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Reply in Topic: F4 SR Mast
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28 Jun 2026 9:32am
It’s good. Really good. Only drawback that I can think of, besides a small weight penalty (and cost), is that small medium aspect foils are more sensitive and requires the A game while riding DW and carving aggressively - upwind no problem.


When going DW, and you get halfway up or higher on the mast, it feels like warp speed. Literally feels like a 20% reduction in drag. The acceleration when needed is always there. Need to slow down a bit? Just bury the mast.


The titanium’foot’ is just wild. It is 90 degree connection the size of an iPhone. Pictures don’t do it justice. No drawn out fillets needed. The wings fit snug and perfectly.

I’m super stoked on it. So much so that I just got a Tuttle 85 SR and a F4 Emona. The SR is just so radical, I feel like it deserves a Tuttle. I’m waiting on wind to test it out. If that goes well, I’ll be selling the 80SR and 85AX plate masts.

f4foils.com/products/sr-plate-hybrid-mast?bg_ref=p7EWLsfpSy



MidAtlanticFoil
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20 Jun 2026 11:09pm
For the reverse hook users out there, here’s my latest, smallest loop solution. I used the shortest BRM loop and fed it back though the end loops and back over itself. Basically halved its length.







MidAtlanticFoil
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11 Jun 2026 8:46am


👀 hollow


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MidAtlanticFoil
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7 Jun 2026 3:11am
Yeah, Greg’s harness is great! Just want a shorter one and to have a cheaper option.
MidAtlanticFoil
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6 Jun 2026 5:23am
Here’s my latest mini harness loop for my reverse hook. Haven’t tested it yet.




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5 Jun 2026 8:02pm
Frankieboy said..
I now have a few sessions on the 5.3, riding it underpowered, properly powered, and overpowered.

What I liked:[/b]
- It is very stable in flight, which seems normal given the number of bridles supporting the profile.
- The top-end range is good, but it pulls hard in the harness. I've read reports of people using it in 30-knot gusts, but I still have some doubts about that... At 22–23 knots, I was already maxed out with my 105 kg. The upside is that I'll be able to use it with a smaller board.
- It is very light on the bar. Most of the pull goes through the harness. It's the same feeling as kites with very light bar pressure that load the front lines.
- It pumps like a wing, and for me that's its biggest strength. It significantly improves the low-end range, and since I'm a heavier rider, that's crucial. I even managed to get up on foil while hooked into the harness just by pumping the board two or three times! I was genuinely impressed, properly powered but it was mind-blowing.
- The canopy cloth is incredibly thin and light, but since I don't fully pack the wing yet, that's not (yet) a major factor for me. At this stage, I still carry it by the leading edge with one hand.

What bothered me:[/b]
- The D-bar is not intuitive at all for me. It's great while riding, but for packing, redeploying, etc. it's not ideal. I prefer a regular bar, especially for redeploying or riding one-handed in switch stance, because I can place my hand exactly where I want. On the BRM, the sweet spot is located at the intersection with the "D", which makes things more complicated. I tested the wing with the bar from my Quest, but it doesn't fly as well, especially during gybes where it tends to fall to the opposite side. The D-bar has split A-lines, allowing you to steer and control the wing by pivoting it.
- The harness line: it's positioned right at the sweet spot, but you're forced to use one hand to hook in. I tried the Quest harness line, which is excellent, but it sits behind the sweet spot on the D-bar. As a result, you lose some depower and it's not ideal when riding switch.
- Water relaunch isn't easy. The wing tends to stick to the water, or rather, it easily folds into a ball once it crashes. You often need to get back onto the board before relaunching it. The Quest or the Frigate stay more spread out and relaunche easily, even when you're still in the water.
- The gybe, especially in the low end: sometimes the wing falls to the opposite side. That said, these were among my first sessions. What I later understood is that the wing needs to be kept high during the gybe, rather than into the middle of the window like you would with the Quest, for example. After that, and when properly powered, I was successful almost everytime. I still need to test this in lighter wind and try some downloop gybes.

I'm giving myself a few more sessions to get used to the D-bar and find a solution that makes the harness line easier to hook into. Any tips on that would be greatly appreciated.

The wing is definitely more technical to use than a Quest, but it is also clearly higher performing, with both improved low-end and top-end range. That's when riding it. For staching and redeploying it is not as good in my opinion.



For harness tips, I use a reverse hook (on a dyneema bungee line) with the shortest Brm harness line. It’s nice flying one handed and hooking in since the free hand can place the hook.


I’ve started to mess around with making an even shorter loop so I can use a longer reverse hook line and make hooking in even easier.

tip for one hand flying without harness, grab over the top of the D handle and wrap your fingers around the down facing part of the handle.
MidAtlanticFoil
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1 Jun 2026 12:21am
Had my first 2.7M session yesterday in solid 26mph average with gusts mostly in the 35mph range. 635 Manta F4 foil. Smallest BRM harness line with a reverse hook. Swell chest to neck on the sets.


Absolute beast of a little wing. Extremely easy to get on foil. The S3 provides the nicest steady tension so it’s really easy to pop up to my feet and just accelerates onto foil with very little leg action needed, maybe an ollie or two. The steady tension is huge for getting to feet in swell, a big balance aid for sure.



Going upwind it just points and accelerates. The Brm harness line is perfectly balanced. I didn’t need to micro manage the trim at all. Even going toeside it was just grip it and rip it upwind. I’m a toeside rider, so I basically had to adopt a downhill skateboarder stance with both knees bending forward. My free hand was almost able to drag the upwind water surface. Felt sick!



2.1M is the only one I don’t have, and I think I may want one, just for the epic storm days. The 2.7 could handle the gusts fine, but there certainly was some pressure on the harness.
Reply in Topic: F4 orcas
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31 May 2026 11:45pm
jrc22ski said..
I am currently considering going to AFS, Code or F4.

78 kg, primarily wing in New England 3m to 7m and prefer swell, wave riding however do a bit of flat water. Advancing intermediate jibe well, working on tacks.

Former kit was Axis - HPS and Spitfires.

I know enough about the AFS and Code offerings so wanted to hear some updates on F4 - primarily Orca vs Manta. Stick with only one model or mix it up and if so, Manta's for high winds/waves and Orca for flatter conditions or vice versa.

Thx



I’m 68 KG and primarily parawing the Orca 685 and Manta 635. I haven’t winged them yet, but I’m guessing that the orca would be the better call for winging, unless you are drawing really tight lines in steeper waves. the orca has more glide, which will help you progress on your tacks. it’s also plenty Surfy on its own. you could also pair it with the Surf 120 extra short tail, which is my current favorite .


I guess the argument for the manta winging Would be that you always have the Wing there for power and it might be the better foil for cranking hard turns and not dealing with Wing tip breach, etc. I just had a great PW session on the manta and solid Gorge Like conditions And I felt extremely comfortable on the manta. No fear dropping it on bigger swells pumping over and into them, felt amazing. Topped out at 20 mph on a swell, Which may be a personal best. I’m guessing that with the orca I might’ve been a little bit more on the edge of my seat because it automatically taps into swell energy a bit more.
Reply in Topic: Sinker + Parawing?
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26 May 2026 8:36pm
MeonAsh said..
I weigh 83kg and ride a 68L board to parawing.

The reason why is the bumps i ride are usually not big or powerful. So I want a really efficient and reactive board for pumping.

I have a 6'8" x 19 x 92L board, i rarely use it because it is way harder to pump.


Yeah exactly. My old 55L is the same ratio (82% of my 68kgs). Even bumping up 3” and a couple liters to 85% ratio board is a noticeable increase in size and feel. The inability to easily grab the board’s nose when going from standing to seated is a major bummer. That alone means more swimming and climbing on the board after a botched start or stall off a swell.
Reply in Topic: Sinker + Parawing?
MidAtlanticFoil
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24 May 2026 12:28am
Tangur said..

ilboarder12 said..
K.I.S.S. method for weight/board volume
>+20= full floater
+1-+19= semi floater
Kg= L is neutral
-1 to -19 semi sinker
<-20= full sinker




The argument I am trying to make here seems to be completely missed.

-20 L for a 50 kg rider is not the same as -20 L for a 110 kg rider.
The board volume under and above the waterline won't be the same in those 2 scenarios.
Absolute values are meaningless.
While % of BW is a much more meaningful and comparable metric from rider to rider.


Exactly. Anytime someone talks about their experience with a specific literage and they also list their weight in kilograms, I quickly divide the liters by their weight to get the ratio And then multiply that by my weight in kilograms to get the equivalent board size for me to have the same or similar experience.


This is why people should start Listing the liters difference and also the percentage of their body mass so others can quickly make a comparison to their own weight.