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Created by Leech > 9 months ago, 19 Oct 2008
Leech
WA, 1927 posts
19 Oct 2008 3:13PM
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Was sailing with Greenroom & WINDY MILLER yesterday just north of Hilarys. Miller & I both saw a shark. After comparing notes on what we saw and a bit of research it seems to have been a white pointer!

The dorsal fin was 40-50cm and the shark looked big! Are there any experts who can convert that to full-shark length?

At the time it didn't worry us - figuring it was a reef shark or something - and we continued sailing, trying new stuff and falling in etc. In hindsight we probably should have headed straight back to the beach!!

easty
TAS, 2213 posts
19 Oct 2008 7:15PM
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You probably sail near big sharks all the time, but just don't see them.

poor relative
WA, 8965 posts
19 Oct 2008 4:30PM
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Its the ones you dont see that cause the problems.

mineral1
WA, 4454 posts
19 Oct 2008 5:19PM
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Leech said...

Was sailing with Greenroom & WINDY MILLER yesterday just north of Hilarys. Miller & I both saw a shark. After comparing notes on what we saw and a bit of research it seems to have been a white pointer!

The dorsal fin was 40-50cm and the shark looked big! Are there any experts who can convert that to full-shark length?

At the time it didn't worry us - figuring it was a reef shark or something - and we continued sailing, trying new stuff and falling in etc. In hindsight we probably should have headed straight back to the beach!!


Whale migration season, October November, they hang about for these, and the number I spotted last week at the Gloo, reckon there are a few sitting out there waiting for the migrating pods
Consequently I fall in heaps and tend to limit play to safer waters this time of the year.

Greenroom
WA, 7457 posts
19 Oct 2008 9:27PM
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Did you see the report on 60 minutes tonight?
Great whites stick their head out of water to suss out the area and plan of attack
Thats why those parasites with kites buggered off so quickly. I thought it was because they got stuff all waves because we were out

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:29AM
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easty said...

You probably sail near big sharks all the time, but just don't see them.

That is why although I can waterstart, I prefer to uphaul and get going quicker.

Steptoes Son
QLD, 88 posts
20 Oct 2008 12:54AM
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Leech.
How far out were you? I was at Pinnarro Pt and thought I saw somthing "fin like" but figured it was just the paranoid heebies getting to me, looking into the sun and all.

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
20 Oct 2008 9:17AM
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This is a 2.3m Great White which was brought in at Mermaid Beach on the Gold Coast late last week. It was dragging a buoy from the shark nets around close to shore when a life guard spotted it.









Not huge, but still big enough to take a big bite.


DavMen
NSW, 1455 posts
20 Oct 2008 10:28AM
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If all white pointers where made to drag buoys, they would certainly be easier to spot!

stribo
QLD, 1626 posts
20 Oct 2008 9:33AM
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Wow thats well north for a white

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
20 Oct 2008 10:55AM
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Leech said...

The dorsal fin was 40-50cm and the shark looked big! Are there any experts who can convert that to full-shark length?


Far from being an expert, but I've seen a few whilst fishing.

The biggest I've seen up close (and I mean close!!! my wife gave it a pat when it came up next to our boat!) was approx 5m long, and its fin would've been around 60cms.....so I'm guessing somewhere between 3.5m - 4.5m long?!?

As PR said, the ones you see, you generally don't have to worry about, the sharks are smart hunters, and prefer to 'ambush' any fast prey, although the inquisitive ones are just as deadly, they'll 'mouth' you to find out what you are, then swim away casually.....unfortunately, this can be fatal.

I must admit, I'm not overly scared of sharks....but have enough respect to let them have the right of way....the same with road trains!

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1809 posts
20 Oct 2008 11:00AM
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You now how shark's got their name?

First words uttered by a surprised swimmer in a rather excited response.....

**....f*ck........from there on referred to as shark!

Susie
SA, 835 posts
20 Oct 2008 10:43AM
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In the last few days there has been 3 (different) reports on the metro sa coast of 5 metre whiteys, chewing on fishing boat motors and circling and eye balling the boats. Its just that time of year.

WINDY MILLER
WA, 3179 posts
20 Oct 2008 8:22AM
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jeez dave. after seeing the pics of the dead one above, i'm 90% it was a white...the dark triangle dorsal and dark back going into a silvery mid section.

judging by the speed it was going i rekon it was on the hunt 4 a sea lion.

i saw it about 50m back from the wave break,,,side on through a building wave..... where dave was spending a lot of time in the water after practicing backies

there around u all the time, seen 2 fins at pinaroo b4, but never as clear as this.

Gonewindsurfing247
WA, 943 posts
20 Oct 2008 9:23AM
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It was around this time last year that 6 metre GW was hanging around Safety Bay.

Wet Willy
TAS, 2237 posts
20 Oct 2008 12:43PM
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WINDY MILLER said...

jeez dave. after seeing the pics of the dead one above, i'm 90% it was a white...the dark triangle dorsal and dark back going into a silvery mid section.

judging by the speed it was going i rekon it was on the hunt 4 a sea lion.

i saw it about 50m back from the wave break,,,side on through a building wave..... where dave was spending a lot of time in the water after practicing backies

there around u all the time, seen 2 fins at pinaroo b4, but never as clear as this.




Geez, will you guys consider sailing somewhere else for awhile? Nobody wants to read a headline like "Windsurfer taken by Great White", or even "Half a windsurfer taken by Great White"...

WINDY MILLER
WA, 3179 posts
20 Oct 2008 9:47AM
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might give it a miss, for a week or two...or go out when dave is practising his moves

thinking about it, the guy fishing in the tinny upwind , probably wasn't doing us any favours if he was chucking burley in.

evlPanda
NSW, 8584 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:10PM
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aus301 said...

This is a 2.3m Great White which was brought in at Mermaid Beach on the Gold Coast late last week. It was dragging a buoy from the shark nets around close to shore when a life guard spotted it.

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Oh, for ****'s sake!

I was already paranoid, now I've got reason to be. And that's exactly where I've been sailing. Hell I spent 10 minutes trying to waterstart/uphaul in a big lull that came through one afternoon.

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:13PM
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Yep Panda, that is within 50m of where I was sailing with you and Mal a few weeks back.

The report said that the life guards were thankful it all happened on a day when not too many people were at the beach, it was windy and a bit cold...hmmm

Leech
WA, 1927 posts
20 Oct 2008 11:30AM
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Steptoes Son said...

Leech.
How far out were you? I was at Pinnarro Pt and thought I saw somthing "fin like" but figured it was just the paranoid heebies getting to me, looking into the sun and all.




we were "out the back" of pinnaroo Pt. later on I was playing around on the inside, perhaps 500m out and while I was swimming the rig into position I kicked/brushed something with my leg. It was flat and a bit slimy. Scared the bejezuz out of me! (much more than the shark sighting earlier)

Wet Willy
TAS, 2237 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:40PM
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aus301 said...

Yep Panda, that is within 50m of where I was sailing with you and Mal a few weeks back.

The report said that the life guards were thankful it all happened on a day when not too many people were at the beach, it was windy and a bit cold...hmmm


Yep, I sailed there quite a bit last year, too. I'd start at Broadbeach and end up at Mermaid...and I fell off all the time, sometimes 1km out!!

I remember one time Mal whacked his face on the boom and got a nosebleed. He said there was a big cloud of blood in the water, so instead of waterstarting, he uphauled and headed for the beach. Sometimes it pays to be paranoid...

nobody
NSW, 437 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:49PM
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Leech said...

Steptoes Son said...

Leech.
How far out were you? I was at Pinnarro Pt and thought I saw somthing "fin like" but figured it was just the paranoid heebies getting to me, looking into the sun and all.




we were "out the back" of pinnaroo Pt. later on I was playing around on the inside, perhaps 500m out and while I was swimming the rig into position I kicked/brushed something with my leg. It was flat and a bit slimy. Scared the bejezuz out of me! (much more than the shark sighting earlier)

Nothing like kicking something with your foot to get you on the board fast.

evlPanda
NSW, 8584 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:54PM
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I'm not sure balancing gingerly while you uphaul is going to help any when they ram you.

It's a shame they don't have arms and fingers to check you out, which is all they are doing when they have a "taste".

So now my equipment list now reads:

helmet
impact vest
harness
booties
knife
spear gun
first aid kit
plasma
flare guns
Roy Schnieder

Gestalt
QLD, 11738 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:55PM
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that one of the goldy justifies to me not going in the surf.

the fish run at this time of year and the sharks follow. time to be cautious for a few weeks.

growing up near bribie in qld there were 3-4 a year caught in the nets out from the surf beach. i've also seen them off fraser island.

Flux
WA, 533 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:00PM
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Did it resemble any of these ........there are some good shots on here sorry about the langauge

By the way there always there best you can do is just watch the sunrise sunset business as thats feeding time for the big buggers.

www.jostimages.com/galerie/sharks/great-white-shark-fin.html

windsurfer44
WA, 243 posts
20 Oct 2008 1:06PM
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my bro and i were surfing bluff in gnaraloo, guy on cliff told us to get out we bailed boards absolutely sh!!!ting ourselves, turned out to be a 4m tiger shark...

md74
QLD, 1064 posts
20 Oct 2008 3:59PM
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that pic is at my local beach, but here is the thing, I was more spooked in the muddy dark water up at Shearwater, its a pretty darn big area to fall off in the ocean and the odds of seeing a shark are quite slim, just get those gybes right is the best solution, and make the water starts super snappy if you cant, but, lets look at how many kiters are in the miami to the spit stretch of the goldy, dangling in the water for a lot longer than us, never heard of anything suss happening.

Clearly if we were part of this animals food source you would not be able to step in the ocean, heap so f people swimming everyday.

Flat water boys you can have your muddy warter with the bull sharks, not my cup of tea that is where I reckon the risk is.

We all surfed out the front at Mermaid the last few days nev er felt like i was at risk any more than any other day.

The sharks are known to be following the whales and feeding on the week and feeble, if we get in their path, well that is going to hurt a bit!

Thats my 2 cents worth.

Pugwash
WA, 5594 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:20PM
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in beer batter, small chips, lightly salted and tartar sauce... mmmm

How long until it's ready Stewie

arancini
WA, 365 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:22PM
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more incentive to make the gybe.

Leech
WA, 1927 posts
20 Oct 2008 2:30PM
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www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/Statistics/statistics.htm#white

This site has some really good data. I found this one interesting

md74
QLD, 1064 posts
20 Oct 2008 4:33PM
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notice the guys in the background with surfboards under their arms!



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