Do as I say, not as I do ... near death experience

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ianyoung
ianyoung
WA
649 posts
WA, 649 posts
10 Jul 2007 11:26pm
Monday 9 Jul @ Lancelin took some family friends kite flying on back beach - SSE side-shore 13-16 knots fairly steady after lunch for more than an hour.
Jealously watched some jetskis towing into seductive 3m waves and decided to go for a spin thinking that if the wind dropped or swung help wouldn't be far away with the jetskis and the family friends on the beach.
Hauled ass upwind and caught some beautiful waves about 350m out and 500m South of Eddie Island then somebody turned the switch - wind dropped and swung! I managed to keep the kite flying and started body dragging back towards the beach - I wasn't going to make it - heading straight for Eddie through a few nasty breaks. I called out and signalled to the jetskis and the beach - even after my kite fell out of the sky but relaunched it 5 or 6 times over the next 30mins there was no help inbound.
Most of the reef North of Eddies is pretty nasty until "Hole in the Wall", especially with a 3m swell running - so that's where I figured the best place to try and get in through the outer reef.
45 mins later I couldn't even keep the kite flying and no help in sight. I wound my lines up but decided to keep my kite inflated to make it easier for people to see me. I started to swim my gear in through "Hole in the Wall". I dragged my gear for about 30 mins and wasn't getting anywhere - the current running out from the gap in the reef and 5 knot offshore wind were taking me out to sea. I was about to pack my kite up to minimize wind resistance when a big set lifted me up and the apparent wind ripped the kite from my grip - I decided I would lose too much ground chasing the kite as the sun was now getting lower and still no sign of help.
I still had my board so I started swimming across the current trying to find a place where the current wasn't pushing me out to sea and the 3m waves weren't going to dump me on shallow reef. At this point I still felt I just wasn't making any ground, I was getting tired and mentally I was preparing myself for a night of drifting clinging to my board.
I didn't want to give up yet, so I battled the current for another 45 min or so until I finally caught a big breaking wave, held my breath and held onto my board as hard as I could ... at last I was through the outer reef in ... and still in one piece!
I started to get leg cramps, the sun was getting lower quickly now, even inside the reef there were currents I was now having troubles swimming against - I could see the jetskis being pulled up onto their trailers on the beach 300m away - the sun was very low directly behind me, they couldn't see me ... I was stuffed. Another 45 mins or so I dragged myself up the beach near the jetty just before the sun set! The friends had eventually called my wife to ask "how long does Ian usually go out for?" The police arrived as I got back to my car - no search had yet been started.
I am one lucky boy - I post this for other's to learn from my stupidity - no matter how good it looks don't go out in an offshore wind unless you have your own safety craft right there with you.
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
10 Jul 2007 11:47pm
Wow. Thats lucky mate. And like you said, stupid. the sports dangerous enough.

The better we get the more chances we take, until something happens.
GranG
GranG
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
10 Jul 2007 11:54pm
mate, that is one hell-of-a mental commitment to pull through!

I would also crappa my pants from the fish!
robbo
robbo
WA
306 posts
WA, 306 posts
11 Jul 2007 1:26am
sounds like you got a few great waves. well done
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
11 Jul 2007 6:06am
Get new "friends" !
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
11 Jul 2007 6:45am
Far out.....sounds like the swell was pumping.
Welcome back. Bet dry land never felt so good
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
11 Jul 2007 8:59am
Thanks for sharing Ian and good to hear you got back in one piece, did you get your beautiful kite back?

Seems to be an unlucky time of year for some people

I know I would have died out there, funny thing is, I am writing my last will and testament at the moment.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
11 Jul 2007 9:09am
really thinking about a boat so we could do some offshore reefs off Perth in Easterlys, problem is someone needs to stay in the bloody thing, miss out on a kite and drool. anyone got a spare boat for summer?
Ioz
Ioz
WA
495 posts
Ioz Ioz
WA, 495 posts
11 Jul 2007 9:34am
If you had of 'emergancy packed' your kite up straight away, do you think this wouuld of allowed you to make it back to shore more efficiently ?
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:11am
No the current is hard-core. It is an effort paddling in when you have a surfboard, let alone all that water dragging equip.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4110 posts
QLD, 4110 posts
11 Jul 2007 12:27pm
The client I am working for at the moment has what they call the 'Lifesaving Rules', breaches of which result in instant dismissal from site. Mines are inherently dangerous environments and no matter where you go on them safety is always the highest priority and in the forefront of your mind. There are just 9 of these lifesaving rules, and these are easy to keep in the front of your mind, especially when you know you will get removed from site immediately if you break them.

While it could be comparing apples and pears, I would also call kiteboarding 'inherently dangerous'. I figure that if you don't follow some basic safety rules, you take unacceptable risks. What these rules are, well there's no mining company going to kick you off the water if you don't follow them, so I don't really take any of the published safe kiting guidelines as 'lifesaving rules' in the way I follow them on site.

AKSA's 'CLEAR' is probably the best I've seen, but it leaves a lot to individual interpretation:

CLEAR

Conditions
- Wind strength
- Wind direction
- Always keep downwind area well clear
- Waves, tides & currents
- Consider possible changes

Look
- Before you launch, land, jump, jibe, etc

Equipment
- Always pre-flight check
- Use a kite leash
- Use a quick release on anything you hook into
- Practise using your safety systems regularly so that it becomes instinctive
- Never exceed manufacturers specifications

Attitude
- Always seek and listen to local advice
- Don't exceed your limitations
- Use judgement to prevent situations, not rely on skill to try and get out of it

Respect
- Others - be considerate and courteous to all other water and beach users
- The law
- Fellow kiters - follow right of way rules
- The environment

IKO's Safe Kiting Rules are pretty crap in my opinion:

1. Never kiteboard with on shore wind.
2. Kiteboarders must never launch at less than 60 meters from obstacles.
3. Check weather forecast before every session.
4. Before rigging and launching, kiteboarders must evaluate the force of the wind and use an appropriate kite size.
5. Use functional safety systems.
6. Do a preflight check before each session.
7. Never over estimate your skill level.
8. Always wear a helmet, a life jacket, a harness, and a wet suit.
9. Do not go away from the shore at a further distance than the one you can swim back from.

Though I like that there are 9 of them, like the lifesaving rules.

Anyway, to cut a short story long, I consider the rule:

quote:
Originally posted by ianyoung

no matter how good it looks don't go out in an offshore wind unless you have your own safety craft right there with you.



one of my own personal 'Lifesaving Rules', and would suggest to anyone who asked my opinion that they do so as well.

My two bob. Glad to hear you made it back Youngy.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:41am
Jeezuz Ian - scary stuff. Way too close to the edge.
So glad we got to read your story here. Im sure many others wouldnt have made it.
My buy next time I see you

ps - hey gruezi can u leave me ur hat
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
11 Jul 2007 11:06am
Sorry Puppet, I'm going to be burned wrapped in my kite with full gear on, including hat.
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
WA, 680 posts
11 Jul 2007 11:50am
I went out at eddies on a SE about a month ago.

There wasn't a great deal of swell but nice waist-shoulder high clean waves were far too attractive to pass up.

I dropper the kite in the wave zone after a little lull in the wind...and then of course the kite bowtied. A few waves came through pushing the kite towards me (now on the 5th line), which resulted in the lines going slack. There was enough of a lull to get some tension in the lines again from the SEasterly. Somehow I managed to get the kite back up without any tangles before a nice set came through.

Was it worth it? For the 3 waves I got...absolutely. But I won't be doing it again unless I have a boat or maybe a kayak on the beach.

Can't imagine what it'd be like with 3m waves though!
rusty7
rusty7
QLD
504 posts
QLD, 504 posts
11 Jul 2007 2:39pm
Kiter Dan ....."kayak on the beach" ...good idea. I got in the **** last week (Kitesurfing,General,Thanks yesterday Scaborough)but I am lucky to kite with good blokes who bust their arse to help out anyone who is in trouble. It wouldn't hurt to have my Kayak on the roof rack though.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
11 Jul 2007 12:43pm
quote:
Originally posted by gruezi

Sorry Puppet, I'm going to be burned wrapped in my kite with full gear on, including hat.


LMFAO
CAUTION
CAUTION
WA
1097 posts
WA, 1097 posts
11 Jul 2007 2:12pm
So is there a doona floating around the ocean up for grabs now?
costly exercise Ian.
Scary and costly.
definately makes ya think.

the other thing is the fact that we all go out at scabs in dead onshore gusty crap and the possibility of us ending up on the new beach cricket structure is high.
yet we still do it without thinking.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
11 Jul 2007 4:34pm
Freaky close call Ian. I don't think I would have survived that.
We give all of our students a copy of AKSA's Safe kiting guidelines at their first lesson as well as a list of kiting 10 commandments-Compiled from crossing AKSA's list with IKO's list. Bit more common sense approach.

It seems to be working. Sometimes I have to read it again to see how many times I risk my safety to go kiting.

http://www.kitethrills.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=10+commandments.pdf&tabid=78&mid=415
coreyb
coreyb
WA
463 posts
WA, 463 posts
11 Jul 2007 2:52pm
Scary one Ian. Hate to go against the grain though. If you let the waves wash you in over the reef near Eddies you probably would have been better off. It might be shallow, but I doubt you have been smashed into it. Might have been a better option than swimming against a solid current pulling through the pass.

Not sure if the first bomb on the head would be much fun though.

And to Ry, thats the exact reason I wasnt keen to go out the Island with no Jet Ski in the Easterly.
cores66
cores66
QLD
41 posts
QLD, 41 posts
11 Jul 2007 5:24pm
Ian,

I've learned from you experience.
Thank you.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
11 Jul 2007 4:07pm
I'm a little confused ?
You foolishly kitesurfed in offshore wind on an outer reefbreak in big surf without watercraft buddy-backup ?
WRONG.
And your reasoning at the time was.....
If the wind shuts down, it's cool.
Those jetskis (who don't know I exist) will save me.
lol.
The plan was flawed from the start, man.

But you know that now,
and you're big enough to admit it.

I've been in a similiar situation myself (but the wind was cross-on).
I tied all my fag gear to a craypot float and swam an hour to shore.
It's funny,
once you dispose of all the clutter, the solution to the problem is crystal clear.
Ioz
Ioz
WA
495 posts
Ioz Ioz
WA, 495 posts
11 Jul 2007 4:35pm
And that what can happen - people can be so focused on saving there gear they forget to save there lives.

This has been responsible for a lot of injuries and deaths in kitesurfing over the years.


Last thought that goes though their head :

(I don't want to drop my kite in this 45knt squall - I'll see if I can ride it out) - as he gets lofted to Kalgoolie >>>>>>>>
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
11 Jul 2007 7:51pm
Get some good mates an dont kite alone in heavy conditions, well done mate on the big swim
Samb0
Samb0
270 posts
270 posts
11 Jul 2007 9:44pm
Nice to know you are safe and well after that harrowing experience. Thanks for sharing that with us. It is possible to get into life threatening strife kitesurfing when you throw caution to the wind no matter how good you are. You live to kite another day. Good on you Ian!
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:04pm
its lucky you are fit as 50% of the kiters i see could not swim 100m with out freking out and thats on flat water
winter is a time of training for the summer ahead
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:26pm
a kayak to rescue kites in 3m lanno? That's more hardcore than kitesurfing the place in an offshore.
A good boat is perfect for kiting offshore. The IKO has a procedure to safely rescue kites, including how to approach them, as well as how to launch a kite from a boat.
Anyone got a cheap Zodiac?
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
12 Jul 2007 12:13am
I can hook people up with a quicksilver with a 5 horse power I think they are both advertised separate for $800 let me know I'll investigate tomorrow...
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
12 Jul 2007 7:39am
Quick Silver Inflatable Dingy For Sale
2.5mt
3-4 Person
Good Condition
$850

Ph Vicki 95814710 or 0439995507

AND

Mercury Outboard For Sale
5hp
Hardly Used
Excellent Condition
$850

Ph Vicki 95814710 or 0439995507

Don't contact me as this is all I know. There are photo's that the seller could email....I don't have a clue if they are a good buy or not the photo's look like they are brand new.

It looks like a good setup for an instructor or those that intend kiting in the situations highlighted in this topic.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
12 Jul 2007 10:26am
Ian,
thats some serious water time
I can imagine the currents, whitewater etc in a 3m swell out the back there even with a balmy offshore. most people would not have made it out of the situation you were in unless they were very fit and very good swimmers. think I would have taken the consequences of going through eddys and getting rinsed over the reef, although thats a pretty heavy inside section there on that size swell. the hole isnt exactly soft either.
good lesson though.

LAGO - late afternoon glass off
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
12 Jul 2007 12:41pm
Worth carrying Pencil Flares attached to the back of your harness?

You could waterproof the case and it would help in those emergency situations where you need help.

Alternatively, if someone pisses you off on the water, you could use one of them to blast a hole through his canopy.
havox
havox
WA
148 posts
WA, 148 posts
12 Jul 2007 1:08pm
im glad its not me posting "near death kiting experiene" this time glad your ok mate. did you get your gear back and what kite did you loose? i wonder if it would be covered under insurrance if you lost it out to sea...
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