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Joe Cron
Joe Cron
NSW
450 posts
NSW, 450 posts
3 Oct 2010 9:01am
RPM said...


I'm lost for words.... I really am.

Too much money with all the latest gear, not enough sense to get a S**T load of lessons before he 'unleashed hell' onto other kiters and beachgoers. I have seen this exact same scenario in Boracay last Jan. A russian husband and wife.. She was the assistant and the guy had NFI at all.

If anyone witnesses this on a beach it's every experienced kiter's responsibility to at least set him straight and help out as much as you can. It's KOOKS like him that cause accidents and give the sport a bad name.

Some listen some wont. But at least do the right thing and try.


I agree RPM, it is all of our responsibility to keep inexperienced people safe from their ignorance. That said, we can only offer.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
3 Oct 2010 2:59pm
Taurus said...

A dude came upto me on the beach last season asking for some advice on how to launch his 14m Torch on a 9-10m day. I figured he just lacked a bit of confidence, after I explained to him his kite no where near pumped enough - which he corrected. I was about to give him a launch when I realised he didn't have a harness, I ask him where his harness is and you guessed it, "I'm just learning, I don't need a harness yet".

The best I could do was talk him into moving downwind of everyone else, last I saw he was being dragged down the length of the beach.


Hi Taurus, I know it's a pain but in cases like this I think we have to step up a bit more firmly. 14m under-inflated torch and no harness! That's when you put on your most diplomatic and assertive voice and say, "Look, this is a dangerous sport and you're putting yourself and others at too much risk. You need to get some lessons and learn more about how the gear works. I'm not going to launch your kite, sorry, but safety and beach access are too important."

I've said such things very sincerely to a range of people, some much bigger and gnarlier than I am, and every time but two the person has understood and thanked me for the advice. In the two exceptions, the people were sh!tty but accepted my advice. I may well have saved their lives. One noob about my size wanted me to launch his 12m and another a lot lot smaller than me wanted me to launch her 9m when I (pretty experienced intermediate) had just come in for a break after two hours maxed on my 7m.

Appealing to people's sense of self-preservation works. Tell them too that they'll learn a lot by watching on the windier days until they have the right gear and skills.

Melbourne seabreezes are about to start and the kooks will be out in force. Those of us who know better will need to act on that knowledge.

As for the guy in the vid, no sympathy from me. Yes we all have to learn, but there are safe ways of doing it. It's not like information and instruction are hard to come by.
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
3 Oct 2010 12:26pm
I love 2:02 into the clip when he taps the bar.............I still laugh everytime I watch that bit......... Let me try a bar spin because I seen it on a len10 clip.

We need a remix made Bar tapper.....
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
3 Oct 2010 4:59pm
That is the ultimate.

Kook checklist:
Impact vest.
Reel leash.
Waterproof sunnies.
Helmet.
Ghey kite from ghey brand.

Only thing he forgot to pack was the reef booties.

Loved how he flamed the chick out in the water too.

:)
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
3 Oct 2010 4:09pm
Ghey kite from ghey brand.


Define ghey?

What is a ghey kite?

How can a brand be ghey?

Is that a moronese dialect you are speaking??

OR is that you in the video?
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
3 Oct 2010 5:18pm
A ghey kite is anything made by;
Griffin
Blade
Naish
Flexifoil
Takoon
Wainman
Best

These brands are predominalty flown by the kooks.
suface2air
suface2air
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
3 Oct 2010 4:37pm
hey surfingboye s..t iam so happy now ,that you left out cabrina on ya list .TANKS MATE .
kiting kid
kiting kid
VIC
219 posts
VIC, 219 posts
3 Oct 2010 7:27pm
surfingboye said...

A ghey kite is anything made by;
Griffin
Blade
Naish
Flexifoil
Takoon
Wainman
Best

These brands are predominalty flown by the kooks.


u just said Aaron hadlow is ghey
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
3 Oct 2010 4:59pm
oh no...
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
3 Oct 2010 7:40pm
surfingboye said...

A ghey kite is anything made by;
Griffin
Blade
Naish
Flexifoil
Takoon
Wainman
Best

These brands are predominalty flown by the kooks.

your status as a knob has been confirmed
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
3 Oct 2010 5:50pm
Bigwavedave said...

surfingboye said...

A ghey kite is anything made by;
Griffin
Blade
Naish
Flexifoil
Takoon
Wainman
Best

These brands are predominalty flown by the kooks.

your status as a knob has been confirmed



Ha ha Im sure he was just trying to stay in the good books with Santa as Christmas is coming up and didnt want to bag the Cab tree decorations
diginoz
diginoz
WA
317 posts
WA, 317 posts
3 Oct 2010 6:28pm
rusty7 said...

If this dude was on your beach ..... and clearly he is a danger to the public, his kite is out of control and could highly likely hit someone, he is getting thrown around and could hit someone and the blody death leash on the board has turned it into a missile which could do some real damage to some else...... what action would/should you take as a local. He does seem to have a bad attitude so it not gonna be easy to get this guy to give it away when he is clearly not ready for the conditions on this beach. Laurie.. I am sorry but this guys behaviour is not good for the sport. You got to draw the line somewhere. I also just noticed that about half way through this he is in different broadies so either this has been filmed over a couple of days or he had some other reason to change his daks.....lol. Is a classic all the gear no idea post though.
What is the correct way to deal with people like this though.


Joe Cron
Joe Cron
NSW
450 posts
NSW, 450 posts
4 Oct 2010 8:03am
djdojo said...

Taurus said...

A dude came upto me on the beach last season asking for some advice on how to launch his 14m Torch on a 9-10m day. I figured he just lacked a bit of confidence, after I explained to him his kite no where near pumped enough - which he corrected. I was about to give him a launch when I realised he didn't have a harness, I ask him where his harness is and you guessed it, "I'm just learning, I don't need a harness yet".

The best I could do was talk him into moving downwind of everyone else, last I saw he was being dragged down the length of the beach.


Hi Taurus, I know it's a pain but in cases like this I think we have to step up a bit more firmly. 14m under-inflated torch and no harness! That's when you put on your most diplomatic and assertive voice and say, "Look, this is a dangerous sport and you're putting yourself and others at too much risk. You need to get some lessons and learn more about how the gear works. I'm not going to launch your kite, sorry, but safety and beach access are too important."

I've said such things very sincerely to a range of people, some much bigger and gnarlier than I am, and every time but two the person has understood and thanked me for the advice. In the two exceptions, the people were sh!tty but accepted my advice. I may well have saved their lives. One noob about my size wanted me to launch his 12m and another a lot lot smaller than me wanted me to launch her 9m when I (pretty experienced intermediate) had just come in for a break after two hours maxed on my 7m.

Appealing to people's sense of self-preservation works. Tell them too that they'll learn a lot by watching on the windier days until they have the right gear and skills.

Melbourne seabreezes are about to start and the kooks will be out in force. Those of us who know better will need to act on that knowledge.

As for the guy in the vid, no sympathy from me. Yes we all have to learn, but there are safe ways of doing it. It's not like information and instruction are hard to come by.


Nice advice djdojo, and timely with, as you point out, the throng of eager new kiters the summer season will bring to the beach.

Yes, speak your truth, assertively and plainly. "I think you may be hurt, or hurt someone else if I launch your kite today, it would be better if you watched and learned a little that way." from there it's their choice.

I'll remember that, may save some ones life.
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