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FangyFin 22 (Woger was wight)

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Created by fangman 9 months ago, 7 Mar 2018
fangman
WA, 798 posts
4 Jul 2018 2:26PM
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Update on the FF22: No good news I am afraid. The castings did not meet Fred's quality control standards and he binned all of them. The problem arose from the the hollow core box being a little too large. As a consequence the gases could not escape quickly enough when pouring, and the result was excessive porosity in the foil surface adjacent to the hollow areas. Fred is reworking the core box and will re pour when he is happy along with a couple of FF18's at the same time. On a brighter note, the pours of all the other sizes went really well, so at long last, I have plenty of 20,24,28, fins available

fangman
WA, 798 posts
2 Aug 2018 10:52AM
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The FF22 is still proving troublesome to cast. Fred re-worked the core boxes to make them a bit smaller, but still had problems with blow out through the side of the foil, which you can see in the photo below.


He is having another crack the core box now and hopes to re pour next week if all goes to plan...

Fred also cast up four of the 3D print done by Nebbian of the tiny FF18 for me. They are in the mail today, so I should be able to have a closer look at those next week.

Swindy
WA, 226 posts
2 Aug 2018 11:24PM
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Lucky I made a couple of my own 22s

nebbian
WA, 6130 posts
3 Aug 2018 4:57PM
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Fred also cast up four of the 3D print done by Nebbian of the tiny FF18 for me. They are in the mail today, so I should be able to have a closer look at those next week.


Keen to see how those turn out

BSN101
WA, 1423 posts
7 Aug 2018 9:17AM
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fangman said..
The FF22 is still proving troublesome to cast. Fred re-worked the core boxes to make them a bit smaller, but still had problems with blow out through the side of the foil, which you can see in the photo below.


He is having another crack the core box now and hopes to re pour next week if all goes to plan...

Fred also cast up four of the 3D print done by Nebbian of the tiny FF18 for me. They are in the mail today, so I should be able to have a closer look at those next week.


Is Fred enjoying the challenge that you have given him. What does his usual pour make?

fangman
WA, 798 posts
7 Aug 2018 11:55AM
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BSN101 said..

fangman said..
The FF22 is still proving troublesome to cast. Fred re-worked the core boxes to make them a bit smaller, but still had problems with blow out through the side of the foil, which you can see in the photo below.


He is having another crack the core box now and hopes to re pour next week if all goes to plan...

Fred also cast up four of the 3D print done by Nebbian of the tiny FF18 for me. They are in the mail today, so I should be able to have a closer look at those next week.



Is Fred enjoying the challenge that you have given him. What does his usual pour make?


I think Fred might have gone past the point of "enjoying" the challenge...
When Fred bought the business it specialised as an Art foundry, so mostly 'one off ' pours. Fred is a Pattern Maker by trade and so I think commercial level specialised tools/ part making etc will part of the business now. In any case he is a very busy boy and I have to wait my turn each time.

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nebbian said..

fangman said..
Fred also cast up four of the 3D print done by Nebbian of the tiny FF18 for me. They are in the mail today, so I should be able to have a closer look at those next week.



Keen to see how those turn out


Nebs I posted a few pics of the FF18 on the other thread:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/FangyFin-MkII-Theory-for-insomniacs?page=12#lastpost

Swindy
WA, 226 posts
7 Aug 2018 1:12PM
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Be patient people, the FF 22 will be well worth the wait. The one I have made from a 24 is my most used and favourite FF and bridges the gap perfectly. I have now achieved 2 24kn hours using it, so the first one wasn't a fluke. Last Thursday I sailed for about 1hr 20min without an off sometimes in quite challenging conditions. In that time the fin only let go once and was rock solid in every jybe. Though I wasn't attempting alphas as maintaining speed was more important I still managed a 23. With the many quite solid weedbergs and shallow water anything other than a delta type fin would have been dangerous. It's also great to be able to say "I told you so" on a regular basis. Keep up the good work Ross, them 18s look great. You better work nights to get one of them in a useable condition.

fangman
WA, 798 posts
26 Oct 2018 7:49AM
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Yay I finally got a chance to quickly knock out and have a go of my FF22. I used the runt of the litter of the castings that had a bit of porosity and two slight hollowed out areas in the foil, so even after some love and affection with the angle grinder it is still far from perfect.
I used with my Koncept 6.6 and vintage Mistral Flow. It was a perfect combo and I think I will agree with Roger and end up with it being my favourite. Good in the chop ,bergs, flawless behaviour and slippery downhill. I know it's poor form to blow my own trumpet and self praise is no recommendation, but I am well happy with this fin!

The video below is a quick snip of U turn and run through some weed.


Spotty
VIC, 1218 posts
27 Oct 2018 11:15AM
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That looks like it's handling some pretty thick weed snot their Fangman

sboardcrazy
NSW, 6358 posts
28 Oct 2018 12:57PM
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Cripes that weed looks thick!

decrepit
WA, 8828 posts
28 Oct 2018 11:08AM
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Cripes that weed looks thick!


Not only does it look thick!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hitting a true berg with a 55deg fin will send you straight over the handle bars, even the ordinary weed will slow you about 5kts at speed, and trying to take off in it is a struggle, unless really powered you won't get planing until you hit a bald spot.

fangman
WA, 798 posts
28 Oct 2018 1:11PM
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Cripes that weed looks thick!



Yesterday the tide was so low, that I had a run where I did not actually see any water at all. It really was like sailing on grass. Smooth but slow and just a little bit scary that hidden in there was a Titanic berg, There are no clear passages through the weed atm like there was last year, so it really needs a bigger tide to work, and be a bit safer.

powersloshin
NSW, 950 posts
28 Oct 2018 5:25PM
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invite a dugong family to stay there for a few weeks ..

that's how I cut mine, its about 20 now, still needs plenty of work ...






fangman
WA, 798 posts
28 Oct 2018 3:00PM
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powersloshin said..
invite a dugong family to stay there for a few weeks ..

that's how I cut mine, its about 20 now, still needs plenty of work ...







Crikey George you gave me a fright! I forgot yours was a 24, and I was thinking I had sent you the wrong size!
Good to see the fin gets its own bath towel. (Tricky could learn a lot from you on how to care for your fins)

YP1
SA, 97 posts
2 Nov 2018 7:47AM
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What are you saying Fanny ? I don't love my FF20? It's like a great sheep dog, doesn't come inside, rides on the back of the ute with no chain, baths its self in the trough while having a drink and does all the running around for you. Just because I don't molly coddle your FF to the same level of TLC as you do I Love my FF, its a dam great workhorse.(Razor Crusher)

So I was a bit premature on trying my FF22, Had been busy and only roughed out the casting with the file, made the tuttle fit the box when Hoppy said Thursday looked good (bugger I was working, then the next crop was not ripe YEA time off) so I drilled & tapped. The cast seemed pretty dam good so bugger it I would give it a crack with NO sanding & absolutely no TLC.

Test results a couple of knots slower in the conditions, slower to get on the plane. Did manage a 21 Alpha in challenging conditions! SO I WILL be getting the sand paper out to get it up too speed, expecting great things from this fin as the FF20 is a ripper

fangman
WA, 798 posts
2 Nov 2018 9:50AM
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What are you saying Fanny ? I don't love my FF20? It's like a great sheep dog, doesn't come inside, rides on the back of the ute with no chain, baths its self in the trough while having a drink and does all the running around for you. Just because I don't molly coddle your FF to the same level of TLC as you do I Love my FF, its a dam great workhorse.(Razor Crusher)

So I was a bit premature on trying my FF22, Had been busy and only roughed out the casting with the file, made the tuttle fit the box when Hoppy said Thursday looked good (bugger I was working, then the next crop was not ripe YEA time off) so I drilled & tapped. The cast seemed pretty dam good so bugger it I would give it a crack with NO sanding & absolutely no TLC.

Test results a couple of knots slower in the conditions, slower to get on the plane. Did manage a 21 Alpha in challenging conditions! SO I WILL be getting the sand paper out to get it up too speed, expecting great things from this fin as the FF20 is a ripper




Sigh...I am half expecting to see the fins mounted on the back of the tractor being used as a ripping plough next...PS loved the Fanny - I am surprised no one else has used that one yet!

For those waiting patiently, the Foundry has just let me know the next pour of FF22 will be mid November.

YP1
SA, 97 posts
2 Nov 2018 7:44PM
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So sorry Mr Fangman, I did proof read & spell check first.
No ploughing just Razor crushing

fangman
WA, 798 posts
2 Nov 2018 11:26PM
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So sorry Mr Fangman, I did proof read & spell check first.
No ploughing just Razor crushing


No apology required Tricky, it's bloody funny from where I sit



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