omg, there are some real {dont want to get banned for offensive language so have to go with the subtle] ****as in the audiences. surely they would have securty to remove them and let the show get on the road.
Don't be so sure about Labour......They've been out of the throne for so many years, I doubt they'll risk losing after one term. Yes, maybe they'll set policies that are pro-union, but I don't think even the unions are 'dumb' enough to jump in 'boots-and-all' and risk losing their seat. If they do, it'd just confirm that Lib were right, and they'll have to wait at least another decade (or 2) to push their politics.
I believe, right, or wrong, that Ruddy's Gov't will be treading on eggshells to 'prove' the voters were right. If he doesn't, it'll be curtains for Labour for a long time, besides, Howard only lost on stupididity on behalf of some of his subordinates, and prematurely blurting out his intention to retire, (Costello's reign.)
Don't be so sure about Labour......They've been out of the throne for so many years, I doubt they'll risk losing after one term. Yes, maybe they'll set policies that are pro-union, but I don't think even the unions are 'dumb' enough to jump in 'boots-and-all' and risk losing their seat. If they do, it'd just confirm that Lib were right, and they'll have to wait at least another decade (or 2) to push their politics.
I believe, right, or wrong, that Ruddy's Gov't will be treading on eggshells to 'prove' the voters were right. If he doesn't, it'll be curtains for Labour for a long time, besides, Howard only lost on stupididity on behalf of some of his subordinates, and prematurely blurting out his intention to retire, (Costello's reign.)
don’t be so sure, libs got a thrashing , even if the labor mess things up, it will take two election cycles before libs could be viable again to be back in office, one reason being Costello will be leader for next round of elections in 2010 (if libs don’t kick him out of opposition leader by poor polling) and after that election defeat if they claw back some ground - 10 seats maybe, then following election will edge them closer with a leader that will be more likeable and fresh for the libs - im thinking Malcolm Turnbal, as things are atm would be there only hope but he needs some more time to gain some experiance.
6 years gives the labor party some scope for major changes socially and economically .. thats assumming there wont be double disolutioms elections...interesting times ahead. Especially for Kevin Rudd if the man in the election is going to be the same man as pm running the labor party full of ministers from the socialist left (ex unions officials) - notice how the scare tactics cant be called scare tactics now the election is over…
THANK F##K, the liberals didn't get in.......can you imagine if Mr "no balls, hand me the leadership on a silver platter ONLY, coz i wont fight for it" Costello; was the leader of this country.
Hopefully kev has got a backbone and can stick to his word.....
ah yeah right.. WHERE is Kevin Rudd going to pull ALL this suggested education funding from ?/ his a$$>????
lol..
nice try mate, but if howard could have done it, he would have. Highly doubt anything will truly improve in education overall! When I see it ill believe it!
You all whine about interest rates, and how wonderful the economy has been since liberal was in power, Yet the last labour government floated the Australian dollar, which was a critical step in the building of a successful Australian economy.
Also regarding the boom, lots of people are saying that it will last the next 20 years, its unrealistic to play the whole lets not change card in that time, because a whole lot of things will change. And besides what is wrong with change, change can be a good thing and it is inevitable.
Interest rates will rise no matter what, because (as a result of the liquidity of our economy and all the money coming in from the resource boom) people are spending more and more money, which drives inflation. The reserve bank will raise interest rates to stop inflation, and this will happen to some extent regardless which government is in power.
Obviously more Australians wanted labour (or didnt want liberal) in power, us being a democracy and all, so how about giving them a chance instead of calling everyone who voted differently than you an idiot.
Thank goodness we live in Australia, and can put up points of view/malarkey/facts on all the happenings re political landscape without reprisal (well slinging sh1t at one another is part of the landscape so that doesn't count) Living in a lot of other places would probably result in a mono-tov-bomb tail landing on ones coit if putting up such viewpoints. The best thing is, a good majority of us will be sailing/kite surfing windsurfing/land yachting/surfing or what ever together, in the next week or so without giving a toss on each others point of view. Somebody years ago said we are a "weird mob" in Aus. Reckon we must be if that be the case then.
f;oating of the australian dollar or not the last labour government has a slightly different record in the history books.
the books about the howard government will most likely show them to be the most successfull governement australia has seen and howard to be one of the strongest leaders our country has produced to date. the former governments list of achievements are outstanding and both sides of politics have said as much in the past 24 hours.
most people got caught up with the union funded scare compaign against IR reforms. which weren't based on any facts. the facts are that due to the new laws work creation boomed and unemployment hit record lows. the same ir reforms that the mining boom took advantage of way before any of the other sectors.
lets not also forget
the countries debt of 96 billion being wiped. unemployment at it's lowest it has been in 30 years. average household wealth doubled. record low interest rates gun law introduction a future fund fta deals tsunami warning system almost continuous tax cuts family law reforms encouraging shared parenting child care rebates recognition to the contributions of carers abolished compulsory unionism introduction of the murray darling scheme to save the river Establishment of the Asia-Paci#64257;c Partnership on Clean Development and Climate with the USA, China, India, Japan and South Korea. (ie. the big players) introduction of laws to stop land clearing $14,000 first home buyers grant family tax breaks child bonuses terrorism laws introduced aboriginal community intervention
and on and on.
i am sure there are also some negatives that can be thrown in there too but the libs really have a large list of successes.
that all said i really do wish the rudd government the best of luck. they have some big shoes to fill and i really hope they fill those shoes to the best of their ability.
I vote if you dont' like it dont read it. It's under general discussions and its a good discussion. Theres no threats or abuse just people airing their opinions. I've enjoyed reading it.
I vote if you dont' like it dont read it. It's under general discussions and its a good discussion. Theres no threats or abuse just people airing their opinions. I've enjoyed reading it.
i agree. that always is the way. I think Rellie was just voicing his opinion too!
Just because i like reading a heated discussion like this[}:)]. I want to bring something up that was elluded to before. Is it time to become a republic yet??? i know we had a referendum on this not all that long ago and if i remember correctly it was a pretty big hell no. I just wanna know the opinion of us free spirited kiting/windsurfing/surfing/sailing types. Keep it above the belt no kidney shots i want a clean fight!!!!! ding ding ROUND ONE[}:)]
Oh my god. I agree with you list but not that one. 10 000 firearms taken from farmers and normal people (semi .22's and pump shotties) and out of that how many assault rifles?? about 100. Now there was about 5 000 SKS assault rifles brought into Qld and Tas in the 1980's... they were $150 each. They got 100 back out of 5000. Yeah, big success. Now those are the ones we KNEW about that never came back.....
>>>> Is it time to become a republic yet??? <<<<<<<
It was time to become a republic many many years ago. Why is a foreigner the head of this country??? Makes no sense at all! Surely Australia has reached maturity by now and can pick it's own head of state from one of it's own people.
On this note did anybody else notice Kev's speech last night when he acknowledged all our foreign partners, think he started with USA then Asia, then Europe, no specific mention of England at all, may be that's an indication of how he feels about it.
>>>> Is it time to become a republic yet??? <<<<<<<
It was time to become a republic many many years ago. Why is a foreigner the head of this country??? Makes no sense at all! Surely Australia has reached maturity by now and can pick it's own head of state from one of it's own people.
On this note did anybody else notice Kev's speech last night when he acknowledged all our foreign partners, think he started with USA then Asia, then Europe, no specific mention of England at all, may be that's an indication of how he feels about it.
the few English immigrants I have spoken too, all (yes all) so far have said its changed so much over there in the last couple of decades when they have returned to visit family and friends, there is no English left in England. I am quite shocked actually how much some bag their country of birth, my sisters been their several years ago and thought it was nice... it’s become very multicultural and when asked they usually say England has lost its common identity. I think it’s to do with the European Union and how England opened its border to migrants to work the cheap low pay skills for the benefit of its economy.
It’s not England anymore as it’s more European union or something like that. Rudd seems like a Blair style leader...bit more of a realist of today’s global economy than some of the other members of labor
"The Howard governments campaign is reminiscent of medieval times when the hierarchy maintained power with fear and superstition."
hey look it's turned full circle.. talking about the queen england and the republic...
I think filthy ameteur hit the nail on the head.We get what we deserve and it seems we deserve Kevin Rudd and we dont deserve John Howard.Ive lived through quite a few changes of government and despite ALL the promises I dont think my life has changed a great deal for the better because of any of them.
Yep, the protection of our great (but not as great as Oz) and powerful (lots more powerful though) friend. There's been a lot of blood spilled in pursuit of that chimera. If only they weren't so gun happy and we weren't so sucky. Time to recalibrate the moral compass I think. Ah, we can but dream...
They are breading their numbers up from within the country as we speak
