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Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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13 Jan 2009 11:14am
mkseven said...

Leech said...


Next time I'm in Qld I'll take u up on the offer for the post-sail yarn (I'll buy the beer).


Thats cause you don't like queensland beer ay


strewth who DOES
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
13 Jan 2009 12:15pm
and dont forget to show your theological credentials ???? kidding, dont strike me down laurie .......ouch ! was that just static electricity ?????..
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
13 Jan 2009 12:18pm
Mark _australia said...

mkseven said...

Leech said...


Next time I'm in Qld I'll take u up on the offer for the post-sail yarn (I'll buy the beer).


Thats cause you don't like queensland beer ay


strewth who DOES


me.....better hair of the dog than urine of the cat !!!!....
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
13 Jan 2009 12:22pm
Mark _australia said...

mkseven said...

Leech said...


Next time I'm in Qld I'll take u up on the offer for the post-sail yarn (I'll buy the beer).


Thats cause you don't like queensland beer ay


strewth who DOES


Well any beer is better than fluoridated water, but I'm inclined to agree

Laurie the nerds thread had pretty much died, it's the principal of locking the thread
elizabethb
elizabethb
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13 Jan 2009 12:40pm
Mark, I hope you are not making a generalization about Queensland State Primary Schools as a whole.

I have experienced a semi-broad range of schools for someone attending Griffith University from State Schools, to Adventist to Jewish schools.

~Brisbane Adventist College >B.A.C< – Yr 3(Wishart)
~Junction Park State School– Yr 6/7 (Annerley)
~Sinai College – Yr 3/4 (Mackenzie – Jewish School, 12 kids in my class, 32 in the school)
~Wishart State School – Yr 7 (Wishart)

Having attended BAC since Year 2 – 12, I found myself wanting to be employed only within the private sector. Yes, as a child we all have some problems within school, but I assumed as a teacher going back to the school I loved so much, would be my dream. Needless to say, one could not pay me enough to teach at that school; the reasons I will not publish… but there are several.

Overall, each school has their individual challenges. I do not support nor condemn the beliefs of Adventists, Jews or Catholics; I however would like to say that I have never been around such an amazing, supportive school system, positive and well behaved students as I have at Wishart.

Obviously some state schools have a ‘tarnished reputation’ due to some of the cohorts behaviour and actions; however, I find it somewhat offensive as a possible future Ed Qld Teacher that the Schools not be to your liking as a whole and that I could possibly let you down or not teach your child to your standard; but I understand and respect your position.

State Schools offer religious education classes within their curriculum and have a school chaplain there on a full time basis (from what I have been aware of in the past). It is the parent and students decision whether they attend these religious activities or not, but it is definitely unfair to state that it wouldn’t give your children the start you wanted them to.

mkseven said...

Elmo no taking that debate to the school isn't necessary. I made a decision to give my kids what I believed is the best start in life, which unfortunately I feel is outside the ability of the public school system. I did actually make their principal aware that I felt that way in the application interview and that I was not pro-religion. It is up to them to make their own decision's whether they follow faith or not when they are old enough and wise enough to make an informed argument for or against.
mkseven
mkseven
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QLD, 2315 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:04pm
Yes I am making a broad generalisation, as I know there have always been some great public schools and some dodgy private ones. I'm sure there is politics that affects both systems but I can only comment from experience but hey they are my kids.

Speaking to friends whom attended both public and private, the private people as a whole seemed better prepared in almost all aspects than the ex public students.

Ultimately it is down to the children on whether they are accepting or able to learn but providing them with the best tools is a good start.
elizabethb
elizabethb
QLD
2081 posts
QLD, 2081 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:14pm
May I add that schools over the last 30 years have developed and changed more than we can imagine. Not just that, but the teaching strategies, understanding of student learning and styles, ICT integration and syllabus/ Essential Learnings/ QCAT Testing, is changing and evolving every few years.

I question Ed Qld’s movement from various syllabus documents to the essential learnings, and the overall success of these, but I think it is unfair to make the assumption that because a school is newly built, has better facilities. i.e. hall, pool, sporting equipment etc., it is an overall better school.

I believe that all Queensland Schools, be it Jewish, Catholic, Adventist, State Schools etc. should ALL be using the same syllabus/ Essential Learning documents which detail exact student learning by a specific age. Not cath ed. using different learning targets for their students; although I admit I have not seen what is used, and thus cannot compare.

This doesn't end there; if a students work needs extending, then their work is extended and they are engaged. The majority of "problem children" are "problems" because they are not engaged in the work their teachers give them/ they either need extension in math, english or reading, or more assistance; I just wish more teachers took the time to see this.

I believe... ->A quality teacher can make use of the equipment and facilities they have, and student outcomes be on-par, if not better than those with the facilities. Students are much more flexible than we realize when it comes to education; and nothing is more beneficial than encouraging them to ‘think outside the box’…
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:36pm
ARE YOU SAYING I'M OLD

Liz I agree, and yes I shouldn't generalise as I have, more to say I would err towards private schools but choosing a school is a process of seeing what is available and what you feel is right for you.
Leech
Leech
WA
1933 posts
WA, 1933 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:06pm
laurie said...

leech said...
But in the latest instance I think the wrong choice was made.
...
Well if that's the case, let's be consistent. A LOT of topics on this site have people disagreeing with one another (Eg. seat harness vs waist harness, C kites vs bows etc). You'd better go lock them all too!


Sorry you feel let down leech, I do the best I can with what I have. As they say, "you can't please all the people, all the time".

I'd also like to suggest that debating religion is completely different from a seat -vs- waist harness debate.

Never in the history of these forums has a topic about religion ended peacefully, and that's why it was locked - before it got out of control - they all started off as fun banter.

leech said...if I went in there and spammed it and asked Laurie to close it, it would be my account that would be suspended...

But it's disappointing to realise how artificial it is. Big Brother is watching so make sure you don't go beyond small talk


Steady oh .. getting a bit carried away there. If you spam as in "Nokia phones for $85", yeah - your login will be suspended.

Me suspending your account for you asking me to close a topic? Drawing a long bow there.

If you want to go beyond the small talk (exlcluding religion/politics), you can do it here, or in General Discussion. If the topic sucks, the "community" will be all over it long before I am!

windwarning said...
I think seabreeze is a good site but with forums I think it is the most stricked site I have ever joined. One little thing wrong and your posts is locked.


10 locked out of 9640 topics over 5 years ... locked topics are pretty rare.

For everybody, this forum is great, and is one of the least administered out of all of the forums because everybody gets along great, and always has done, and I'm sure will continue to!

Let's live for today, for tonight we have to go to bed!*

Onwards & Upwards!


* individual experience may vary


Ok, your rules. You do a great job and this is still a top site.

Thankyou!!!

(and i think I misused the word "spam". What's the techy term for copying and pasting stuff over and over again?)
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:13pm
laurie said...

Fair enough .. the topic is unlocked .. go for your life ...

Ah Lozza you cracked under pressure

555
555
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555 555
892 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:14pm
Leech said...
(and i think I misused the word "spam". What's the techy term for copying and pasting stuff over and over again?)

Perhaps the term 'doing an Elmo' just evolved from it's earlier definition?

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23690 posts
WA, 23690 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:31pm
Leech said...
What's the techy term for copying and pasting stuff over and over again?)


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