Cronulla wavesailing???

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Long Reef
Long Reef
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13 Dec 2005 2:12pm
With the NE predicted Thurs & Fri does anyone reckon if its "safe" to sail Green hills north Cronulla? Is there an alternative?
Cheers
Tim
qwerty
qwerty
NSW
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13 Dec 2005 3:18pm
If you drive into the carpark and there are 5000 people with bats in their hands, then maybe you should try another beach.

But who knows??
Maybe see what happens around town over the next few nights.
If its died down then surely a few hours on a weekday arvo would be safe.

Otherwise, if you have the time, just drive down to the Gong.
leski
leski
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13 Dec 2005 3:22pm
hopefully, it should be ok during the day, .. was planning to go today if the SE picks up a bit more.

but may actually head down to the gong on thursday...will you be there qwerty? do you reckon swell 'll be big enough down there?
qwerty
qwerty
NSW
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13 Dec 2005 3:31pm
Hi Leski,

Yeah I'll be sailing on Thursday for sure.
Not much swell right now but hopefully there'll be something more by then.
Will keep my eye on it and let you know
mkseven
mkseven
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13 Dec 2005 4:05pm
There is supposed to be another sms doing the rounds for next sunday. Personally i'd be looking at going elsewhere for a while, it just aint worth it.
rosey
rosey
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13 Dec 2005 5:17pm
if you are really dedicated, make the drive to newcastle and sail at nobbys
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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13 Dec 2005 10:56pm
This really sucks. I can only share Tim's sentiment about being concerned.

Back in Berlin they have these May Day protests every year. They usually start quite peacefully... but 99% of the time it ends up in an all out riot between left wing extremists and a 2,500 strong riot police force... the riots always happen in the same place and all the locals know to park their cars at least a couple of kilometers away. Anything left in the riots wake usually ends up totally burned out or at least trashed. (to get an idea what I am talking about take a look at this:
www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/05/01/16063021.php )

I thought I had left all of that behind. I guess people will never learn that you can't solve problems through violence.

I would suggest for anyone to try and avoid any windsurf spots around Botany Bay next weekend (Wanda, Kyeemagh, Maroubra, Kurnell/ La Perouse - although I don't know why anyone would want to go to either of those two for anything other than windsurfing or kiteboarding).

Go down to Gerroa or Shoalhaven Heads if a NEer is blowing and you have the time... it's generally better down that way anyway.
Long Reef
Long Reef
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14 Dec 2005 10:51am
Thanks guys - I may actually end up at long reef, maybe off the point where there can be a bit more wind and swell. I hav to pick up my wife from Westmead hospital at 5:00pm so this means being off the water at 3:30 which sucks and she would be very pissed if her car got scratched etc if i took the risk on Thurs.
Then again is it worth making a statment that people will still use the beach and spend money in the local cafe for a post sail bacon and egg roll & coke.....rather than be frightened off.
Cheers
Tim
PS had a great sail yesterday from 4:30 - 6:30 at Longy in 15knt SE but there were about 20 kites out making it pretty busy.
mkseven
mkseven
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14 Dec 2005 10:36am
I can assure you there aint no statement worth losing a car and ending up in hospital for. Statements are like pride, sometimes it is better to swallow it and go your seperate way.
leski
leski
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14 Dec 2005 1:07pm
This is all very sad!!!
I've seen the cars completely smashed at Maroubra and it was pretty bad.

I have got mixed feeling about going to Cronulla:

I believe that we all want this crap to settle down,
so (unfortunately for us) we may have to stay away from these current areas with problems (at least over the weekend)so that the calm could come back quicker. Not necessarly because of our own concern for our cars etc..but also for the residents of these areas that more than anyone want their street to become normal again.
If the street and beach are generally empty of people, the trouble makers from either side will be quickly stopped, and the general aggresive feel will eventually settle.


However, I am down for a good sailing session!!!
so where else for Tomorrow??? maybe it is a good opportunity for all of us to meet somewhere else..Northern Beaches?..wollogong?.Gerroa??? let's organise a cool positive day of awesome wavesailing!!!


or maybe Wanda ..with some white or peace flag at the top of our sails!!!
leski
leski
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14 Dec 2005 2:34pm
atually did anyone sailed at Wanda last night with that SE??
qwerty
qwerty
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14 Dec 2005 3:05pm
da Gong
Long Reef
Long Reef
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14 Dec 2005 4:12pm
I think i will head to long reef - there is a bit of SE swell at the mooment and with a NE even at 12knots it good be better than usual. Even off the point at Makaha or Butterbox my be worth it with a floaty board.

For Wollongong i have heard Tawrogi is good
Tim
qwerty
qwerty
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14 Dec 2005 5:06pm
Butterbox goes off when it's on.

Gong will be on tomorrow for sure.
Yeah Towradgi is good.
Otherwise Sandon Pt, Corrimal or Warilla will be good.

Gerroa is the go if you can get down there.
matcham
matcham
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14 Dec 2005 5:50pm
I was thinking about Gerroa tomorrow, but then the swell don't look so hot. The forecast being what it is it could be one of those rare days when Longy goes off. What about one of those Gong beaches instead?
leski
leski
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14 Dec 2005 6:58pm
haven't sailed Longy yet, so how would I know if the wind is picking up and I could leave home and drive this way. Which wind station should I check ( on seabreeze or there www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65066.shtml)

hey Tim I don't really have such thing as a floaty board so is the wind usually weak gusty there?



I am keen for either side longy (Butterbox) or Gong (Corrimal...etc)
matcham
matcham
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14 Dec 2005 8:38pm
Depressing North Head is the station to watch for. It has to really blast to get in at Longy but if it does it is cross-off if kinda gusty. Longy's a swell magnet so that's a bonus. If the signs aren't promising by say 1pm look elsewhere.

Actually, to be honest, if you're already southside, stay there!
leski
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14 Dec 2005 9:14pm
Ok so GONG here I come!!!

Let me know where you are goin qwerty (I've sent you an Email with my mobile number)
so if anyone is keen see ya at Corrimal,Towradgi,Warilla...don't know any of these places so could join any crew that already know where to go.

what are you up to Matcham then?
qwerty
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15 Dec 2005 8:49am
Yeah Longy is awesome when its good, but unfortunately that is nowhere near often enough.
If you are in a more reliable spot (eg. southside) you wouldn't bother driving to Longy for a NE. Southerlies are a different story though.

Leski your email got bounced back. You shouldn't attach kiddie p0rn to it because our system rejects it.
Don't worry, I have your email address.

My plan is to finish work around 4pm, and check whats happening here and further south. I'll get updates from that Whyner ****er throughout the day.
There was excellent surf at Sandon Pt last night. That could be an option, otherwise the extra 20/30 mins to Gerroa will be worth it if there is surf. The Kiama bypass is open so its quicker to get there.

See what happens today.





matcham
matcham
NSW
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15 Dec 2005 8:52am
Lemme know where you're going and I might join you. Today looks like being a classic. Longy should work but wot the hell, don't wanna take no chances!
leski
leski
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15 Dec 2005 10:12am
geeeh the antispam systems these days are all confused!!!
you don't reject an Email that talk about wind, waves and fun...where's this world goin!!!

ok so bring on da green arrows!!!!!!
Kremlin
Kremlin
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15 Dec 2005 8:06am
Comrade Qwerty
Your presence has been greatly missed at longreef these last few months

The anticipation in the carpark as sailors tend to arrive enmasse and rig feveriously
Those epic summer days ripping around at Butterbox, blasting over the top of the iredessant green weed covered reef heading out to the building wall at Butterbox
The way the wind changes pitch as you leave the water and climb skywards
The weird way water beads and runs off your board and body, defying the very laws of gravity
The thrill of laying into a super powered carve jibe as the next wave begins to lip
The feeling of weightlessness in the sail as the board carves through the jibe and the inertia of the building wave comes into play
The sheer exhileration of racing down the line on a bare away run with the speed climbing imeasurably
The sound of spray slapping down on the water as you cleave off the top third of the wave in a giant grinding cutback
The sight of the wall curving inwards as Butterbox begins to bend around on itself
The sensation of launching into the bending wall and grabbing the kind of air you can only normally achieve while sailing out through waves... not while on it

Ahh Butterbox, when it's ordinary it's pretty mediocre... but when it's on... IT IS ON

Bring on today's predicted Nor Easter and the little spike in southerly swell, Today just may be one of those days for longreef and Butterbox
The raptuoious shreiks of approval from the sailors around you
qwerty
qwerty
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15 Dec 2005 11:28am
Dah Kremlin.

That was a superb "Ode to Butterbox".
I agree with every word of it.
When Butterbox is doing well, the sport of windsurfing is doing well.
(I still say its sailable in a westerly, but I never bothered to.)

On my regular trips up to the Nth Beaches, hopefully I can score it again. Xmas eve arvo (next Saturday) will be my next opportunity. Fingers crossed.

As for today, I do think it will be one of those days for "da Box" to crank.
Enjoy, and give my regards to the green slime on the reef. On more than one occasion has it kept water out of my board and rock out of my flesh.




Kremlin
Kremlin
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15 Dec 2005 9:51am
I have sailed in westerly... can be big swim back in when wind stops or blow gusty
Very off to cross shore... alittle bit of south in the westerly and you can venture round the reef to Makaha !
Cross off to side shore in a southerly/south westerly
Scored Makha big time last year just after chrissie when the southerlies kick in to the Sydney to Hobart fleet
Sailed it 3 days straight... the last day was with a crazy mate of mine from Perth who has since moved over here for work
Matt if you are reading this, here's hoping for some more of the mast high madness we scoured almost 12 months ago !
For anyone else willing to give it a try you will not be disappointed... though the swim in after breaking gear can be a bit hairy !
Broke a mast there a while back and had to swim in over the reef !
Good thing about that is I found a nice little channel.
Next time its on I plan to park at the top of Longreef (past the golf course) and walk in over the top, rig on the northern part of the point and launch off the reef

As for the green slime at Butterbox, I'll give it a gentle pat after I get lip launched onto it this arvo trying something completely out of my league
Long Reef
Long Reef
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15 Dec 2005 3:13pm
How did they ever run wave contests at longy? Today i waited until 1pm - there was 5knot NE and 1-2 feet of wind generated easterly wave and no swell at all at Butterbox. Good thing my little 5'11 fish can pick up anything as i got a good surf in. I thinking cronulla if all is quiet this weekend.
Cheers
Tim
Kremlin
Kremlin
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15 Dec 2005 1:14pm
Comrade Timmy

Wind tends to come late to Longy, 4pm onwards for a nor easter unless its howling
Sou Easters you can sail in pretty much anytime
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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15 Dec 2005 1:23pm
hey Tim... I think the area around Warringah wasn't as build up in the late 80s as it is now... perhaps that changed the effect of the NEer seabreeze.

it seems the wind has actually increased around the airport area. Perhaps due to the construction of the second runway.

it might all be rubbish talk of course...

I just wish they would build a no speed limit freeway or tunnel to Gerroa... would happily pay $15,- toll if I could drive it in 25 minutes from the CBD...
Kremlin
Kremlin
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15 Dec 2005 1:38pm
Just cause I felt like beating myself up even more about the great lack of wind on Sydney's northern beachs i checked out the Shoalhaven web cam on coastal watch... there's a guy blasting in and out, in and out, in and out, right in front of the club house

To make matters worse it seems to puffing along at a pretty steady 20 knots up at Nobbys in Newie... wind both sides but nothing in Sydney !

Hope you get a great sail in down the gong qwerty man !
whyner
whyner
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15 Dec 2005 10:23pm
Cam is on Shoalhaven heads surf club looking out where you actually sail.

I sailed at Warilla today with qwerty. It was good but the wind dies there between 4 to 5:30 (Thats when I was sailing). 20 knots before I got there 20 after. This wind thing happens nearly every north easter at Warilla when the wind changes from Northeast to more northerly.

Oh well, its usually me getting the best of the conditions, its about time qwerty got some.
qwerty
qwerty
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16 Dec 2005 10:57am
That was without a doubt the best sail I've had so far this season.
Wind hammered in stronger and stronger until after dark. Waves were awesome. Couldn't move my arms after coming in.

I think it only blows when Whyner goes home. So don't go there anymore Whyner.
leski
leski
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16 Dec 2005 11:17am
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