peace i eat humble bie

if that flys in no wind ,it is going to get people sitting up & taking notice.
what are your prices

You were just one the website, go up the top Click "home" then click "kiteboarding" down the side, you can do the rest cos i dont want laurie deleting this for being commercial e-mail us at [email protected] for any more questions relating to sales. Anything else we can answer in here im sure

Peace

Unbelievable ........... even still
Hey I wanna a peace of this
Passing thru Geelong on Tuesday 14th and back thru again on the 20th.
Can I a book a test drive here on the internet ... Pleeeese
Its gotta be +3kts on at least one of those days

On 2nd thoughts Y dont you bring it on down to W'bool on the 18th/19th for the BIG smokers vs the BIG winders kite challenge weekend
Even better ! Hows about I pick it up on my way thru & return it on my way back - Id make sure everyone gets turn ... promise

dachopper,
Please tell me what kite you use for light wind. An '03, could it be a Rhino 20m.
I tested the hellfish today and was very very impressed. What makes your kite so much better than newer kites? I am in the market for a new light wind kite and if an '03 is better than any of the newer kites maybe i could pick one up second hand and save myself $1000.

ARROW OUT

Hey peace,
13m in that wind !!!!
Nice vid im surprised how far he went upwind on that last tack. Finally the proof for everyone. Windmeter and all.
BUT
There will always be the small Anti-Best group
Cant wait to fly it tomorrow

Goodwinds
Matt Snowdon

I'm not affiliated with any other brand what so ever just to be clear, just can't stand by as a kiter who looks after his mates and watch the genuinely interested ppl get suckered by the hype and convinced 10 kts is actually 3, and 30 kts is really 15... But You've just said how genuine you are and your own facts don't even add up?? it says upwind in 3.5 kts on the websight, it shows a picture saying 5 kts with your 100% correct measuring device still in the ground effect zone by the way,half way up a hill??? in an updraft?" 5 kts is what.. i guess almost double the wind your claiming it to be going upwind in
but:

"BOM said 10kts so thats the max it could ever be"

I can't believe a kiter of 14 years experience knows nothing about BOM , their measureing device accuracy, their credibility, or about localised wind patterns AND claims falsely again I assure you that BOM don't magically get the strongest wind in the area at thier wind measuring device, 10' off the ground, probably inland aswelland is never 100% right all the time. Well I'm not as experienced as you but clearly your not stupid, and you know all this stuff allready, and you just make up this crap to get people interested and to have a look.. that's why i opened the post, i was just dissapointed that once again Best are involved in making wild incredulous allegations about their "do or die" $2000 kite

My kite cost me $700, that's all I'm saying, and a best in the same size is $2550, but if you can get going upwind in 3.5 kts on a 13, you may aswell buy a best hellfish 9, go upwind in 6 kts, and be able to hold it to 35/40 kts... that will be their next claim to fame of course, Im sure they will post some more hand held wind meter readings, with footage of the 9 on 6 kts and 40, and every1 will believe them too

chop chop I'l give you the more accurate wind that kite would have been experiencing up high... Now if you've studied meterology you would know about the little fact/phenomen that wind slows by 30% and back's by 30 degrees when it comes into contact with the ground...

so 3.5kts would have been realy 4.55 knots up high...

regards browneee

Hey hung long you're a pilot hey?

Why don't ya chop the wings off ya plane an cover the fuselage wit some cuben fibre and do some stunt work - yeah I'd like to see that

If you insist... I can educate you in the ways of the wind... I guess first you have the gradient wind which is like the " overall wind flow" that usually extends from 0-3/4000 feet up to 40,000 feet. At each 1000feet or so, there are non-uniform pressure changes everywhere that actually cause the wind to vary in strength and bearing usually by up to 30 degrees, and 30 kts per 1000 feet, but they can be up to 180 degrees out and have larger strength changes 40 kts.. below 0-5000 feet, you get more of the ground cooling / heating and localised effect , so much so that if the overall flowing winds are light, then the 5000' and below winds are almost entirely " redundant " from the normal pressure gradient flow ie see breeze, or land breezes if you live near some hills inland
so now that we're in the coastal area i guess, you said you walked up the hill right, if your kiting on the windwards side of the hill the onhill, and cross on hill flow will increase in strength and decreas in densitiy where it flows over the top of the hill, and out at about 2/3 that height of the hill into wind is where the effect is greatest.
on the downwind side, it's impossible to tell what the wind is as there are downdrafts, wind wrap, and mountain waves, all sorts of gusty / wierd things happening. now on the ground, at the bottom of the hill is where the wind is least as it looses energy when trying to change direction up the hill, and it looses energy the whole time it's climbing the hill, ie where you where on the beach, and on the hill with the wind meter, needless to say, if your anywhere within 20' of the ground the wind is allways loosing energy and these readding are out... no bom sights that i have ever seen are more than 10' off the ground. and some are in silly places like at the tip hills where the wind will allways be in error.

thats still unbelievable that the kite went upwind in 3 kts, 5kmhr, your standing still and you can hear the wind on the microphone, when you walk around the shop indoors, do you hear the wind then? i think not! that's 3 kts, and the video's 10 for sure

Also I think you should give best USA a call and let them know that their websight is in error, as on there it says for a 70ks rider and below, you will need at least 8 kts to stay upwind minimum, and you've managed to do it in 3.5 kts, maybe you could tell them your secret

ok chopper fair enough.... SO when the wind is 3kts on the ground are you going to pull out a 13m??!?! NO. So what you have said has just helped us more, when we feel the wind or read the wind on the ground, its LESS than what the KITE feels YES? yes.
OK so with a regular 13m kite you would be on the ground looking for white caps to even CONSIDER going out on it, with the HELLFISH all you have to do is feel any breeze and your out...There was not ONE whitecap out there.. dont they start forming at 10kts?
Thankyou for helping Chopper i needed that detailed insight.
Please stop arguing, your digging the hole deeper and someones gonna have to donant a loooong rope to pull you out.

Also this footage is taken in corio bay (not open to the sea) and never gets any surf, what you see there is the very small and frequent waves a small contained area of water will create.
Just like in Melbourne.

Peace

maybe.... actually the material is quite thin so it wouldnt feel too bad, but the stuff is air tight..mmmm sweaty And they would be ridiculously expensive...

Peace

this is great everybodys balls are full cause of stuff all kiting

this is going to be another warren francis vs the best of the world again

hay brownee its looks like a 25knts swest this sat get the silver foil & get it down to woodies on sat morning ive heard enough of 3.5kts i want to see it in 20/25knts

yes it looks wild.

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Originally posted by iti

hay brownee its looks like a 25knts swest this sat get the silver foil & get it down to woodies on sat morning ive heard enough of 3.5kts i want to see it in 20/25knts

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mate i've got a "DHL" failed delivery slip in my mail box today as I was out flying all day...

I've got 4 days off and I'm hoping my Hellfish is at the "DHL" depot...

regards browneee