We dont need luck for the HellFish as this has been 12 months of calculated research and testing...

Well children...

I am very surprised with everyones negative reactions to what could be a great step forward in our sport. It's about time that a real mover and shaker like alex shogren put the wind up the windsurfing companies for sitting on their thumbs and claiming that all their research and developement would cost you premium dollar.

Get lost with your anti best antics... Who is laurie to remove freedom of information. I am sure if airush or slingshot had come up with the idea ryland, you would be talking it up and discussing it at every chance. Fact is they didn't. and Im glad. At this momentous time in our sport we should allow intelligent discussion and reflection! not promote narrow minded criticism.

What we are witnessing is the changing of the industry. In every revolution there are leaders, followers and those who die trying to fight the flow of progression. In the future the best phenomenon will be studied by marketing and sales gurus. Just as proof for the future pioneers of any industry that if you rest on your lorels someone will come along and kick them from under you.

I am afraid just like the baby moses you have been found in denial.

I hope my post doesn't get deleted because it is an opinion and I am as entitled to it as anyone else.

I know its hard to be wrong and easy to be stubborn. I have been both many times over. However the hardest thing is keeping your mouth shut if you have nothing constructive to say.

thankyou for reading and I look forward to your constructive criticism or your cyninical dribble....

Dave...

To bad they edit the video to make the kite look faster then slowed it down to make it look like they had more hang time.

Just for you danger dave..... the oter kite brands come out with new stuff every day. ie;

Slingshot : Machine with ailerons... one pump... one line 5th line system... spreader bar safety/leash system

North : 5th element safety/relaunch system .... and the scepter 1 bar for all kites bar

Cabrhina : continuous Curve Leadinge Edge Leading Edge Tube Closures Enhanced Profiles Wider Wingtips , recon gen 2, pro-span, and pro-span limiter system, and the recon bypass leash

airrush : REACTOR kite , "Welcome to the latest in aerospace technology morphed with hardcore aggression tamed by only the very elite. Built incredibly light, with super efficient entry angles and aerodynamic foil profiles it's all about forward speed and dynamic efficiency" * Extreme performance
* Lightning fast turning
* 5th Line attachment point
* High efficiency foil
* Kevlar reinforced lightweight airframe
!notice the kevlar reinforced frame!

F-one : M5 , semi-elliptic leading edge, desinged around the active 5 fifth line leashless setup, 3 safety systems offered per kite, over 10 years of R&D experience.

and then there's best...... our strip of shiny stuff on the leading edge that has been around since the early nineties .... revolutionises the kiting industry by increaseing the cost of the kite... and magically causing the airframe to be kiteable in 5-8 kts....it's a joke.... there's nothing revolutionary about using a new type of cloth on a kite... that stretches 1% as opposed to 4-5 % for classical materials... I'd personally rather have a kite that flies better, has better features... than some talked up revolutionary to the Best manufacturer only kite the has a small percentage of it made up of a material that is known in the past to have delamination problems when flapping alot... if anything the bar has been set higher by best ... for talking up their shiny kite with rediculous wind ranges, sneaky read the fine print " best kite you'll ever fly" , and haveing absolutely no new tecnologies / innovations in their kite except a strip of some new material... just think it's worth the " real" kite companies getting some commendation for actually innovating new stuff that will prove usefull to us... more so than shiny silver talkitup kites

Hey Chine,
The chrome kite might be a little cheesey but the 'BEST' girls are still hot.

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Why not wait to see the kite in action before you all rip it to shreds, maybe feeling threatened that it may out perform your own brand??

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Everyone of the negative posts I see have not one valid thing to say... If you have anything of concrete evidence or relevance, post it and i'll do my best to answer you...

Highlight's how some people have been sucker'd into the other brands hype and missled into parting with 1000's of dollars for a dacron/ripstop kite... That's why we felt it was imperative to drop the price's of our Yarga, Nemesis, Grunt, Tempest & BFK kite range inorder to show you all you need not pay what the others are charging you...

The HellFish is a window to the next level, there will be those who embrace it and those who are left behind...

@hunglong

have you already tested the hellfish?

Yes this is all due to lack of wind , so here goes .
My thoughts on the design of the hellfish .

Airush came out with the liftpro 3 years ago , and it can be described just like the hellfish is . "super fast turning , can make use of apparent wind because of its speed through the air , built lighter , ect....ect
The thing was that the liftpro had all of these characteristics and it was amazing to use .

The down side was that if you weren't concentrating on the kite the whole time it would get away from you .So it was marketed for experts only as it would overfly you because it could get so far forward in the window and the slightest input on the bar would send the kite and it would deliver power spikes that were great when jumping but were hell when you didn't want them .

Now we have the Reactor and this kite is brilliant because it is still fast but much more user friendly and has combined speed with stability . It is all about being able to handle the power and speed .

Like with cars , ABS , traction controle , steering dampers , suspension ect..ect is where a good car is made , not in raw horsepower alone .

Reading the specs for the HF I don't doubt they have the horsepower

I will also be interested to see if the Hellfish is a new break through or a liftpro in a shiny new look

Its fair enough if you guys wanna be a bit sceptical.....time is the only answer for you.

But I imagine it will be something like this..... ok imagine that all the knifes in your kitchen are plastic (dacron)... sure they will do the job but wont last and takes a bit of pressure to perform. Then some bloody genious comes out and says "hey! omg i found this stuff called Steel! (cuben) its amazing it works so much better and lasts forever!

I predict this will be exactly what the current north naish etc will be like compared to the hellfish... not in the same league.

But i dont like the chances of the "hellfish" only being a little better, it would be stupid of best if this WAS all hype, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

But each to his own....well for another few weeks i guess hehe.

Pete

HI Hunglong,

The Hellfish is meant to be the new revolutionary kite. So does this mean all other best kites are obsolite now? Will this technology flow through to all best kites in the future?

I am just curious to why BEST is doing this now and not launching a whole new range in the similar concept.

Thanks

sorry Uber I forgot to reply in the post above...

No we have no intension to cancel the rest of our best lineup... These kite's play an important part in our product range. Of coarse the HF will be our Top line kite then the rest Neme, Yarga, BFK & Grunt will flow down from there...

Wat it does highlight is the fact you all do not need to be parting with some much hard earn'd dollars for a dacron/ripstop kite...

regards browneee

Yawn... this is so boring, who gives a S#@%t??

If they come up with something revolutionary good on them,(its called progression) history has shown that all the Kite companies are sheep and quickly get on the band-wagon when something good has turned up e.g 4 lines, one- pump, fith-line, spinning leashes, twintips the list gos on...

Unless your a shareholder in an oposing company or a hi level pro feeling a little scared about someone having an equipment advantage you all got nothing to worry about have you?

go ride and stop whining

we'll put it to the test in a couple weeks. can't wait to see if the fish lives up to the hype. I know there are plenty of claims... lets let the thing speak for itself. I agree with you Carl just ride and have fun.
Rich (happy to be on the Best team)

The new Liquid Force M 80 looks like it will be the balls keep an eye out for it!!!