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20 Oct 2026 3:51pm
cammd said..


Pulled into Mackay today and spotted her on the hard as we were having a pizza for dinner.





Thanks for the pic. Shame the relevant bit isn't visible
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julesmoto
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19 Oct 2026 2:51pm
Toph said..
I couldn't care what was adopted as a safe standard, but currently in calm waters as I mentioned above, the current accepted rule of thumb is scope = 3 times the depth. If you come into a crowded or restricted anchorage, how are you to know someone has laid out 10 times the depth? That boat is swinging on an arc over a much larger area than the rest of the anchorage that's adopted a predictable rule of thumb, and in my opinion has become the danger.

If you are sailing in an area where that has never had to be considered then power to you, I am envious.


Never heard of 3x being safe. 5 to 7 more like it. I certainly wouldn't sleep anywhere on 3x.
julesmoto
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17 Oct 2026 4:04pm
Kankama said..
I don't have Navionics, but what is a community edit?




Did one once myself on Navionics when a reef was not where it was supposed to be on the outer Barrier Reef.

Also made use of a very useful one at 1770 last year where the sands constantly shift and hence the passage in. A local fisherman has marked the actual latest channel with a series of what looked like walking fisherman which confused me at first but saved me from running aground.








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julesmoto
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14 Oct 2026 9:59am
PacificStar said..
in the pacific we floated our anchor chain .

our friends irelene & brown on "Blown Away" explain how it's done here


this minimises damage to the coral and the chance to foul a bombie, but nothing can eliminate completely

cheers,



Chris 249 said..

julesmoto said..


PacificStar said..
in the pacific we floated our anchor chain .

our friends irelene & brown on "Blown Away" explain how it's done here


this minimises damage to the coral and the chance to foul a bombie, but nothing can eliminate completely

cheers,





Unfortunately this looks like a recipe for getting somebody else's keel, rudder or prop tangled in your chain



Plenty of experienced cruisers do it, so it seems to work.

Hope I never run into them with their concealed underwater hazard chain scores of meters from their boat
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julesmoto
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12 Oct 2026 1:33pm
PacificStar said..
in the pacific we floated our anchor chain .

our friends irelene & brown on "Blown Away" explain how it's done here


this minimises damage to the coral and the chance to foul a bombie, but nothing can eliminate completely

cheers,



Unfortunately this looks like a recipe for getting somebody else's keel, rudder or prop tangled in your chain
julesmoto
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7 Oct 2026 6:52pm
Get a delivery skipper ;)
julesmoto
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6 Oct 2026 9:09am
I've got a plb in my inflatable life jacket and I could probably wear it without a life jacket although I generally don't. I figure it's $400 well spent especially considering all the other exorbitant costs of owning a yacht and my advancing age. It's the ultimate plan b.

When I bought my yacht I didn't pay any attention to whether there was a swim platform or not and 99% of what I looked at did not have one. I came across an extremely rare ns38 which had a proper swim platform 18 inches long as a permanent extension to the hull and bought that particular boat for reasons completely unrelated to the swim platform. I now don't think I could do without one. It makes getting things on and off the boat from hey dinghy so easy including yourself and passengers. Obviously it has major advantages getting back on the boat if you are in the water and I would hate to be getting back on board without it. If you have the option then get a boat with one. My Clubman 8 trailer sailer also has an open transom. It may end up saving your life and also extending the age at which you are still capable to get on your yacht and sail. Not that I'm at the latter stage quite yet thankfully.
julesmoto
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1 Oct 2026 10:55pm
shaggybaxter said..
Sounds like a rudder let go and flooded the cabin. Man, I feel for him.



Fairly obvious point of weakness in a yacht so I'm of the firm belief that there should be a water tight bulkhead around that area.
My yacht originally did not have one but I installed one.
Interesting that it went down by the bow if the hole was indeed in the stern area especially considering the weight of the motor.
julesmoto
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25 Sep 2026 7:41pm
So has anyone done a community edit on Navionics to keep others safe or do we just talk about it on here.
julesmoto
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18 Sep 2026 11:02am
EastCoastSail said..


I think the diagram and story is excellent. I think if you have a good understanding of how your boat heaves too it might be a really good method.


I’m going to give it a shot , but practice a few times first without the lee shore.

It appeals more than my current single handed method when caught anchored against a Lee shore. Put the engine in forward at low rpm with the auto pilot bearing on to the anchors position. Then running forward and lifting the anchor with the windlass in pounding chop, hoping you synchronise the anchor breaking with the boat coming overhead, and having enough rpm to maintain the heading . Always an anxious task.





Still think it is going to be heavily dependent on how much rode you have out at the precise times you tack and how well the anchor is dug in and the particular floor that it is dug into as well as the chop and wind conditions which determine how much the bow is bouncing up and down.

I think the diagram and the explanation is overly simplistic and certainly not something you would want to try on a lee shore for the first time or in an unfamiliar spot at any time. It's good practice to tack up onto your anchor to release it however.

Certainly heaving to is something to be practiced in any and all conditions as every boat is different but unless you are very close to shore it's sometimes hard to know how much the boat is still moving and in what direction.

Each to their own I guess and I used to sail into my marina pen halfway down an arm back in the day but with me on the helm and (often) main plus someone on the foredeck to back the jib at an appropriate time. Illegal now but anything that improves your boat handling skills can't be a waste.

Would never suggest this as a maneuver to be used for the first time without extensive practice as appears to be the case in the story. The story makes it out to be so simple that the yacht practically does it by itself. Pretty negligent implications I think. Maybe it was dead calm water and eight knots of breeze but this should have been noted and have come with a warning.


julesmoto
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18 Sep 2026 10:49am
MAGNESIUM said..
Sailing engineless this situation comes up regularly, even if it’s not a lee shore the bloody boat makes sure it charges straight for the land.
most times I start bringing in the chain as the tide is coming in letting the boat do the work breaking out the anchor.
i have found if you pull in to much chain it snubs the bow and you don’t get the benefit of sailing on both tacks.
Up goes the main but I leave it loose sheeted .
i hank the jib on and pull it up ready to be back winded to pull the bow around or to hold the bow down.
as she sails on the chain I pull in the chain on each tack..
none of this is easy no anchor winch all chain rode and a massive over size Manson supreme, its unbelievable how attached you get to your anchor gear when 70kt winds blow through and you have no engine.
i have a A100 Spade anchor made up as second bower with chain and 100m of 14mm nylon rode.
I never go to bed without putting in the third reef , I did away with lazy jacks so putting in the third reef also helps manage the sail on the boom and if high winds are forecast the storm jib is hanked on ready to go and the main sail cover is taken off.
many a yacht has been lost trying to motor off a lee shore and getting ropes caught around the prop or just when you really need the engine it won’t start.
you certainly have to be in tune with the elements wind and tides I find it blissfully peaceful and satisfying (rewarding)
and less of a hit to the wallet.


So you don't have an engine?
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julesmoto
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18 Sep 2026 10:39am
You still need a survey but did you ask the owner for the survey from when he bought the boat and also the last survey he had done for insurance purposes?

Any bulking on these requests is suspicious.
julesmoto
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17 Sep 2026 1:37pm
Seems a bit of a weird technique to me which relies upon sailing to windward at some particular angle up onto the anchor the first time with the anchor somehow holding and the chain pulling tight to put the boat about once without breaking the anchor free but then on the next iteration on the opposite tack after pulling up a heap of chain breaking the anchor free because the chain is more vertical at that point. Presumably then you have to pull up like hell to avoid sailing along with the anchor just dragging on the bottom or perhaps he is suggesting that after the second tack you don't pull the jib around properly and hence you heave-to in order to give yourself time to pull in the remaining chain. Sounds dodgy as hell with minor errors in angles and timing and amount of chain pulled in at any point for the particular boat concerned and the particular wave conditions resulting in failure. Might be a lot simpler to stay put if your anchor is holding.

Seems like you would have to practice quite a few times to determine what angle to sail at and how much chain to have out at the particular depth concerned so as to yank the bow around with the anchor still holding keeping in mind all the time the amount the bow was rising and falling in those particular weather conditions (and hence the propensity to break the anchor out).

Way too many parameters and way too different for every type of boat I would think. Good luck doing it single-handed without an auto pilot even if you get all the other parameters correct.

What's wrong with just sailing up on the anchor as close to the wind as possible while pulling in anchor chain as fast as you can.
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15 Sep 2026 9:34am


MAGNESIUM said..
Any battery with Bluetooth is a potential bomb.



Surely you mean withOUT



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15 Sep 2026 9:26am
ralasa41 said..
check out Dumfume 100 amp battery from amazon , also check out Will's review on Youtube,




Pretty normal review about a junk brand with nothing surprising. Certainly nothing derogatory about Bluetooth bms's which are actually essential for safety rather than dangerous.
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15 Sep 2026 9:08am
Madmouse said..











I bought a reasonably expensive Voltx battery and it was crap and didn't deliver anywhere near capacity. After a month or so I got my money back via PayPal.
Subsequently got one from China direct and it has been great. You need some simple/cheap capacity testing equipment and you need to know the brand of the BMS. I opened mine up to check but not by wrecking the case like Will does. If the BMS does not have Bluetooth you don't know what's going on so I would never buy one without Bluetooth. Not just a Bluetooth BMS that tells you basic parameters like average voltage overall but rather the voltage of each cell and hence the variance. A good bluetooth BMS should give you the full charging and error history;



ability to change a whole heap of parameters as well as forcing a top balance etc.
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14 Sep 2026 6:24am
cammd said..

Chris 249 said..


KaneK said..



cammd said..
That's a sorry story for sure.

I would be putting a new anchor on the shopping list before replacing the sail.





If you don't know how to set an anchor , the quality of the anchor is irrelevant




A lot of the time yes, but as someone who has recently swapped all my anchors over to modern ones it seems that they will often hold even for people who don’t know how to set them.

Commiserations about the damage, I’ve seen a couple of delivery skippers who seemed quite low on sailing skills.



I am often relying on mine to reset itself with every change of the tide.


So what are you using?
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14 Sep 2026 6:21am
MAGNESIUM said..
Any battery with Bluetooth is a potential bomb.


Why?
julesmoto
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12 Sep 2026 6:36pm
Sad story but there are clowns who are clueless in every profession be it electricians, plumbers, accountants or solicitors.
One of the reasons that I try to do absolutely everything myself. On the very rare occasion where I can't im not afraid to make a pest of myself by asking lots of questions and keeping a very close eye on them.

DIY is not always possible but it keeps life interesting and with AI and YouTube it is getting easier and easier. Caught my friends accountant out recently on quite a big mistake with his smsf by using chat gpt.
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26 Aug 2026 12:32pm
Russian hackers seem to be the best at workarounds.
One marvelous example is forescan for Ford vehicles which includes all the dealer only info and customization tools.
I wonder what they use for navigation.
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26 Aug 2026 9:10am
shaggybaxter said..

julesmoto said..



shaggybaxter said..




JonE said..
That's cool. Always interesting to get a look at that high-end kit.

By they way, your "Queensland" post over on SA nicely illustrates what I was thinking about "something has to give way".....😀







😀😀😀😀
I hope that bloke gave himself an uppercut. I love those cars.
Found a picture of the aftermath of the rock incident. Still hurts me to see this pic, but as this thread highlights, it could be so much worse.











What am I missing? That boat looks fine to me and not the aftermath of anything. Vulnerable looking keel but certainly intact.




Close up for you. As I said, it needed fairing. Ugh.
Finot would get a chuckle over it being vulnerable. The design has been around since the 80's and they've never had a failure.












Ok thanks. Unfortunately your comment on this thread made no sense because apparently it was plucked from a long thread on SA which I couldn't find. I'm still not sure whether this was the pivoting keel which seems to have been mentioned or a regular fixed bolted keel although it certainly looks to be the later. With that cord length depth and hull shape however I doubt that the impact was with an immovable object at high speed.

Anyway to those commenting that there is nowhere for the immense amount of kinetic energy in play to be diverted apart from using the keel as some sort of fuse I must take the side that says the keel must stay on. Falling off often spells death to those below or asleep- especially at night.

The energy has many places to go. I would hope that the bow would dip significantly allowing the buoyancy to create a large wave thereby dissipating much of the energy and following that the dipped bow/raised stern to veer one way or the other causing significant heel allowing some of the original direction of travel to continue with the boat substantially sideways, heeled and dragging the keel (now much higher due to heel) sideways over the obstruction.
An angled first keel bolt so as to be substantially in tension rather than sheer under such conditions seems a great idea although obviously the hull must be also constructed strong enough so that the rear of the keel doesn't punch upwards through the hull or destroy the supporting matrix bond has happens with most modern flat bottomed (as opposed to wineglass/V-eed) production boats.

Meanwhile the vast majority of us must make do with whatever we have or whatever older boat we can afford- hopefully whilst avoiding more modern European production (flat bottomed bonded not tabbed matrix) boats of the Beneteau ilk like the plague. I'm pretty happy with my North shore 38 in this regard. My Clubman 8 is a whole other ball game but then everything on a trailer sailer is light and although it does go offshore it isn't sailed at night and doesn't go beyond the inner barrier Reef where hopefully rescue shouldn't take too long just like occurred in the namesake of this thread.

julesmoto
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25 Aug 2026 1:53pm
shaggybaxter said..

JonE said..
That's cool. Always interesting to get a look at that high-end kit.

By they way, your "Queensland" post over on SA nicely illustrates what I was thinking about "something has to give way".....😀




😀😀😀😀
I hope that bloke gave himself an uppercut. I love those cars.
Found a picture of the aftermath of the rock incident. Still hurts me to see this pic, but as this thread highlights, it could be so much worse.








What am I missing? That boat looks fine to me and not the aftermath of anything. Vulnerable looking keel but certainly intact.
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23 Aug 2026 8:36pm
Seems a bit different from the normal Beneteau disease and also from the way it's sister ship went down as the keel doesnt look to have parted at the hull although I guess you could call that stub part of the hull even though it appears to be quite deep.

From what I can find out online the sister ship had a failure of the internal keep support matrix due to being glued rather than tabbed but the company issued a statement saying that they had gone back to conventional methods and had retro corrected existing hulls using conventional construction which presumably means they were pulled apart and tabbed.
Accounts of the hammo sinking are interesting because apparently there was time for a rescue boat to pull up alongside with a big diesel pump and transfer it on board before the pump proved inadequate and the boat eventually turned turtle after taking on more water.
Hard to see how the boat could remain upright especially with full sail up and only that small stub in the picture conteracting the mast-even if the stub itself carried some ballast.
The keel possibly hung on for a little while possibly by a couple of bolts or a couple of layers of fiberglass before totally letting go and causing the full capsize.
It will be interesting to see the final report although I don't even seem to be able to find a proper report of the sister ship going down despite the fact that it was apparently salvaged off the bottom.
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22 Aug 2026 4:32pm
I'd be happy to help on Pittwater but I don't really see how sailing around Pittwater where you have already been for 10 years is going to fully prepare you for sailing to SA.

About 45 years ago I looked for the worst possible weather forecasts on Pittwater and purposely went out to sea about 10 miles (or down to Sydney) on those days with a crazy mate and managed to scare the crap out of myself a few times surfing giant waves back in past Barrenjoey .

Even that however, although better than nothing, doesn't teach you much about navigation, other more treacherous bars, where and how to anchor up nor dealing with unforeseen situations or hazards specific to geographic areas that you might be forced to traverse or enter. I'd be doing a hell of a lot of reading up and questioning people about planned stopover locations. I was particularly worried about Lakes Entrance a couple of years ago and took a while and a few conversationsto satisfy myself as to the right time/ conditions to go in-and that's just one of many on the way.

On the other hand what is your risk tolerance like. If you never never go you will never never know.

I know it is hard to find a good boat particularly in smaller markets like SA and if you have one then maybe you should just pony up and pay the delivery skipper and treat it as a once a lifetime adventure/ experience which also teaches you heaps and might give you the confidence and skills for other adventures.
Maybe you could commission the delivery skipper just to Melbourne or other location on the way and then see how you feel about things once there. Not much good however chickening out in say Bega and trying to sell your yacht there ;).
julesmoto
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20 Jul 2026 3:23pm
Currently got my boat on the slips and trying to decide how to best protect the prop shaft from fouling.
I have had it suggested to me to wrap it in electrical tape which is a method I have never heard of before. It's a stainless steel shaft and there is a fair bit of it exposed.
Any advice in the next 48 hours gratefully received.