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Subsonic
Subsonic
WA
3415 posts
WA, 3415 posts
25 May 2026 10:04pm
Imax1 said..
Hey , what about laminating a board ,with one continuous thread , the way north makes those sails ? You could perfectly control the layers , angles of threads . Perfect stiffness , strength , twist , whatever you want. On a rotisserie , both sides all in one hit. I’m a god dam genius . I’ll accept a case of beer from whoever does this first.😀



Kinda like filament winding a mast?



Genius!

So easy even an AI could do it. No need for all those pesky workers!
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14963 posts
QLD, 14963 posts
26 May 2026 1:02pm
bowsa said..




Mark _australia said..
Cost. Foam makes new models easy to produce .. but slight tweaks for costly mould changes made it hard to have a range of hollow boards.

then labour cost maybe for more complex layup, trimming halves and then bonding halves properly.
I think foam sandwich is the best blend of cost vs durability vs ability to change shape if needed and that's why it's prevailed.
I've seen some great DIY hollow boards but I think the current mass production of them is a response to the trendiness of wing / DW and wanting to have something new that the other companies don't have. I hope it doesn't translate to $5000 windsurf boards soon.






too late... $4950 farkin el










No wonder the sport is reducing in size, who can afford 2-3 boards at that price.. for me to make a board at home it cost about 1k. Used to be $500-$600 per board.. that taking into acount it’s expensive for me as i buy in small amounts and pay premiums. Like painting a board, say 3-4 cans of paint… that's another $70 or so.. if i dont use it all its wasted….

i’m still using the epoxy additives i bought boards ago..at some point i’ll break even…
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23674 posts
WA, 23674 posts
27 May 2026 12:33pm
Subsonic said..

Imax1 said..
Hey , what about laminating a board ,with one continuous thread , the way north makes those sails ? You could perfectly control the layers , angles of threads . Perfect stiffness , strength , twist , whatever you want. On a rotisserie , both sides all in one hit. I'm a god dam genius . I'll accept a case of beer from whoever does this first.??




Kinda like filament winding a mast?



Genius!

So easy even an AI could do it. No need for all those pesky workers!


I tried it. There's a number of problematic things with it
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23674 posts
WA, 23674 posts
27 May 2026 12:35pm
Gestalt said..

bowsa said..





Mark _australia said..
Cost. Foam makes new models easy to produce .. but slight tweaks for costly mould changes made it hard to have a range of hollow boards.

then labour cost maybe for more complex layup, trimming halves and then bonding halves properly.
I think foam sandwich is the best blend of cost vs durability vs ability to change shape if needed and that's why it's prevailed.
I've seen some great DIY hollow boards but I think the current mass production of them is a response to the trendiness of wing / DW and wanting to have something new that the other companies don't have. I hope it doesn't translate to $5000 windsurf boards soon.







too late... $4950 farkin el











No wonder the sport is reducing in size, who can afford 2-3 boards at that price.. for me to make a board at home it cost about 1k. Used to be $500-$600 per board.. that taking into acount it's expensive for me as i buy in small amounts and pay premiums. Like painting a board, say 3-4 cans of paint. that's another $70 or so.. if i dont use it all its wasted..

i'm still using the epoxy additives i bought boards ago..at some point i'll break even.


Yeah it's not just you man. I reckon my materials cost has near on doubled in 5-6years. Plus availability issues too with less manufacturing here in Oz
Brent in Qld
Brent in Qld
WA
1479 posts
WA, 1479 posts
28 May 2026 9:39am
bowsa said..

Mark _australia said..
Cost. Foam makes new models easy to produce .. but slight tweaks for costly mould changes made it hard to have a range of hollow boards.

then labour cost maybe for more complex layup, trimming halves and then bonding halves properly.
I think foam sandwich is the best blend of cost vs durability vs ability to change shape if needed and that's why it's prevailed.
I've seen some great DIY hollow boards but I think the current mass production of them is a response to the trendiness of wing / DW and wanting to have something new that the other companies don't have. I hope it doesn't translate to $5000 windsurf boards soon.



too late... $4950 farkin el








Yeah naaa
Broken Fin
Broken Fin
33 posts
33 posts
28 May 2026 12:51pm
Mark _australia said..
I am always very sceptical of weight claims, anyone can make a 4kg board. But lasting? For jumping too? In waveboards see the best 6kg fail and the 6.5 kg last better. I see those manufacturers who use CK over wood (like Patrik, RRD and Tabou), and they won't sell out to the weight chase, definitely have better longevity.

Building waveboards for heavy guys has been a revelation - where you think you beefed it up still fails after 2 seasons. Its still foam on foam with some brittle fibre....... and 2 tonnes thru the heels on landing. (cite source: Me. I saw 20g's on deliberate flat landings in the Gorge, so 2 tons thru 2 heels for a 100kg bloke is a practical guesstimate..... )
So you put more stuff in. Change processes etc. A 4kg DW board is fragile and ain't treated like a WS board. 4kg slalom boards get negative rocker just from flat water fastness.

So I call BS / prove it lasts.

Now easy to drain foam? FARK YEAH and every manufacturer (bar Appletree lol) is going to want to know. What is is?


Good point....
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14963 posts
QLD, 14963 posts
28 May 2026 9:21pm
Mark _australia said..

Subsonic said..


Imax1 said..
Hey , what about laminating a board ,with one continuous thread , the way north makes those sails ? You could perfectly control the layers , angles of threads . Perfect stiffness , strength , twist , whatever you want. On a rotisserie , both sides all in one hit. I'm a god dam genius . I'll accept a case of beer from whoever does this first.??





Kinda like filament winding a mast?



Genius!

So easy even an AI could do it. No need for all those pesky workers!



I tried it. There's a number of problematic things with it

Do tell. Sounds interesting


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