kiters rescued off mullaloo

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hosko
hosko
WA
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10 Jan 2006 7:05pm
channel 9 news
2 kiters were rescued 1km offshore @ mullaloo beach. no injuries apparently. not good publicity as it was the 2nd story i think hahaha. anyone got more info?
Shannon
Shannon
WA
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10 Jan 2006 7:11pm
Just saw it on the news, bloody Airush cowboys!
mcbain
mcbain
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10 Jan 2006 7:16pm
channel 7 said they helped in the rescue
freekstyle
freekstyle
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10 Jan 2006 7:18pm
yeah i just saw on the news that the channel 7's helicopter came across the kiters and directed the rescue boats to the 2 kiters
anyone else got any other info??
hosko
hosko
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10 Jan 2006 7:27pm
the channel seven guys claim absolutely everything with their chopper. makes them sound like good smaritans that they find a shark? wow! clowns....
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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10 Jan 2006 7:42pm
they were buzzing around the river (perth) this arvo, not sure why
Jarran
Jarran
WA
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10 Jan 2006 8:31pm
Seen guys 1km out at pinnaroo point lots of times, Allways wondered how they would get back in if somthing went wrong.
Now i know, dont think the embarassment or the bad publicity would be worth it...
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
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10 Jan 2006 9:17pm
OK, Truth of the story is this.

Three guys went out to the reef off Seal Rocks to ride some waves, one on a bow kite, had an issue with a relaunch and decided to self rescue. He passed his board on to his mate who was riding with him on a C kite. The C kiter put the board on his lap and started to ride to shore, but the board knocked and released his shackle accidentally and by the time he got his bar back his lines were a birdsnest.

The third kiter stayed with the C kiter to offer comfort as his level of riding wasn't up to rescue a downed kiter with board and kite. They were probably 2km out at this stage. I waited on the beach for about 45 minutes before calling the water police as we couldn't see the c kite anymore and were concerned for his safety (big fish out there!).

After speaking to the cops, I was told they would be right out. After about 30 minutes I decided to jump on Tinas kite and race out to offer help as the C kiter was even further out and drifting downwind beyond the reefs at a steady rate. The third kiter was with him the whole time, meanwhile the Bow kiter was slowly chugging back to the beach under his own steam albeit slowly and was quite relaxed.

I checked on the bow, he was OK, so went off after the other who was a long way further out and downwind, at this point the Channel 7 heliwankers appeared. I reached the kiter and grabbed his board and started heading to the beach, then returned to find the third kiter bodydragging them both in, so I grabbed the kite and harness and took them both back to the beach. I went back out to see how they were going and they indicated they were OK. They had travelled a good distance in and were making good ground. At this point the Copper chopper appeared and followed them into the beach the last 500 metres.

I started heading back upwind to the bow kiter who was now inside the outer reef and was pretty relaxed. The Whitfords Rescue boat drove straight past him despite my wild flailing arms trying to attract their attention, a few minutes later they realised they missed the rescue and returned to the bow kiter along with the clubbies from Mullaloo who eventually pulled him on board and saved him self rescuing the last few hundred metres.

The real story should have been Why the emergency rescue services took over an hour and a quarter before they turned up. By the time they arrived, everything was cool and under control. I missed the news but can imagine the bloody story. Probably something like reckless kiters endanger poor volunteer rescuers lives in massive seas and gale force winds. ****ers there was 1.0m seas and 25 knots of wind.

Dont get me wrong, I'm stoked the rescuers eventually turned up but it took well over an hour to see them finally arrive in time to see us all back at the beach.

Conclusion is: If you need help with a rescue at Mullaloo or Pinnaroo, dont call the police or Whitfords rescue, call the Mullaloo surf clubbies. I ought to have done that in the first case, just didn't think it would take so long for the rescue peeps to get their ****e together.

Alls well ends well, nobody eaten and no gear damaged or lost. As for channel 7, I even rang the news room and gave them the real story so they wouldn't sensationalize it, guess it dont matter huh, the news is the news and it sells advertising space so it better be interesting!

Good winds
kitesuffer
kitesuffer
NSW
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11 Jan 2006 12:27am
Darren,
I saw the news and it actually wasn't a beat up at all. Obviously the helicoptor angle was played up (but if soemething worse had happened they may have been more use) but otherwise there was no antikiter spin. I reakon it was good the 7 chopper showed up. Made it a non-story for the other channels!!

Good on you for pitching in. If you'd had a Channel 7 Rashie on you would have been the story. I hope everyone is OK.

m
hosko
hosko
WA
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10 Jan 2006 9:34pm
so once again channel 7 have talked up the use of their helicopter.
just like they did with the shark.
clowns.
good to hear all is well though.
gruezi
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10 Jan 2006 9:39pm
Thanks Kitehard, you are the man
univer
univer
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10 Jan 2006 10:03pm
good to see 7 never let the truth get in the way of a good story
Kitehard
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10 Jan 2006 10:20pm
Hey peeps,

Must give a big hi five to "Oden" the guy on the North who dragged the C kiter all the way in from out back. Trawling along like fish food was pretty gutsy stuff especially seeing as the sharkies would have then had entree and main.

Cheers all,
gruezi
gruezi
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10 Jan 2006 10:28pm
I wonder if the sharkies are feeding in 20 knot plus winds?

I have been told by the ranger at Steep Point, and witnessed such, that sharks are feeding when it is less windy. Aparantly they don't like high winds and go down deep, as do the Spaniards. When it is choppy (10-20 knots), then the Spaniards come feeding and the sharks still stay low; but when under 15 knots watch out!

What a sight it is to see those guys in action!
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
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10 Jan 2006 11:27pm
a year ago i was swimming off cott, boat moored on one of the moorings and saw a chopper going along the coast before it stopped dead in its tracks, next thing the sirens are going off a heli is flying above us with a camera man leaning out the side giving chomping motions with his hands.
go home to find that it was 2x 2m hammerheads, now come on hammers are not going to come and rip you to pieces considering they specialise in bottom feeding.
daggy
daggy
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10 Jan 2006 11:28pm
I was kiting pinaroo today too, saw most of this happen.
Let's not be too hard on the rescue boat taking so long to get to these guys, I'm just thinking It's pretty good we've got someone looking out for us at all - better late than never eh?
Maybe our 'adventureous" kiters might like to think twice before kiting so far off shore again. 25 knts in a southerly!!. Risking thier own lives, and anybody else who comes to thier aid, not to mention the damage to the sport if someone got killed.
It's an 'extreme' sport with the associated risks but ultimatley we've got to make the right/safe decisions to look after ourselves. (I'm sure there were good waves down at brighton )
I think we owe those boaties who made the trip from freo our thanks, ensure they're happy to to it again if it's one of us next time.

just my two cents.
Bo
Bo
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10 Jan 2006 11:33pm
quote:
Originally posted by Kitehard

OK, Truth of the story is this.

Darren big kudos to you for being so proactive and observant. I (on the little Best Grunt) watched these guys head out past me and later saw the 2 C-kites as tiny specks in the distance past the islands, but never even realised that anything was ammiss. Totally blind, since I was having such a ball on the water . As I was leaving, I even stupidly joked with another regular how 'the guys out there' were the *real* Pinnaroo hardcore crew . Must make a point of looking round a bit more in future.

Once again, well done, you're a credit to the sport, as are the other instructors of your school. We're lucky to have you at Pinnaroo.

Bo

PS Gruezi, there's seals on those islands/rocks, 15 or 20 knots, that'd something of perpetual interest to the men in grey suits.
pezza
pezza
WA
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10 Jan 2006 11:40pm
In my expirience fishing and living up north most of my life sharks will feed in any wind conditions as long as they are hungry, you can put a a live bait in front of a shark that isnt hungry and it will just circle around without to much interest, but if it is hungry it will grab it before you can blink. people dive out by seal island in calm weather without any probs,
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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10 Jan 2006 11:41pm
quote:
Originally posted by Kitehard





Conclusion is: If you need help with a rescue at Mullaloo or Pinnaroo, dont call the police or Whitfords rescue, call the Mullaloo surf clubbies.



BE SELF-RELIANT

Seal Island is an outer reef offshore wave break.

I'd suggest any kitesurfer wishing to ride at Seal Island be correctly geared-up,
and fully prepared for equipment failure.
Swap the twin-tip for a surfboard so atleast you have a board that you can paddle.

Handy Tip by Slave
RayQ
RayQ
WA
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11 Jan 2006 10:05am
Was told that the two guys went out to 3 mile reef and it was the 2 Insructors.
Any comments on that?
waveslave
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11 Jan 2006 10:36am
Dear Kitehard,

I'm sure you wouldn't want to make a habit of it;
(but is it rude of me to ask)
why you didn't use your kite-school boat to assist in the rescue of the three kooks ?

regards,
slave
Kitehard
Kitehard
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11 Jan 2006 11:03am
Hey 'Slave,

Glad you asked. Due to the excessively strong winds ie 20-25 knots we choose not to do lessons in this wind speed as our smallest kites are 6m. For us, we feel safety is more important than the money and we enjoy kiting in 25kn + winds too much too.

With no lessons, comes no trailer, with no trailer means no boat . After yesterday, I'm thinking that we might bring the boat down at all times whether we are teaching or not to help others out. Truth be known we have never used it to rescue one of our students, but have used it many times to rescue other kiters and their boards more than anything else. We do this for goodwill and as a courtesy for kiters at Pinnaroo. Half of the time we are stopping lessons mid way, using our fuel and only occassionally get a 6 pack.

To RayQ, the riders were not out at 3 mile, they were riding the waves at Seal rocks. In the interests of protecting the riders dignity and save them from further possible embarrasement on a public forum, you will notice in my post that the riders were not named, and they shall remain so. If you were in their shoes, I'm sure you would appreciate the same courtesy.

Good winds to all,

pezza
pezza
WA
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11 Jan 2006 11:12am
one of the things I love about kitesurfing is the adventure, one thing that I hate about this forum is people always want to point the finger at other people RAYQ who cares who it was the main thing is that no one was hurt. People do adventurous things all the time things that risk their safety, whoever it was that went out there was certainly not the first people to kite out there and they probably wont be the last. its just a shame that the news had to get involved if they didnt you probably would never had heard about it.
windburn
windburn
VIC
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11 Jan 2006 2:26pm
Kitehard
Are you really that ignorant. How do you know what other 'jobs' the emergency services were doing before they were called to this situation. Do you actually know how far they had to travel! I bet when your in trouble (I hope it doesn't happen) and do get rescued by these people, you will be the first one to sing thier praises. Maybe if the government gave them more resources they would be able to react faster. I doubt they were sitting around drinking coffee saying that they will get there when thier good and ready. Anyway I personally think they do a great job and appreciate that they are out there.
Kitehard
Kitehard
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11 Jan 2006 11:37am
Hi Windburn,

Dont get me wrong, I am stoked that they finally made it out. I don't know what the volounteers rescue boys were doing, but the fact that they were the Whitford sea rescue boat which usually is moored in the Hillaries Marina was the first on the scene, it just begs the question, why did it take so long? I am sure they were elsewhere on another rescue.

quote:
Dont get me wrong, I'm stoked the rescuers eventually turned up but it took well over an hour to see them finally arrive in time to see us all back at the beach.


I actually know the policeman personally on the Water Police vessel and he phoned me personally to let us know they were "tied up" after the incident and thats why they sent the chopper. Even the chopper took 75 minutes and arrived too late to do anything.

I'm just really glad the guys weren't fending off sharks or that they had lost their kites altogether. Know what I'm sayin? I am grateful they turned up and will always be supportive of the Sea rescue peeps, they usually do a great job.

Funny how the news team were on the spot lickety split though. They are the ones I'm pissed at.

Good winds

windburn
windburn
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11 Jan 2006 2:56pm
Hey Kitehard.
I totally agree with you about the media. They monitor the radio and seem to have the resources to just drop everything and get there, unlike the rescue boats which are under funded and resourced. It happens at any major event, the media are swarming over the place usually hampering rescue efforts, generally getting in the way to get the perfect shot. Maybe if it were thier family they might change thier tune.
All I'm saying is that don't bag the emergency workers because who knows when you might need them. I'm sure thier doing the best job they can in the conditions they work in.
gls
gls
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gls gls
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12 Jan 2006 12:54am
I think its an incredible bonus having Kitehard's boat at the ready. Its a service I would value highly if kiting Pinnaroo. Its a dam shame that he has to fund it off his own good will. Perhaps if we were better organised like the yatch clubs we could collectively afford a rescue boat to be standing by. If everybody clubed in it would cost peanuts. Isn't a local site group meant to be being organised like Melville and Pelican Point?

As for the delay in the rescue boat arriving, whatever the reason it just wasn't quick enough. I'm glad it it wasn't me waiting out there that long.
Graeme
user
user
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12 Jan 2006 5:10am
Kiehard,in reference to you bringing your boat when not teaching.

That is a good idea. Its good advertising etc.

I have always felt,that kite schools that teach at a spot have some sort of duty to help at all times. After all,you probably have ex students out there. You benefit from having the spot as a kite school.

And ,how much more fun is it kiting when you know that there is a rescue boat available ?
lauriew
lauriew
WA
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12 Jan 2006 9:07am
Just my 2 cents worth,

Kitehard, the location you are talking about is Little Island and it is a part of the 3 mile reef so technically RayQ is correct.
In addition always remember that being rescued by volunteer sea rescue is more luck than anything else. Had no-one notified the police they would never have shown up, sometimes they still don't. I personally have rescued a surfcat sailor about 2 miles off Ocean Reef marina who was sitting on his upturned cat looking for his drowned father in law for 2 hours. Whitfords volunteer rescue had been informed twice by a member of the public on the marina wall and had responded by saying "they capsize all the time". It was 1.5 hours before we sailed past and saw the guy and rescued him. We maydayed and had the news chopper within 10mins, the cops about 5 mins later, whitfords rescue about 10 after that and then 5 or 6 other boats. The choppers found the body within 10 minutes of arriving at the scenem so imagine if they had responded appropriately 1.5hrs earlier. I can also say that they never treated the cat sailor for shock or hypothermia, they just chucked him on the back of their boat and powered back out to the search site. It was pretty poor form.
I don't have much respect for Whitfords Sea Search n Rescue and I certainly would not rely on them rescuing me if I was in danger. The best bet is to sail with others that you can rely on and always have a self rescue plan in place. Sail within your limitations and think your decisions through when something goes wrong. As for "users" reference to having more fun when a rescue boat is available, I think thats a pretty irresponsible attitude unless the resuce boat is there specifically for your rescue.

Lauriew
kiterpilot
kiterpilot
WA
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12 Jan 2006 10:05am
Darren is a true ambasidor in our sport, but I dont see why he should use his boat, his fuel, his time to rescue others. He did I very good thing and people should learn from it.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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12 Jan 2006 10:21am
These kooks who kitesurf Seal Island (aka Little Is) need to take responsibility for their actions.

Many polesurfers won't wavesail Seal Is. because of the risk of breaking a mast,
and then having to face a horrendous paddle back dragging a broken rig.

If you intend on kiting outer reefs, you need back-up and a Plan B.

BE SELF-RELIANT.

Regards,
Slave
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