maxpwr said..

emmafoils said..

maxpwr said..
I'd love to know how the hatch compares when you get it. I'm currently tossing up between a 5m quest and hatch v2. Speed isn't what I want and it seems that's what frigate v2 is designed towards.

I have both. They are both intuitive to use and have good low end. The Quest has a much simpler bridle system which makes it a bit easier to douse and redeploy and also less prone to tangles. The Frigate has a bit more performance when loaded and turns a bit faster. They are both very good PWs. The bars and harness lines are very different. I prefer the Quest harness line.

Tyvm. Just to confirm, when you say frigate you mean hatch?

Yes, sorry. My comments refer to Quest vs Hatch V2.

It improves by experience, but the grunt is not like a wing for sure. Pull the trigger on a good used V1/v2 and start practicing now then refine on the proper frigate sizes next season?
I don’t know what are your conditions, but the mistake I did was picking a parawing size (4m) based on what I wanted to do(enough wind to have decent bumps…)

The issue, I did not had a lot of TOW. I should have picked a 5m and practice more and when figure it out If i like it or not, nailed down my quiver with proper size. Unless money is not an issue and you can buy a whole quiver?

I’m only 2 sessions in with the quest but I was glad I was using a harness from day 1 or it would have limited my time on the water from getting too tired.



I’m sure as I get better at controlling it things will improve but it also just seems inherent to current single skins. The reviews of the orbit are a contrast.

Jve said..
I really didn't get along with the Quest because of the bad low end, coming from the Frigate v1. I felt like the Frigate had lowend equal to a 0,5m bigger Quest riding them back to back on 3 different occasions.

This seems to be one of the biggest issues with parawings, nailing down the truth. I've seen so many people hyping the quest low end 😂

Low end achievable via a bit of sheeting in on the bar maybe?


Be interesting to see how this low end debate pans out once we have m ore riders on them.

Thatspec said..

WindWaterSailAU said..
Low end achievable via a bit of sheeting in on the bar maybe?

C'mon🤣

V1 Frigate is a different beast to get on foil compared to PR. I prefer the Frigate I have PRV2s which I struggle with. No top end compared to v1 Frigates, great low end and better collapse, redeploy is terrible always wants to fly backwards. Hope to getV2 Frigates soon.

Thanks for the replies regarding the low end on the quest. Still a bit confused about it though as there seems to be some differing opinions. All good I’m not in a rush to get a wave/ downwind wing anyway. Ive got the 777 pt hybrid 4.3 and thought it could be cool to have a single skin of the same size that I use just for wave and downwind thinking maybe a quest, power pack, PRv2 or even a pt skin. Anyway quite a bit off topic.


Does anyone have any fresh reports on why a 5.5 frigv2 is my perfect light to medium wind para? All I want is something with really good low end, really good upwind/ vmg, great top end and wind range and excellent stashing? Does the 5.5 frigv2 fit that description?

Jve said..
I really didn't get along with the Quest because of the bad low end, coming from the Frigate v1. I felt like the Frigate had lowend equal to a 0,5m bigger Quest riding them back to back on 3 different occasions.

I've kinda come to realize each wing has its own personality... +s... -s... subtle differences in technique. Some are outright pigs, but- sometimes you just need more time to figure out what a PW likes before writing it off. This can be an issue with putting toooo too much stock in a review someone hasn't spent much time on, or trying a wing a short time. I have both Quest and PR V2s. Quest in 2.5, 4.5... PRV2 in 3 and 3.5. Out of the box PRs seemed like they have much better getup/ low end. You can point downwind/swell put it low in the window and pump them pretty good. First sessions on Quest I felt the same, little disappointed about low end. But once I figured them out after a few sessions, I'm actually pretty happy with them. The technique is just different... point downwind/swell, but I have the wing higher in the window with less rear line pressure. Feels like it is pulling me more up and forward than the PR which is a more flat/forward pull. In heavy chop swell though, Ive found I can use it to my advantage easily with bigger pumps/hops releasing my board out of the water rather than smaller pumps waiting for speed I use with the PRs.