Are any kite Manufacturers still producing multipoint inflation systems?
(is that what they are called?)

The one pump system seems to be of little benefit. Every time I go kiting someone seems to be having problems with parts of these systems, through no major fault of their own.

A light crash and you've got a 50% chance you'll be floating back to shore with some sort of repair to be made. All to save you a minute or two setting up.

The North Rebel (07) I learned on, copped many hidings and never let me down.

How can I upgrade and avoid the one pump?

oldguy said...


Are any kite Manufacturers still producing multipoint inflation systems?
(is that what they are called?)

The one pump system seems to be of little benefit. Every time I go kiting someone seems to be having problems with parts of these systems, through no major fault of their own.

A light crash and you've got a 50% chance you'll be floating back to shore with some sort of repair to be made. All to save you a minute or two setting up.

The North Rebel (07) I learned on, copped many hidings and never let me down.

How can I upgrade and avoid the one pump?

I've had 4 kites with one pump, never had a hassle with one of them. Shockwave, Nova2, Furia, Rev2 - not one one pump hassle on any of them, in fact, I would go as far as saying I won't buy a pump without them.

The one thing that amazes me is how people who have never had a particularly type of feature on their kite blow it away as useless. At least 90% of kiters who have one pump will tell you they prefer having it on a kite. If one pump was that big a problem, the brands without it would be doing better and brands with it would be doing away with it.

Nemi Pro has no one pump, neither does the Bandit DOS if you really want a kite without it.

Do you have it?
Had 04 fuel for two years, never a single problem with one pump
Had 06 octane for two years, never a single problem with one pump
Had 08 Rev for one year so far no problem and don't expect any.

I remember when it first came out there were al sort of knockers

From personal experiance I have had five years of trouble free pumping.
I only ever clip the struts off if kitting in offshore or going further out than I car to swim.
I couldn't imagine kiting without it now, a bit like a car with air con & power stearing

Actually I do have it, I have it on all 3 of the kites I fly at the moment. I'm not necessarily saying it's rubbish. just concerned of the day that a bladder actually DOES go, especially on the Naish.

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D_Meredith79 said...

just concerned of the day that a bladder actually DOES go, especially on the Naish.

Don't worry about that.
You kite every week and enjoy it (hopfully).

Why on earth worry about something that may or may not happen, and if it does it will only be very rarely.

Don't know what the other brands are like but
I have replaced one LE blader on a slingshot, I did this when the wind was not blowing, so couldn't kite anyway.
Having the one pump nipples actually gives confidence that it is in the correct location.
The time it took to put the little tubes back on was more than offset by the time it has saved over the last 5 years.

oldguy said...


I don't buy into the ethos and would prefer multi.

Your'e right, onepump is more hassle than it's worth, besides it's less safe as multi. One leak on a strut, the whole kite goes down and you swim your rig (or perhaps yourself only) in.

I leave my struts inflated in the bag and only have to pump up the leading edge when having a sesh. Bottom line is I'm actually rigged faster than a onepump.

Try out the Best Kahoona or Waroo. Awesome kites, German design (Peter Stiewe) and easy on the wallet. You'll be laughing...

Bo

The 09 Vegas are not one pump if you can get one.

oldguy said...

If you use a one pump and like it, good for you. Happy kiting.

I don't buy into the ethos and would prefer multi.

Ozone took the one pump system off this years wave riding kite, for the reasons already mentioned.

Aside from the 08 rebel. Any other suggestions?

Ozone took the one pump of this years light XC because it is also promoted as there most beginner freindly kite. The thought being that as a beginner and a wave kite it is the most likely out of there range to need bladders replaced due to the abuse it is likely to cop.they acknowledge that it is harder and more time consuming to replace leading edges with a onepump system.Not that the onepump system is inferior.This kite only has 3 stuts so you would be unlikely to notice much difference in setting up time. The other 2 models in the range however both have one pump. The edgr rx has 7 struts. the inconveinience of having to individually pump up 7 stuts and then the leading edge vs one pump is huge!. Personally I have 2 cab kites with onepump and I really like it. I have never had any hassels.

The only design that seems to have had major probs is the octopuss system by naish, also used by best(ezy pump). I think I saw the other week that best have now started using the tried and tested external onepump system used by most brands. IMO I much prefer a kite with one pump if they have 5 or more struts.

all the wainman kites are multipoint not 1 pump takes a little longer but so much easier to fix if you get a puncture.

......and you never will

waveslave said...


The 09 Waroo is multi.
2010 Waroo will be wonpump.
But who's the winner ?
The kiter saves 2 minutes when inflating.....
but loses 5 minutes when deflating.
I don't get it ?????

My SS fuels are no slower to pack up than any other kite. I really want a won pump kite!

hey old guy, I bet you are steering away from those dodgy fuel injected cars? they'll never take off

not all one pumps are created equal IMHO.

The naish system is a poor design in my opinion and they SUCK to work on in the event of a problem (however unlikely all you naish supporters) and the bladders cost big $$$.

I have a SS one pump and havn't owned it long enough to comment

I have had cabrinhas for a few seasons now and have not had any single maintenence issue with the kites. ever.

Bo said...
One leak on a strut, the whole kite goes down and you swim your rig (or perhaps yourself only) in.

Do you know the individual struts can be locked off? Never had a problem with the SS "One Pump". Not slow to deflate, only 1 valve to open..

^^^so how do u let it down?

jackgearo said...

^^^so how do u let it down?

With valves !!!

Kadkhah said...
On the other hand on Naish Cult and Helix inflation and deflation are both fast but as some one else mentioned if one of the struts leaking the whole thing will fall down.

I was referring to this. Maybe the way you wrote it but it sounds like the whole kite goes flat which is incorrect. Only the leading edge goes flat.