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Created by olskool A week ago, 13 Jun 2019
olskool
QLD, 1368 posts
13 Jun 2019 5:02PM
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Righto all you wave bandits. Im 110kg looking for a wave board for SE Qld.
Happys / Mooloolaba
What should I be looking for?
Length?
Volume?
Width?
I'm ok on 120litre freeride/ slalom gear.

stehsegler
WA, 2966 posts
13 Jun 2019 6:36PM
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Try Severne Dyno 115, Fanatic Freeware 115 (although they don't seem to do a thruster in that size), Goya One 115.

barbarian
NSW, 208 posts
13 Jun 2019 9:12PM
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I love my SB reactor 112

Nerdburger
NSW, 151 posts
13 Jun 2019 11:37PM
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Mate I'm 88/90 kegs and live my Fanatic stubbie 99L onshore and JP ultimate 102, with 5.7/5.3 for light wind, and waves 12 to 20 knots. Given your weight you need a wave board with 10/15 litres more than your weight. Theirs not much with a proper wave rocker and rails at that size, maybe at best is a FSW, severne Dyno in the 115 size or similar or a custom OES/Carbon art/SSD wave board ?

philn
236 posts
13 Jun 2019 11:18PM
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Severne Dyno 115 - it is more wave biased than the Fanatic Freewave Stubby 115

I tried the Goya One 106 L , it's also a good choice, but if I had to choose between a Goya One 116 and the Severne Dyno 115, I'd still say the Dyno.

RichardG
WA, 2583 posts
14 Jun 2019 12:15AM
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There are also the new Quatro Powerpro 115 and the new Goya Freewave Thruster 114. I haven't seen these or tried these new boards but the Quatro Power Pro 105 from 2018 I do have and sail and in my opinion it is a good freewave board and these new models look cool and slightly improved. Also 115 litres is a good size waveboard for lightwinds. I don't have one of this size but would like one.

www.surfsailaustralia.com.au/post/goya-quatro-2020-windsurf-boards

Also if the prevailing winds are often light, consider the Exocet X wave 129, which might be better for Qld conditions :

www.exocet-original.com/en/xwave.php

www.exocet-original.com/en/news/20160201-first-test-of-the-new-xwave-129.php

Mark _australia
WA, 19212 posts
14 Jun 2019 1:52AM
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I gather if you say you are OK on 120L freeride you mean this is now first time wave sailing?

If so all the FSW recommended are good but what's your other priorities? Cost? If so, its harder to find a turning-oriented FSW when they are about 5yrs old, they've only recently done the thruster thing. Much more care required as some were almost a freeride board.

If expecting really good waves and lots of 20kn you might be fine on a normal waveboard if you get used to it on flatwater and good wind first. If so, 120L NuEvo and 118L Goya Quad are standouts.

olskool
QLD, 1368 posts
14 Jun 2019 6:33AM
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Thanks for all the info guys.
This would be my FIRST venture into the waves. Ive no idea about the different gear for different wind direction,onshore sideshore etc. Ive got a quiver of Ezzy SE.5.0,5.5,5.8,6.5. On the flat water I usually use at least+1m sail than most guys. Will the lil sails i have be ok?
Larger volume board would make sense to me. Swell usually only 3-4ft. Winds 10-20kts.
RichardG the 129 Exocet looks good. At least it'd have some float.
Mark, cost is a major part of the picture.Don't want to spend heaps on something i may not use often. I realize its going to be hard to find a suitable board with such high volume. But im sure there is something lurkin out there.
When i use my Hawk 120 im regularly dredging with the board totally submerged.

hmsgeoff
6 posts
14 Jun 2019 5:58AM
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I'm about your weight and have a had quite a few large wave boards.
The Simmer Quantum 115 is the most fun and forgiving board I've sailed.

olskool
QLD, 1368 posts
14 Jun 2019 8:24AM
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^ dredging on 120 is hard enough. I can't get my head around how difficult dredging when heading out in surf will be. Must be a lot of fancy footwork n balance needed. I've ridden a 108litre board on flatwater in 30kts ok. Actually surprised myself that i could do it quite easily.

stehsegler
WA, 2966 posts
14 Jun 2019 8:19AM
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philn said..
it's also a good choice, but if I had to choose between a Goya One 116 and the Severne Dyno 115, I'd still say the Dyno.


I'd second every thing you stated.

Davox
QLD, 35 posts
14 Jun 2019 12:34PM
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Oldskool, if you want to talk about local conditions and some good boards let me know and I more than happy to help. I wave sail in Caloundra and can pass on my experience and my own board progression. It is difficult to find the right set up and buying a dedicated wave board is not always the right answer. Cheers, Dave.

RichardG
WA, 2583 posts
14 Jun 2019 12:46PM
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Check out this I think this is a good choice for your needs and might just meet the price expectation.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Boards/~lafdf/2011-Fanatic-Freewave-Team-Edition-115-litres.aspx?_page=3&search=EjQ0DoWvNYjtdwsOwWvBpw%3D%3D

Gestalt
QLD, 12082 posts
14 Jun 2019 10:46PM
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my advice is to start using smaller sails for general sailing.

then buy a 140lt+ wave oriantated windsup. put aside planing for a while.

then whenever its under 10 knots and cross shore go waveriding with a sub 6m sail.

the best waves are when theres no wind.

give it a year and then reassess.

billekrub
82 posts
15 Jun 2019 6:09AM
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olskool said..
Righto all you wave bandits. Im 110kg looking for a wave board for SE Qld.
Happys / Mooloolaba
What should I be looking for?
Length?
Volume?
Width?
I'm ok on 120litre freeride/ slalom gear.


For nu-wave sailor, this description fits the bill perfectly, as someone has suggested:

NUEVO - CARBONThe Nuevo is a proven performer. Rather than chase the latest trend or fad, the Nuevo design is a classic. It enables average level riders to do pro-level turns.Available in a wide range of sizes to suit any weight rider. The bigger sizes open up wavesailing to heavier guys, or much lighter winds.There is no easier board to do full-rail turns than the Nuevo. It excels in knee to logo high waves, sideshore to side-onshore conditions. Wide spaced twin fins give the ultimate looseness, making the higher volume boards super easy to turn. This enables the rider to use bigger boards for lighter winds and still lay down the turns they want to do. New fin designs for 2016 make the Nuevo faster, and provide more grip.Carbon construction: Reduced weight and faster response. WHY TWIN FINS?A twin fin configuration is the loosest of the wave board fin setups. This looseness allows a sailor to ride a much bigger board than previously possible, as the board is still easy to turn. Riding a board with 20 litres of extra volume really opens up lightwind wavesailing to any competent windsurfer.Specifically designed for the Nuevo, the fins have increased surface area relative to their length for better grip and longer base lengths to increase drive. COMPAIRED TO NANO/ LOOSER The twin fin design and increased rocker make the Nuevo super loose for maximum angle change with minimal input./ LESS EFFORT The Nuevo is the easiest board to initiate the turn, and requires less effort to push beyond vertical./ WIDER SIZE RANGE Seven sizes from 73 litres to 120 litres.

Some issues or opinions that come up for wave sailing, if you allow me to present them:

1. Getting on the wave not to be taken for granted. I see wave nu-bees slogging around in modest wind on wave boards, when they should be on light wind gear, planing and making best use of their time. Or, I have something to learn?
2. In my own experience if you can turn a wave board well, you can also turn almost anything, even some free ride boards or FSWave boards with almost no tail rocker AND you will be on as many waves as those with years of experience. The extra speed allows you to bank the board more radically and the bigger fins allow you to drive into the turn as hard as you like. But the Nu-Evo might do it all.
3. Second that suggestion to have a good wind-sup with small rig for those days too light to water start. Smooth water, and watch an adept wind-supper catch more waves than anyone else--using a SUP with a paddle makes one appreciate wind-sup much more. There is a great but brief Victor Fernandez video wind-supping at his home break.
4. Loose straps, for ease of exit when getting washed, prevent the occasional broken foot AND allow both forefeet to get closer to the digging rail. I know they teach this in at least one wave clinic but mentioning it to other sailors does not seem to convince them, despite the bone breaks.


olskool
QLD, 1368 posts
15 Jun 2019 9:40AM
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^^ which Neuvo are we talking? Severne or Starboard? Thanks for the comprehensive writeup.

Foghorn
WA, 147 posts
15 Jun 2019 8:23AM
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I would say you would be better off on the dyno .Coming off slalom gear to a nuevo will feel like a schlogg .The guys I've seen ride them in waves seem to do well.

OceanPitch
QLD, 143 posts
15 Jun 2019 1:55PM
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olskool said..
^^ which Neuvo are we talking? Severne or Starboard? Thanks for the comprehensive writeup.


Hey Olskool, there is plenty of good advise above. I'd probably go the freestyle wave option first given slalom background before a pure wave board anda a SUP on lightwind day is good practice somewhere like Happy's this time of year. Given you are in Caloundra I have just dropped a few of my old big boards into SCB. A FWS JP 107 converted to thruster, Nuevo 100L Single Fin and Nuevo 94L...see the team there and you are welcome to take them to try them out and I don't want much for them if you are like them. Send me a pmail if you want any more details/info. Cheers Tim

TAA
SA, 720 posts
15 Jun 2019 4:51PM
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2019 Starboard 103L air.
Fast board that can do everything
And friendly as it's 65cm wide and alot of the volume is around the footstraps.
Thruster setup


Or a Starboard reactor 2017
They did a 112L and 107L
It's a quad and a full on wave board.
More volume around the mast to nose and a party down the back

Both boards have friendly shapes to get into wave sailing

Reactor on left , Air on right

Mark _australia
WA, 19212 posts
15 Jun 2019 5:24PM
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First time wave sailor? Now we know that:

NuEvo- no, no no.
Its very loose. Foghorn is right, if you jump on that from freeride stuff it will just demoralise you.

Reactor - no, no, no. Its loose and a very niche thing that many people didn't like. Well, most people. Same as NuEo, will not be fun to get up and plane

AiR- no, no, no its an experiment in ultra light. Yes earlier planing, but I doubt its durable enough for first time wavesailing. Plus, recent enough it would cost too much. Any FSW from 5yrs ago would plane just as early.

Go with conventional wisdom of a FSW and see how you go, then think about 'real' waveboards.

He said cost is a concern as it won't be used much and its a first trial sort of thing so recommending $2K boards and dedicated wave stuff is a bit silly. It not like he is in 30kn 3x a week either.

A 2011-14 FSW 115L at $500-$800 is the go for sure. RRD carbon-innegra can't go wrong. Likewise with Fanatic Freewave, maybe Tabou 3S (but the latter is a bit more freeridey)

A Dyno would be the gold standard, but again- cost.

olskool
QLD, 1368 posts
15 Jun 2019 10:02PM
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Gday Mark, think im going to try the windsup thing first, as Gestalt suggested. Check my post in the general section. Looking for some advice there as well

olskool
QLD, 1368 posts
17 Jun 2019 6:57PM
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So heres what ive opted for to start. C4 Waterman 10'6" x 32".

Just gotta chuck the mastrack in.



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