Originally posted by stonesurf


Any tips on keeping your wife happy?



Great post Mark, glad to hear your daughter is also getting into it!
Now those boys will really have to perform!

My solution with lovely wife was to get her into it as well. But she stipulated from the start that if it got too hard she'd give up, wanted to enjoy herself evrey session. So she started slow and easy, the traditional big board, small sail approach. Always staying well inside her comfort zone. Now 12 or so years later she's the one who's pushing to get to Coro or Exmouth for the start of the season.

So it may be a mistake to expect your wife to learn on one of your boards, try borrowing a big starboard or something.
hardie
hardie
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13 Sep 2006 1:49pm
quote:
Originally posted by stonesurf

Any tips on keeping your wife happy?




Well... if I gave my secrets away, people would say I was bragging

But If I can be serious for a moment the secret is, I haven't got a clue
izymiester
izymiester
WA
325 posts
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13 Sep 2006 9:07pm
I teach heaps of kids windsurfing and have found the main factors

Uphauling with ease and controlling sail

Fun

Following the kids around is unbelievably responsive, as many just forget or are spurred on by tryin to race u etc and get them to follow u around etc.

Heaps of praising

Instructors are vital since they will only get frustrated and annoyed at their own parents and wont take in the instructions as well since they will just dis them and think u are talking bollocks etc, but with an instructor they will concentrate and be motivated ten times more. HOLDING CONCENTRATION in kids is the hardest thing and keepin it fun and lots of appraisal holds the key


Between the ages of 8-12 its extremely critical to make sure the kids are doing the right uphaul techniques,right sail size and can do the basics of sailing ie moving along for a 100 metres or so at first. But if they are struggling with the uphaul and managing the sail with incorrect techniques then it will only deter them and they will have a strong opinion against windsurfing, even for life!

aus005
aus005
TAS
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13 Sep 2006 11:51pm
hi guys
i have taught 2 of my sons to windsurf and there is a couple of things that will help fast track them
1 good gear wide modern board i use a sboard 155
2 kids rig easy to uphaul and light
3 be sure they are confident in the water not afraid to fall off
4do not push them too hard but be encouraging and patient as it will happen at their own pace
5 sail around with them
6 get a mate or instructor to give advice as this is not always listened to if it comes from dad
7 offer incentives ie better gear if they get going well so they know there is no limit to how far they can progress
8 and most importantly be very patient as frustration can be seen as failure
also dont try to start them too early i think 9 or ten is a good age
it is working for me any way
cheers ian
ka72
ka72
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14 Sep 2006 2:22pm
I have a 5yo son who has been asking me for about a year to try windsurfing. I recently got a small kids rig about 1.7m and gave him a go. Even though the rig is very light, he was still having lots of trouble and didnt want to listen to his mum. He is still keen after a few goes, but I feel he maybe still just be a little too young.

He has had a go of sitting on the front of one of my boards and I managed to get planning with a 6.2m sail and a 150lt board. He absolutely loved this and each time the wind dropped a bit he complained and just wanted to go fast again. Maybe he likes the speed as I windsurfed with him up until I was 7 months pregnant. Cant wait till he is a bit older so we can go out together.
king of the point
king of the point
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14 Sep 2006 12:52pm
Seen a lot of people at Corros learning.

Watch out for the ocean floor ,,,,
Clear clean water ,no weed , sandy bottom ,no swell.

WITH OUT FREEKING THE YOUNGSTERS, IF THERES WEED AND YOUR WALKING THE GEAR AROAND IN THE WATER DRAG YOUR FEET.

Cobbler or a sting ray will slow them up.

HEAPS OF PEOPLE GOT HIT BY COBBLERS AT CORROS IN THE SHALLOWS

1 DO NOT USE HOT WATER watch even warm water --- ALTHOUGH IT RELIEVES THE PAIN , THE HOT WATER REACTS WITH THE SKIN AND POISON CAUSEING MAJOR BLISTERS.
ICE ICE ICE DOCT DOCT DOCTER

Had 2x doctors MALE FEMALE at corros MALE stept on one ,and begged to be injected into the wound but was shaking so much the other Female doctor couldnt get it do it (wasnt funny OK IT WAS ****EN FUNNY )

AWARNESS OF THE LOCAL CONDITIONS can make or break confiedence




hardie
hardie
WA
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14 Sep 2006 2:47pm
Talking of Corro's and kiddies windsurfing

My daughter was 8 yo here, 1 hour lesson with mum on a Stoney Fish (3 fins), and a Bic Mini Rig (approx 1.0 m)

Brings a tear to my eye, just like her first steps

photo's:

seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=2364

seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=2365
Hellemam
Hellemam
WA
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14 Sep 2006 3:19pm
Those pictures show your daughter with a helmet. That was one thing I was thinking about. Probably best to provide them with helmets?
king of the point
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14 Sep 2006 3:21pm
That the go
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RAL INN
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14 Sep 2006 5:14pm
quote:
Originally posted by easty

remember that ad for starboard with little blond boy riding at the front of the starboard go hanging onto a ski rope and handle off the bow? has anyone tried that, looks a good way for junior to get the "stoke" before they're capable of doing it themselves.



I did the try and teach the kids on my gear for a bit. I thought their small so the board is relatively big. not good.

picked up a Hot Kids rig in Maui 2.1m. Next thing my then 9yo daughter is cruising and then starts wanting to bring her friends along and teach them herself.

Got a Kailua and thats when she really started enjoying it.
But the real fun for her was getting on the front of the Kailua with me.
start with her sitting on nose, get going and then she can stand up.
she could literally walk around, and get back standing next to me with hands on boom. All the sudden it all makes sense to her.

now she's 14 and netball and friends and sleepovers are more important than what dad does, but I know she will end up a windsurfer.
hardie
hardie
WA
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14 Sep 2006 3:50pm
quote:
Originally posted by Hellemam

Those pictures show your daughter with a helmet. That was one thing I was thinking about. Probably best to provide them with helmets?




I don't think they're critically essential with small kiddy rigs, but certainly with larger rigs and falling etc. The problem is finding helmets that suits kids? The one she'a wearing is my wfe's who has a small head, coz my daughter has a big head like her dad, poor thing
Fieldie
Fieldie
WA
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14 Sep 2006 7:25pm
Nice work Guys!!!!!
Your daughter looks like A NATURAL Hardie! You should be very proud!!!!!!!
Mmy 3yo boy may be a bit short of those big steps, but I'm inspired to look for a 2nd hand wide 150L board this season...
Mackay
Mackay
NSW
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14 Sep 2006 10:15pm
One of the best days sailing I have ever had was in about 6 to 10 Knots with my 12 yr old son sailing along right behind me. I tried him out on my old small boards with old wave sails but the best for him was a formula board and a dacron 3.2. He just took off! Now my wife wants to learn but the formula is too fragile. So now we are looking for a wide board like a Go or a New School. Looking forward to the best summer ever!
Gestalt
Gestalt
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14 Sep 2006 10:26pm
hi Mackay,

Peter aka NXS at caloundra wind and surf makes formula style wide boards covered in rubber for beginners and they have a centre board. some of the WindWnaderers members got a lesson on one and said it was excellent.

could be what you are after. he may even have a secondhand one. check out http://www.windwanderers.com/website/060708%20Caloundra.html

now to keep this on topic. the advice i was given to get my daughter into the sport was to stick her on the front of the board and go for a sail. it has worked with friends kids previously. that way they get a taste of the thrill. only another year or 2 and i'll be doing the same.
Mackay
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NSW
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17 Sep 2006 8:47pm
Thanks Gestalt, I'll check it out!
jsn_batman
jsn_batman
WA
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18 Sep 2006 8:01am
my old man taught me to windsurf, 5 years later and after instructing for 2 and a half years, im teaching him, haha still good fun, cause on the one hand you have and experience and on the other you got a newbie.
anyone heard of neil, from safetybay, yep the young guy is ripping now, haha was good fun sailing with him,
at safetybay Go Windsurfing use to run a 'kids club', on satday afternoon for a couple of hours, in that time we teach the kids and have a 'race' or something like that, yea was good fun, some kids really enjoyed others were either a little too scared or just plain didnt like it.
but hey start em young AND KEEP THE SUPPORT UP they'll end thrashing you i n a couple of years, oh and keeping gear updated is a brilliant idea,
Mackay
Mackay
NSW
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20 Sep 2006 5:08pm
How's this for a win! Young bloke (12) has a sail on the weekend, gets his beach starts happening, gets up on the plane on the Aerotech 3.2 Dacron jobbie and old Bombora. Smiles from ear to ear. When we get home, he cancels his birthday order for a computer game he was keen on and requests his own boom. I better get real good, real quick or he'll catch up very quickly.
Hellemam
Hellemam
WA
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8 Jan 2007 2:51pm
Just an update on this:
I had my daughters do the course at Pelican point last week and they were both enthousiastic about the whole thing. As my youngest said: "I don't like it, I love it."
Now I'll try to keep them interested in the sport so they can act as my excuse to go windsurfing.


Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
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8 Jan 2007 2:57pm
Good on you!

I know a few father/mother and son/daughter windsurfing families and it is just fantastic to see. Most parents take their kids to sport and watch them play but with windsurfing you can particpate together as family. Life is all about experiences and some of the best experiences to be had are windsurfing and if you can include your kids in this all the better.


garynoel
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WA
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8 Jan 2007 6:52pm

BOARDING SCHOOL!!
Zed
Zed
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8 Jan 2007 7:13pm
When I have kids they will windsurf - end of story. If they don't then I'll put them up for adoption, harsh but fair.
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