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Gestalt
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18 Jan 2008 10:28pm
DL said...

Red5 said...

I agree with you though, it is an established fact that the windsurfing population is rapidly aging and the subject requires no further discussion.


try harder at trolling plz.




decrepit
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18 Jan 2008 9:38pm
Is everybody convinced, Red isn't Mr Kelly????
Not that it matters of course.
OceanBlue64
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18 Jan 2008 11:44pm
Red5 said...

I agree with you though, it is an established fact that the windsurfing population is rapidly aging and the subject requires no further discussion.



I look at windsurfing and kitesurfing the same way I look at the electronics industry...

When you are young and ill informed you tend to go for the cheaper, flashy, 'made in china' type equipment.

As you get a little older and wiser you invest in something of quality and of lasting value.... Hopefully I am a little wiser now
Richiefish
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18 Jan 2008 11:04pm
sure mkelly came across as an arrogant prick, but he had a few valid points worthy of discussion. Bit amusing I thought.
Red5
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19 Jan 2008 12:25am
The Windsurfing Jedi are a curious tribe...
The Windsurfing Jedi will get on his 70 litre board with a 4.0 sail, sink up to his knees, and in a 10 knot breeze will float out the back, furiously pumping while staring over his shoulder wide eyed at the wind line. After 30 minutes of failure to windsurf he will float back into the shore and stand on the beach staring in the direction of the breeze for another 10 minutes with a look of desperation in his eyes before finally giving up.
He is in a state of confusion, he has a new board that was great on Maui apparently, it’s the weekend and therefore there should be wind. He remembers there was lots of wind here in 1987 or at least that is what the Windsurfing Jedi elders have told him. But of course, ever since 1987 there has been the Global Wind Drought (GWD) that has lasted for 30 years, and has tried to destroy windsurfing, all Windsurfing Jedi have been taught of this phenomenon (the global recession and downturn in the economy at that time obviously had nothing to do with the demise of windsurfing's Glory Days). Although he has got nothing but frustration to show for his effort, he will come back tomorrow and do it again. Such is the Dogma of the Windsurfing Jedi.

The Windsurfing Jedi's life is one of contradiction, for example, he is a champion of the natural environment, yet while he is waiting for the GWD to end, he will fill his truck with more disposable windsurfing gear that is made of toxic and environmentally hazardous material that will be poisoning the earth until the end of time.
He won't buy a narrow long board that started the Glory Days because that is uncool, but he will make much merriment and mirth at Kitesurfers that only want to look cool.
Strangely, he will use a board that is very fragile and can easily be destroyed by water and sunlight. But technical things are not his freind, after all, after 40 years they can barley get a fin to fit in a fin box without some modification. Buying gear is a bit of minefield, rdm, sdm, downhaul pulleys fore-aft or across, tuttle, power, deep tuttle, booms that have barely changed since 1987; nothing seems to fit together right, buying one thing can sometimes mean changing everything if the Jedi is not careful. But thats ok because as we know, it gives him something to do while waiting for the GWD to end.
The Windsurfing Jedi does his best work 2km from shore when it is so windy nobody can stand on the beach without getting sandblasted. The general public will get to see windsurfing at the Olympics (ha ha), or watching learners falling off continuously in light winds and yet the Windsurfing Jedi is surprised more people aren't windsurfing. Let alone the time consuming learning process in a plug & play world, and let’s not forget the GWD phenomenon.

It is not all the Windsurfing Jedi's fault, the marketing departments are not helping him either. In a more and more desperate attempt to windsurf in the GWD Starboard bought out the GO. The board survived ridicule and was copied by everyone, wide boards everywhere, windsurfing was saved, phew! Then Formula came along, a return to the Glory Days was just around the corner, but the boards became really wide, expensive, and technical and the Glory Days did not return. Then Freestyle came and went with the same result, followed by SuperCross, and now that Slalom/Speedsailing is back; no doubt a return to the Glory Days is just around the corner.
Richiefish
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18 Jan 2008 11:35pm
see ??? funny guy. obviously been there.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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18 Jan 2008 10:42pm
Methinks there is a spy in our midst.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
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18 Jan 2008 10:45pm
And also Red5, it's very rude of you to talk about me like that,... in such a disparaging manner.

I'm shocked and offendend!

Laurie,... strike him off this instant!
sinker
sinker
WA
255 posts
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18 Jan 2008 10:49pm
Red5 said...

The Windsurfing Jedi are a curious tribe...
The Windsurfing Jedi will get on his 70 litre board with a 4.0 sail, sink up to his knees, and in a 10 knot breeze will float out the back, furiously pumping while staring over his shoulder wide eyed at the wind line. After 30 minutes of failure to windsurf he will float back into the shore and stand on the beach staring in the direction of the breeze for another 10 minutes with a look of desperation in his eyes before finally giving up.
He is in a state of confusion, he has a new board that was great on Maui apparently, it’s the weekend and therefore there should be wind. He remembers there was lots of wind here in 1987 or at least that is what the Windsurfing Jedi elders have told him. But of course, ever since 1987 there has been the Global Wind Drought (GWD) that has lasted for 30 years, and has tried to destroy windsurfing, all Windsurfing Jedi have been taught of this phenomenon (the global recession and downturn in the economy at that time obviously had nothing to do with the demise of windsurfing's Glory Days). Although he has got nothing but frustration to show for his effort, he will come back tomorrow and do it again. Such is the Dogma of the Windsurfing Jedi.

The Windsurfing Jedi's life is one of contradiction, for example, he is a champion of the natural environment, yet while he is waiting for the GWD to end, he will fill his truck with more disposable windsurfing gear that is made of toxic and environmentally hazardous material that will be poisoning the earth until the end of time.
He won't buy a narrow long board that started the Glory Days because that is uncool, but he will make much merriment and mirth at Kitesurfers that only want to look cool.
Strangely, he will use a board that is very fragile and can easily be destroyed by water and sunlight. But technical things are not his freind, after all, after 40 years they can barley get a fin to fit in a fin box without some modification. Buying gear is a bit of minefield, rdm, sdm, downhaul pulleys fore-aft or across, tuttle, power, deep tuttle, booms that have barely changed since 1987; nothing seems to fit together right, buying one thing can sometimes mean changing everything if the Jedi is not careful. But thats ok because as we know, it gives him something to do while waiting for the GWD to end.
The Windsurfing Jedi does his best work 2km from shore when it is so windy nobody can stand on the beach without getting sandblasted. The general public will get to see windsurfing at the Olympics (ha ha), or watching learners falling off continuously in light winds and yet the Windsurfing Jedi is surprised more people aren't windsurfing. Let alone the time consuming learning process in a plug & play world, and let’s not forget the GWD phenomenon.

It is not all the Windsurfing Jedi's fault, the marketing departments are not helping him either. In a more and more desperate attempt to windsurf in the GWD Starboard bought out the GO. The board survived ridicule and was copied by everyone, wide boards everywhere, windsurfing was saved, phew! Then Formula came along, a return to the Glory Days was just around the corner, but the boards became really wide, expensive, and technical and the Glory Days did not return. Then Freestyle came and went with the same result, followed by SuperCross, and now that Slalom/Speedsailing is back; no doubt a return to the Glory Days is just around the corner.





May the Force be with you Red 5

(the Naish force that is)
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
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18 Jan 2008 11:54pm
there was actually a point during that commentry where i smiled and thought to myself.

yeah...that's why i love windsurfing

it's about the point where red outlines all of the different types of windsurfing that can be done.

freestyle, formula, wave sailing, slalom, super-X, speed, longboarding. now that's cool. what other sport has so many appeals.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
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19 Jan 2008 12:23am
what did happen to super x? was it too hard? it was one of the best events to watch from a spectators perspective
elmo
elmo
WA
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18 Jan 2008 11:30pm
Red5 said...

The Windsurfing Jedi are a curious tribe...
The Windsurfing Jedi will get on his 70 litre board with a 4.0 sail, sink up to his knees, and in a 10 knot breeze will float out the back, furiously pumping while staring over his shoulder wide eyed at the wind line. After 30 minutes of failure to windsurf he will float back into the shore and stand on the beach staring in the direction of the breeze for another 10 minutes with a look of desperation in his eyes before finally giving up.
He is in a state of confusion, he has a new board that was great on Maui apparently, it’s the weekend and therefore there should be wind. He remembers there was lots of wind here in 1987 or at least that is what the Windsurfing Jedi elders have told him. But of course, ever since 1987 there has been the Global Wind Drought (GWD) that has lasted for 30 years, and has tried to destroy windsurfing, all Windsurfing Jedi have been taught of this phenomenon (the global recession and downturn in the economy at that time obviously had nothing to do with the demise of windsurfing's Glory Days). Although he has got nothing but frustration to show for his effort, he will come back tomorrow and do it again. Such is the Dogma of the Windsurfing Jedi.

The Windsurfing Jedi's life is one of contradiction, for example, he is a champion of the natural environment, yet while he is waiting for the GWD to end, he will fill his truck with more disposable windsurfing gear that is made of toxic and environmentally hazardous material that will be poisoning the earth until the end of time.
He won't buy a narrow long board that started the Glory Days because that is uncool, but he will make much merriment and mirth at Kitesurfers that only want to look cool.
Strangely, he will use a board that is very fragile and can easily be destroyed by water and sunlight. But technical things are not his freind, after all, after 40 years they can barley get a fin to fit in a fin box without some modification. Buying gear is a bit of minefield, rdm, sdm, downhaul pulleys fore-aft or across, tuttle, power, deep tuttle, booms that have barely changed since 1987; nothing seems to fit together right, buying one thing can sometimes mean changing everything if the Jedi is not careful. But thats ok because as we know, it gives him something to do while waiting for the GWD to end.
The Windsurfing Jedi does his best work 2km from shore when it is so windy nobody can stand on the beach without getting sandblasted. The general public will get to see windsurfing at the Olympics (ha ha), or watching learners falling off continuously in light winds and yet the Windsurfing Jedi is surprised more people aren't windsurfing. Let alone the time consuming learning process in a plug & play world, and let’s not forget the GWD phenomenon.

It is not all the Windsurfing Jedi's fault, the marketing departments are not helping him either. In a more and more desperate attempt to windsurf in the GWD Starboard bought out the GO. The board survived ridicule and was copied by everyone, wide boards everywhere, windsurfing was saved, phew! Then Formula came along, a return to the Glory Days was just around the corner, but the boards became really wide, expensive, and technical and the Glory Days did not return. Then Freestyle came and went with the same result, followed by SuperCross, and now that Slalom/Speedsailing is back; no doubt a return to the Glory Days is just around the corner.



Well, we've found MKelly again

Spoken like a reformed alcoholic.

Possibly an x windsurfer who went to kiting and is now trying to justify his change by hanging poo on the sport he used to do.

Most likely remembering his feeble attempts at the sport and painting the whole crew with his own inadequacies, went to kiting as he didn't have the skills to survive as a poley.

Prefers kiting as his mum doesn't want him to sail to far from shore in case his floaties break.

Possesses such a poor knowledge off both sports that he is under the false immpression that windsurfing kit is more disposable than kiting kit.

A 2 year old Kite is so far out of date that the fashionable kiter wouldn't be seen dead with it.

The disposible gear of the kiting crew can also be seen with the plethora of kites and boards which are regularly lost due to the inability of their operators to control their equipment.

The age of the participants shows the popularity of the sport.

Come back when you have been Kiting for 20-30years and then you can start talking.
I've only been a poley for 8 years which is most likely more than twice as long as what you've been a teabagger for.

The reality is I don't have a problem with the kiting crew, I get on well with them and have a good laugh with them.

The little willy brigade (not the general kiting crew) such as yourself can go hide behind your mums apron again.



Krisiz1
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WA
331 posts
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18 Jan 2008 11:36pm
Red5 that was great. Dont know which team you bat for but it was thought provoking anyway. One point though, who is worried about whether a sport is popular or not? If I was the only person on earth who still windsurfed I would be as happy as a pig. I would have the whole estuary to myself (apart from the 100 mtr strip along the shore where the kiteboarders huddle) and I could blast away till my hearts content.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
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19 Jan 2008 12:57am
faaark that was poetry

enter the era of the windsurfing Jedi

my status and my peers status has been elevated

i can hear my carbon mast humming

shame it doesn't retract into the extension at the push of a button
now that would be cool.

TonyC
TonyC
WA
410 posts
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19 Jan 2008 12:18am
Always thought it amusing that there is such a large lost and found section in Kiting (even its own category) yet none in windsurfing forums. And WS has so much more bits of kit - reasons anyone?
pweedas
pweedas
WA
4642 posts
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19 Jan 2008 12:29am
elmo said...



Well, we've found MKelly again

Spoken like a reformed alcoholic.




It can't possibly be Mkelly cos I told him to go and stand in the corner and think about what he just did.
And it would be absolutely unthinkable that he would ignore my explicit instruction.
Although it is a bit strange that Red5 appeared the very same time that Mkelly disapeared.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it's like that Clark Kent / Superman thing?
Did MKelly wear glasses?
bubs
bubs
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19 Jan 2008 2:12am
Red5 said...


The Windsurfing Jedi does his best work 2km from shore when it is so windy nobody can stand on the beach without getting sandblasted. The general public will get to see windsurfing at the Olympics (ha ha), or watching learners falling off continuously in light winds and yet the Windsurfing Jedi is surprised more people aren't windsurfing. Let alone the time consuming learning process in a plug & play world, and let’s not forget the GWD phenomenon.



I certainly don't windsurf for the glory and """showing off""" to bystanders on the beach. Do it purely for self enjoyment and how good it makes me feel to improve, go faster and lear new things. I think i speak on most of our behalf here anyway.

Bubs

P.S: Compare windsurfing and kitesurfing. Which has been going longer??? Until the time comes where kitesurfing has outlasted windsurfing nothing much can be said. Kitesurfing was a big hit, then deteriated.
waveslave
waveslave
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19 Jan 2008 12:55am
Red5 said...
In this forum it is Hardie who is controlling things and keeping it as boring as possible.


I'm sorry but you're wrong...
that would be Laurie who does that stuff.
lol.


Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
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19 Jan 2008 9:13am
greenleader said...

faaark that was poetry

enter the era of the windsurfing Jedi

my status and my peers status has been elevated

i can hear my carbon mast humming

shame it doesn't retract into the extension at the push of a button
now that would be cool.


huuuuuuUUUUUUMMMMmmmmmmm..use the downhaul Luke ! Where does one buy a robe these days ?
Red5
Red5
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51 posts
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19 Jan 2008 10:32pm
Why would anyone want windsurfing to attract people to it, to have generic bits and pieces that fit together properly, easily and to make entry into the sport simpler? Why that could help give the sport the Holy Grail of marketing, the much touted 'Mass Market Appeal'! Who the Hell would want that? Not the baby boomers thats for sure. After all, they are enjoying the sport, they are cashed up, they are the ones supporting the industry and they don't need competition. After all they have spent 20 years learning to windsurf, soon they will have the hang of it, and with the help of modern medical science and the remnants of the kids inheritance they should be able to enjoy it for another 5 years. When their bodies do finally fall apart and they can't windsurf it could be a catastrophe for the windsurfing industry of course. But are the owners of windsurfing companies cr#$pping themselves about this? Nope, nothing running down their legs, because they are baby boomers too and by the time their baby boomers buddies bodies breakdown they will be ready to retire as well, presumably to roll around naked in piles of money and not worry about the collapse of windsurfing.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
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19 Jan 2008 10:52pm
What the hell are you on about? I missed the baby boomer generation by about 30 years and I am not exactly young anymore.

The boom years of windsurfing was the early to mid eighties. i was a teenager back then and I took it up. A good friend of mine took it up at the same time at the same place. Its sad because he died in 1985 from electrocution. I still remember him.

So you reckon windsurfing is gonna die. Its not going to die. Windsurfing are not like the clippers that were made obsolete by fast coal or oil based transport ships.

If anything kite boarding will die out because of the amount of room it takes up on crowded beaches, plus the stupid behaviour many kiters display, plus the fact it seems to be a ritual form of suicide.

I couldn't give a stuff about mass market appeal. When the mass market depends on idiotic behaviour then they can go and give themselves a big tug as far as I am concerned.

Anyway if you knew anything about the baby boomers you would know they are the first and last generation who will live forever. Long after generation X, Y, Z or whatever are dust, the baby boomers will be strutting around, acting as if they own the place (which they do).


Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
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19 Jan 2008 10:17pm
windsurfing is not really that expensive when compared to other sailing sports. skiffs ,dingys, cats,etc. Theres plenty of used gear around. The guys on the $500 rigs are out there next to the $3000 rigs, nobody gives a rats.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
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19 Jan 2008 10:21pm
Mobydisc said...

What the hell are you on about? I missed the baby boomer generation by about 30 years and I am not exactly young anymore.

The boom years of windsurfing was the early to mid eighties. i was a teenager back then and I took it up. A good friend of mine took it up at the same time at the same place. Its sad because he died in 1985 from electrocution. I still remember him.

So you reckon windsurfing is gonna die. Its not going to die. Windsurfing are not like the clippers that were made obsolete by fast coal or oil based transport ships.

If anything kite boarding will die out because of the amount of room it takes up on crowded beaches, plus the stupid behaviour many kiters display, plus the fact it seems to be a ritual form of suicide.

I couldn't give a stuff about mass market appeal. When the mass market depends on idiotic behaviour then they can go and give themselves a big tug as far as I am concerned.

Anyway if you knew anything about the baby boomers you would know they are the first and last generation who will live forever. Long after generation X, Y, Z or whatever are dust, the baby boomers will be strutting around, acting as if they own the place (which they do).





wish i was born during the DD generation.

Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Jan 2008 1:03am
Richiefish said...

windsurfing is not really that expensive when compared to other sailing sports. skiffs ,dingys, cats,etc. Theres plenty of used gear around. The guys on the $500 rigs are out there next to the $3000 rigs, nobody gives a rats.


Yeah, I bought my total rig, which many people commented on as being pretty good for under $2000. So its hardly an expensive sport.

If you are a beginner you can buy a package off fleabay for less that a few hundred dollars.

I do not know the price of kites and the snow boards they use but I am sure if they a gust of wind lifted them and dropped them on a six lane city road then they will be worth a lot less, plus the fact their owner's life is forfeit.





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