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Yara
Yara
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31 May 2026 2:21pm
I suggest that the authorities need to pick up on these tragedies and provide information on the dangers of putting to sea, or bar crossing, at the same time as the move-on orders. A simple hand out could save lives. A note to say that the vessel does not appear to be safe for sea passage might make the owner think.
Yara
Yara
NSW
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28 May 2026 2:24pm
Super hi-tech stuff. But is it in the tradition of the America's Cup? OK, still the preserve of the super-rich. Maybe we should get the billionaires to race their super-yachts. IMHO I would rather see the old rule 12m boats thrashing it out on an enlarged course which included real offshore weather.
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Yara
Yara
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25 May 2026 11:18am
Slight mystery- photo of the yacht leaving Yamba does not show the dingies. That bar looks awful! The whole situation was suicidal ignorance. Poor guy. Poor rescuers. So sad.
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Yara
Yara
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22 May 2026 5:14pm
Chris 249 said..

Yara said..


Chris 249 said..
Yes, the fact that he had no sails ready to go and was towing even one dinghy shows terrible judgement.
On the other hand, from personal experience a good outboard can be an excellent way of powering a boat even in routine and significant offshore use IF the setup is done the right way. It shouldn’t be ruled out as a realistic way of re-powering an older boat. A good outboard well setup would often be far safer than an ageing diesel in poor condition.








Outboard in a well is a good set-up, the rudder can be behind the prop, plus there is a degree of motor swivel available, so good directional control. I sailed my Bluebird 22 offshore and across bars with that system with no problems. On the other hand, even with the correct set up on a transom mounted outboard, I had an embarrassing failure on the Pittwater bar on a fine, windless day, when the lumpy sea lifted the stern out of the water, the engine revved high, the stern dropped, and the prop hit the water and sheared the safety shear pin. Even though I had a spare shear pin, there was no way to fit it on the water. Got a tow back to the ramp, so no real problem, just teasing from my family. Would be different if we were crossing a real bar.



Actually in my 28’er the outboard wasn’t installed in a well but was (IMHO) well installed as in properly installed - sorry for the poor wording. Having a deeply-immersed outboard (ie an ultra long shaft rather than a long shaft) and a system that allows access to the prop and all other parts of the donk are parts of a good installation IMHO. In my case the OB was on a through-transom mount that was installed on traveller tracks. When not being used, it was tilted and then rolled forward so that the powerhead and prop and all in between could easily be worked on because they were actually inside the cockpit. Because the outboard tiller extended into the pushpit area, there was no steering problem under power because you could steer the outboard and rudder at the same time, spinning like a top and actually making sternway.

No system is perfect but an outboard has advantages like being able to clear the prop easily - something that I miss with inboards because I’m a complete clot when it comes to getting lines around props. Oh dear….



You had a great outboard system. Most are on brackets way past the transom, and not "getattable" from the cockpit without leaning far over the taffrail. Even the spring loaded brackets can be a pain- get the right immersion when down, then you cannot lift the prop out of the water when tilted. Unfortunately a lot of after market systems with failed inboards are of the crappy type. Fine for getting on and off the mooring, but no good for a bar crossing.
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Yara
Yara
NSW
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21 May 2026 1:06pm
Chris 249 said..
Yes, the fact that he had no sails ready to go and was towing even one dinghy shows terrible judgement.
On the other hand, from personal experience a good outboard can be an excellent way of powering a boat even in routine and significant offshore use IF the setup is done the right way. It shouldn’t be ruled out as a realistic way of re-powering an older boat. A good outboard well setup would often be far safer than an ageing diesel in poor condition.






Outboard in a well is a good set-up, the rudder can be behind the prop, plus there is a degree of motor swivel available, so good directional control. I sailed my Bluebird 22 offshore and across bars with that system with no problems. On the other hand, even with the correct set up on a transom mounted outboard, I had an embarrassing failure on the Pittwater bar on a fine, windless day, when the lumpy sea lifted the stern out of the water, the engine revved high, the stern dropped, and the prop hit the water and sheared the safety shear pin. Even though I had a spare shear pin, there was no way to fit it on the water. Got a tow back to the ramp, so no real problem, just teasing from my family. Would be different if we were crossing a real bar.
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Yara
Yara
NSW
1322 posts
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17 May 2026 3:02pm
The picture tells a likely common story. Someone buys a boat and moves it as-is and with limited knowledge. Note he has no sails hanked on, so relying totally on outboard. Crossing a bar towing two dinghys already a hazard, not only from getting pulled into a broach, but also from the painters fouling the prop. Next, transom mounted outboards are terrible in a seaway, they bounce out of the water, lose traction, and can shear the prop loose. No drive means a certain broach on a bar. Add the fact that even when the outboard is operating, there is little directional control when you have the propeller behind the rudder. Dont know what the state of the tide was, but given that the rescue craft flipped, probably was not the best time to cross what is known as a tricky bar.
In summary a tragic case of insufficient knowledge and experience. Had he had some sails and stayed out at sea, he might have survived.
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Yara
Yara
NSW
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14 Apr 2026 2:31pm
If you can get an Investigator 563 they are a safe little yacht. Some in WA might be missing the centreboard, but they still sail, just pointing is not as good.
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