kitesurfing verses windsurfing?

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bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
SA, 924 posts
13 Jul 2007 6:45pm
If i were you i would take just your uncles gear out for a spin just to get the taste of it. See if you like it. You cant realy use sails that old on new gear, however it is more possible to use newer sails on older boards (i think, thats what i did for quite a while anyway). Once you got the hang of it on the old gear in realy light winds (i used to gt up early in the morning to miss the wind as a lil tacka) upgrade your gear. Depending on how much money you have to spend and the kind of gear you already got, that would have to be decided what to get.

I wouldn't go at it alone, defently get someone who knows what they're doing to come out and help a bit, otherwise you'll get to frustrated to easy from doing the wrong things.

Hope this helps a bit.

Bubs
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
13 Jul 2007 5:20pm
quote:
Originally posted by davidf

My unclel has two sails and a boom mast that is in his shed in resnobal condition but about 15 years old. I'm not shore what the mast is made out of because i haven't had a good look but it is heavy do you think it would be a waist of time to get a newish board probably around 75 liter and use this rig?
I am thinking it will not peform well at all, and not realy be sutibal for water starting?



Hhmm..trikky
Good of you unclel to let you have her resnobal sails. They should be fine for learning in and getting the basic. I'm shore the masts is made from fibroglass, that's why this are so heavy.
You would struggle on a 75 liter bord. I think a round 90 wood be more sutibal. A 5.7m would soot a 75 liter bord for wind of 12-20 nots.
Thats my opiniun.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
13 Jul 2007 7:38pm
quote:
Originally posted by The Grinch

Hhmm..trikky
Good of you unclel to let you have her resnobal sails. They should be fine for learning in and getting the basic. I'm shore the masts is made from fibroglass, that's why this are so heavy.
You would struggle on a 75 liter bord. I think a round 90 wood be more sutibal. A 5.7m would soot a 75 liter bord for wind of 12-20 nots.
Thats my opiniun.




Grinch,

Youev bean hangn owt in thees foerums 4 two lnog.....yore brian is staating too dymynish....
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12887 posts
WA, 12887 posts
13 Jul 2007 7:04pm
quote:
Originally posted by davidf

My unclel has two sails and a boom mast that is in his shed in resnobal condition but about 15 years old. I'm not shore what the mast is made out of because i haven't had a good look but it is heavy do you think it would be a waist of time to get a newish board probably around 75 liter and use this rig?
I am thinking it will not peform well at all, and not realy be sutibal for water starting?


So does he also have a board????? If he's got a bigger board you could learn the slow way by uphauling.

A lot depends on the sails, their size and stability. (After all I learnt to waterstart on 25 year old sails!). I disagree with bubs, I'm sure you can use older wave sails on new wave boards, but new sails are much better, and would be easier to learn with.
Old sails don't have the windrange of new sails, but if you've got old 4.2 and 4.7 that should give your windrange.
Wouldn't hurt to try them anyway.
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
14 Jul 2007 9:05am
windsurfing is better because it takes alot more time and practice, so it keeps all the kooks that don't like to try too hard to learn a sport on kites. widsurfing is more aggressive, takes more balls to do a backie or back roll as they call it, "why don't we plane out of all our jumps" i get asked all the time "because we are falling out the sky, not just being sucked up there and floating around" i say back to them. and the last reason, because were not gay lol. na seriously kiteing has it's place, it's in lighter winds where there is nothing else to do, as soon as it reach's 20 knots put it back in the car and rig up..
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
14 Jul 2007 3:55pm
Firstly David, don't try and learn on the Derwent on a 75L wave board. Get your dad to drive you and your gear to either Ralph's Bay (Lauderdale) if it's blowing from the west, or Pipeclay Lagoon (Cremorne) if its easterly to southerly. Here you can learn in shallow (knee-waist deep) water with a sandy bottom, and at worst you get blown back into the shore. Chances are also high you'll meet some other local sailers (or me) who will give you advice in the typically friendly Tasmanian fashion.
The Derwent does get big waves, if you are sailing at Sandy Bay or anywhere south it's a few K's wide and gets some good swell plus wind waves out in the middle. But if you don't know how to turn around or waterstart you'll be visiting our Kiwi cusins before you know it.
davidf
davidf
NSW
21 posts
NSW, 21 posts
15 Jul 2007 9:30pm
My uncle dose have a board but it is huge it has a senter board and no dout would be good to try on. I have been lining him up for more than 6 months now he's a bussy man.
I would be learning at flat water locations but as I said earlyer I am intrested the fact I can do it in close locations that means I would lean at the beaches. Bellerive or Sandy Bay to learn the basics at least.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12887 posts
WA, 12887 posts
15 Jul 2007 8:24pm
Your uncle's board sounds good for learning the slow easy way, by uphauling, but may not be that good for learning to waterstart.

Whatever you do, one of the differences between kiting and windsurfing, is with windsurfing you have to learn everything in both directions. Just cause you can do something one way doesn't mean you can do it in the other.
So if your learning to waterstart, make sure you practice both ways.
And remember this when you start jumping.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
15 Jul 2007 11:00pm
I was 'loaned' a 3.3m "bogged-up" 'Tyronsea' with dagger (centre-board), to start with. The dagger was good for stability, but if you have a surfing, or kiting background (I didn't), you won't need it. The problem was the size, although I was also lucky enough to have a crack on a starboard GO....The combination of enjoying the ride on the 'old-gear', and realising that 'new-gear' is so much better/lighter/easier, sold me on the sport.
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