I think u missundersood me im just making an observation, I ain't fur it im again it

Yes DP it is only 1 child, and I agree to a certain point with you too Doover but just remember, we are all human and we all make mistakes. Our interests may differ slightly from our morals but to an extent they are the same. But if we can each just save one child (or just help 1 person) then all the hatred, racism and crap will eventually die out. I know that sounds corny but it is true.
"A ripple in the sands of time will cause a tsunami on the other side"

mytchook, your still at top of the class, cos you picked it in one
Somebody was giving a sh1t And that’s what we are about, we give a sh1t no matter what. Sometimes the endeavour is misguided, but as a Country along with our Eastern neighbours (ANZACS) we care, we always have, and no matter to the day of our dying breath, we will continue to do so.
Oh, and as for how our boys and girls over seas on duty get treated. Just crappy!!! And should they suffer a misfortune doing a job they are asked to do, then the crappy stakes takes a new level of low! no matter who is in Government. Never have, and probably never will, unfortunately.

Dooverlacker said...

..........and areas with no resources or pollitaical benefit get ignored

We went over to Sudan to help out over there, but the militants were too powerful and we were completely out-numbered.

East Timor: not a lot of oil, some but not a lot, and when we went back over there last year it was to try and keep the peace between their government and the members of their military who got fired for their beliefs (got there a little late but just in time).

Neither place has much political gain but East Timor is a neighbour and what was happening is Sudan was just terrible.

Firstly.......mineral, you're a suck!, trying too hard doesn't impress the chicks.......much

Off topic........

Just thought I'd check local wind conditions, and was bombarded with a RuddySpam (I found that it exists on Perth page also!!!)

www.weatherzone.com.au/wa/perth/perth

Something about........global....dribble, dribble.......getting warmer...dribble, mumble!?!

Check it out, (if it doesn't open automatically, it's the small minimised box on the right.)


BTW, I'm not against Rudd, I just don't like seeing political propaganda when looking at recreational sites! (keep it clean!)

Not being able to differentiate between the 2 major parties.....does that make me Bi-political, mum would be so dissapointed!

It's like a turn on the morally corrupt go-kart...

Surely it time for the new kid to av ago, grandpa has soiled his dacks with the BS he's been peddling for a decade and left a bit of mess in the seat though...

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
- Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)


Lets just overthrow the cvnts and make Oz better. Who's in?

Bummer I posted seconds after you Greeny... it would have been very different.

We often disgree with politicians but are you saying none of them have morals? The basic tenet behind invading Iraq, Afghanistan and soon to be Iran and N.Korea is a pre-emptive strike because they are coming for us make no mistake. The former 3 nations have 99% of their populace believe the deserve to die simply because of out religious conviction (or lack thereof).
Same as our involvement in WW1 or WW2.. we took the fight to them as it is too bl00dy late when they've made it here.

Yeah its all about oil blah blah.

How about the slaughter of millions in Somalia when we sent food and the gangs killed people to avoid them getting food (control the food supply and control the nation - The Art of War)? How about the evil cvnts in Angola cutting the breasts off women so they could not feed their babies (thus, less future generations to rebel)? Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, East Timor.
I think it great that we are assisting in being the world's policemen, and we kick the arses of the sick fv^&ers who seek to take advantage (ie kill) others for their own ends.

Rant over.

Just checked the graphs......bummer, might have to vote.....no wind!!!

"Oh and any person who hurts a child on this planet, no longer has the rights to stay.
Ill get off my soap box now."


Just wondering what the cut off age for a child is. 15, 16? Cos in the last war were sending 'em off to fight at 16. And you can join the army at 16 today with your parents consent.

mineral1 said...

Feeling crook in the gutzs, just heard another one of our hero's has fallen in Afghanistan today.

What loss, a huge loss to us all. Heart felt condolence and sorrow to his family and mates.
God I hate bloody war.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sailhack, you have to be impressed with mytchook but, A
Oh and any person who hurts a child on this planet, no longer has the rights to stay.
Ill get off my soap box now.
Greenie, sorry mate we hijacked your thread. Have to admire your beliefs.

Hey Mins dont be sorry this is all relevent stuff. I hate war too. Its very selfish stuff. My anti war campain starts with me trying to have no hatred

TonyC said...

Oh Well, it looks like Rudd is in.

yeah oh yay. eh. Need I comment I think a large proportion of us haven't been around or known the history of politics to make a justified future economic decision *so I believe*

sigh. humbug.

What is the earliest another Aussie election can be called!? lol. but serious qion.

Didnt John Howard say himself that he cannot control interest rates?
Wage increase without productivity increase? In what industry?
Less new developement? Isnt this boom time? The company I work for has over 10 years worth of work.
Union against union? You dont see the teachers union fighting the police union?
Give Rudd a go and we shall see the outcome. If sh1t hits the fan so be it. We will have learnt a valuable lesson.
This is where I stop posting in this thread. My opinion has been forwarded. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves in an orderly fashion.
Oh and one more thing...

KEVIN07

ah damn it, the unknown evil has won

Greeny, A few points:

Interest rates: The government doesn't set them (the RBA does) but the government contributes to the economic conditions that cause inflation and the need to raise them.

Union Competition: basic economic knowledge shows that unions compete against each other. As one gets general wage increases (without productivity gains) the others push the same and you end up with everyone with a wage increase. Great you say - lets just print money to pay them. How it works economically is that everyone then pays more for all the goods and services as a result - the net position in no different - just add a zero to everything. But the downside is that this is inflation - the RBA has no choice but to increase interest rates to keep the money in the country that will start pouring out as investment returns are no longer there. Our home loan interest rates go up accordingly, as do business loans. Less profitable businesses will lay-off the slacker workers (which the unions were trying to help by increasing their wages) and everyone pays more in interest etc. This is why communism does not work - and powerful unions that control government are a proxy for communism. As businesses fail/don't give adequate returns all capital moves offshore - no new capital will be invested within the country and the state has to run more things itself, with higher prices and lower standard of living. Powerful union controlled governments always fail and leave the country in a far worse position - history proves this.

Wages should be purely tied to productivity - pay the individual more that is more productive - he/she deserves it. The same reason people study (and do further study) in trades or professions is to add value. A increased cost without added value just drives inflation.

The Boom: yes we are in a boom - but how many new projects may be curtailed if interest rates and costs rise substantially. Hmmm.

The biggest question I have is why change a government during our current boom times, when we have never had it so good? There is only downside risk.

I totally agree with a lot of the humanist items discussed (humanist is a funny term as only humans have the greed trait) but they are a factor with any government - and require good economic conditions to effect - it's easier to forego something when you have it than when you don't.

The problem with learning the lesson is just that we do learn the lesson, but forget it - and a new generation doesn't have any idea of it in the first place. Hence maybe people should have to learn some basic economics on the big picture before being able to vote.