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BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
11 Jun 2005 4:25pm
... somewhere in Western OZtralia. finally had enough of everything that's kiting in NZ, both the people and the conditions.... and the freakin house prices!! no way i can afford a place in Auckland so i'm sellin my gear and moving over to Perth or maybe Gero and livin it cheap by the beach.. renting... houses aren't for me.. too much hassle. I'll be able to last without an income for a while and when i run low then i'll work during the winter and kite when it's good of course. I know you guys aren't too keen on winter over there but it's still a darn site better than in NZ! There is more room over in OZ too... more useable coastline per head of population in OZ, especially in windswept WA. I'll be movin overin about Sep Oct time so i can get settled for a summer of 25-30 kt seabreezes. I've studied the windgraphs for Perth... very impressive year round, summers are unreal... green arrows everyday.... i won't have to envy you guys anymore.. OZ really IS the lucky country... only sheep want to live in NZ and as someone on the South Africian forum said ... sheep get waterlogged and sink
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
WA, 680 posts
11 Jun 2005 4:33pm
Q. did you know that the new zealanders found a new use for sheep?

A. Wool

Sorry couldnt resist!

Actually, by kitesurfing law, you can only live here if you dowse your all blacks jumper in petrol and set it a light. You may no longer support the all blacks in any way. Until you do this you are merely an intruder and will be dropped in on in the surf, forced to the lumpy section of our most treasured locations and teased about the size and style of kite you use!


iti
iti
QLD
417 posts
iti iti
QLD, 417 posts
11 Jun 2005 7:49pm
jaffa boy so you want to leave auckland i can understant that
to cold to many people and all day travel to go no where
yes auckland people are astrange lot you can see them from amile away
welcome to the north west island of new zealand
for you i would say supporting the western force rugby team is better than watching the blues
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
11 Jun 2005 9:19pm
Perth is crap dude. The skys are always blue, the wind is strong and consistent .. not good for your skills because you get used to stable wind... go anywhere else where it's gusty and you don't know how to handle it! haha!!
NorthSide
NorthSide
WA
238 posts
WA, 238 posts
12 Jun 2005 9:04am
send it up...
I do agree that Blown Away does not deserve to live in New Zealand if he talks about the place like that, but your comments were a little harsh.
Get used and abused by a Kiwi girl did we? Perhaps feeling a little jealous, insecure and unloved as a child? Perhaps you wished you owned an Underground board?
Somebody has to come over and do some work in this country
Otherwise there would still be no roads for you to even get to the beach.
And what does the warning involve? Why havent you warned me?
You are obviously of indiginous decent to to feel such strong ownership of this country, because if you aren't maybe you should take a good long hard look at yourself before you bag other peoples origins.
Get over it and toughen up princess
tomnewcomb
tomnewcomb
92 posts
92 posts
12 Jun 2005 12:52pm
send it up your a dick
Shannon
Shannon
WA
489 posts
WA, 489 posts
12 Jun 2005 1:38pm
Yeah Midstrength Man it was a bit harsh
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
12 Jun 2005 3:07pm
That's not harsh. I've had a lot more **** thrown at me on kiteforum.co.nz. I will not live in the same country as a pack of wackos that have banned me TWICE from that forum. Hence the reason why i now post as "thrasher" on there. not all Kiwis are jerks, the guys out east that i kite with are an awesome buch of guys without the horrible attitude of the more experienced group up by Orewa. Unfortunately a lot of them are doin the same thing as me.... leaving NZ so i will be kiting solo if i stay.... and i hate kiting solo unless conditions are excellent (a rare thing out east auckland way). for me to get good conditions i have to battle horrible traffic to get to the west coast or Manukau Harbour. Manukau Harbour whilst the wind is good and steady is not a place you want to kite by yourself. These factors all combine to make auckland a pretty horrid place to kite..... I'm one in many people over here who say the same thing... infact I've stuck up for AK longer than most. Infact i got banned from kiteforum.co.nz for doing that very thing..... being patriotic. Infact NZ cops more crap from other kiwis than anyone else ... including Aussies. And now i've just learnt that there is no way i'm gonna afford to live here anymore so in a way i HAVE to move. Anywhere south of Auckland is ruled out during Winter time for kiting as it's too freakin cold.

to top this off the favourite place to kite for me out east auckland way during summer is in danger of being banned. It's the only place that works during summer without me having to trek all the way out to the Manukau Heads (half a day wasted battling traffic).

So no surprises why i've sorta grown to hate the place.... and now that guys from chch have started to diss me I have no remorse but to fully slag the place and it's kiters... if bans start appearing in NZ it's the kiter's fault... idiots from up north screwed it up and come down to our eastern spots and cause all sorts of problems... so yeah i bloody hate the kiters here in NZ. Auckland has only 2 spots out more than 100 that work in summer sea breezes... if those spots go... kiting in summer in Auckland is dead. Hence why i'm heading to a place that has lots and lots of beaches that allways get good wind.

I have no regrets.
tomnewcomb
tomnewcomb
92 posts
92 posts
12 Jun 2005 5:06pm
Blown Away, we'll welcome yah bro, choice eh
kusu
kusu
QLD
485 posts
QLD, 485 posts
12 Jun 2005 7:54pm
Hope it's a true one way ticket - with no stops in Brisbane for example!

Reminds me of a joke (oh come on guys I have a few beers in!)

Whats the difference between a disaster and a catastrophe?

A disaster is a boat load of kiwis coming to Australia.
The catastrophe is they can swim!


But seriuosly, Kiwis are cool. Believe me, I used to live in Bondi in the 90's!

I think the ones we have to watch are those south africans, slowly seeping in and taking over - now they are a problem. Full of advice and themselves in my experience.
There must be good ones - I just haven't met any !
stnkygoat
stnkygoat
NSW
230 posts
NSW, 230 posts
12 Jun 2005 8:07pm
Tena koe, join the other 1 million kiwis living in Ahikereiria! Can't understand how anyone lives in tamaki makaurau (that's auckland for all you people who can't get mai FM) though, especially kiting, with the rain and totally new wind direction every five minutes. You're gonna need smaller kites over in WA. Lots smaller.

And as for all the ozzies expect them to be exactly the same as kiwis, with the odd notable exception - AFL is another world...but other than that, we found them to be more welcoming and generally friendlier than kiwis who have to know you for about 20 years before you get a beer out of them. The kiting scene is pretty relaxed and people are pretty good about helping other etc. In short - good move. I bet you'll like it.
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
12 Jun 2005 7:23pm
The people are worse than the conditions and the traffic is even worse than the people. In Auckland you need a 20m kite in the summer and a bigger board than normal. Sea Breezes are 10-15 knots in the good places... occasionally 20kt+ out by the heads... but it's gusty and the beach out there only works at high tide.... oh yes and another thing about AKs kiting that's worse than the wind... the tides.... terrible! most beaches have no water at low tide as the inner city spots (including the ones that i kite at out east) are all estuaries. The main east facing spots are the opposite.... ok outside of high tide but in summer they SUCK!!! 8-10 knots and no place to park... let alone kite... thank god the winds crap at that time of year. As for the much talked about "kitebeach" that is Orewa. That's the most ****tiest beach of the lot. It's great in a 25 knot NE wind but those are so bloody rare (about 10 times a year). In summer it's crowded and windless (8-10 knots). The meter may say 15 knots but it overreads by 5 knots. People continue to kite there and will eventually get kiting banned on the entire eastern sea board.. the area is rich, expensive and hence the residents are pretty stuck up.

Spring however is not bad... lots of wind but you have to travel out west as this stuff will kill ya in the gusty inner city spots. No amount of wind will take away the fact that you have to sit in traffic for over an hour to get to a beach... it puts me off even on a day off from work.... i feel for the poor sod who wants to head out for an afterwork sesh and has to battle Auckland's overburdened infrastructure. The kiters are horrible. The beginners are ok but they soon become jackasses as they get better... this is probably due to the fact that they get abused by asshole experts when starting out... a vicious cycle of abuse reigns supreme in Auckland's kiting culture.

Oh by the way i did mention that the sea breezes are 10-15 knots in the good places.... there are 2 good places in Auckland for sea breezes, one is 10-15 knots, the other is 15-25kt but involes a 1hr drive through traffic. The 10-15kt spot is on the ban list..

The rest of the country is no better. You can forget kiteboarding in Wellington. Sure it's windy... infact it's too windy. 3 out of every 7 days are too windy to kite in the city. 3 days are what you'd call ok to kite and the remaining day has no wind. That's ok Welly is a poleboarding spot and allways is... and a damn good one at that. The beaches are too small to kite in and the Airport is a huge factor down there. The east coast of the NI is a joke... just like Auckland... no wind during summer... offshore during the rest of the year. Northland has some great beaches and it's probably NZs best attempt at producing a world class kiting spot but there is no way i'm living up there.

Nelson is another option but not as good as OZ. Remember Cindy mosey does none of her kiting in NZ.. her boat is based in Fiji... another place people like to slag.

Christchuch is fast becoming like Auckland. no traffic (there is no motorway down there and they don't need one either) but the kiters are right idiots. The best wind spot down there is not suitable for kiting. The other main spot is the giant tiolet called the estuary.... this is NZs best kiting location!! Yet the summer wind is still crap compared to OZ (far batter than Auckland though). The main beaches in chch are as windless as auckland's main spots (well maybe not quite THAT bad). Oh yes no kiting during winter here either.. it's windless and cold (Auckland at least has ok wind during winter and it's warm enough to kite). People in chch mountainboard, buggy and snowkite.. that water temp is a scorching 5 degrees!!

Dunedin is not suited at all to kiting. It's either blowing insanely hard from the west/south or there is no wind at all. In summer the sea breezes are good (over 90% of the days are 4bt or more) but there is no decent beaches and those stats include 70 knots offshore SW winds as well.. not just the 25 knot thermals.. a poleboarding spot like wellington. Oh yes it's cold AND there are big sharks (at least it has something in common with OZ).

Colac Bay has wind in the entire summer (Sep to March).... blows insane but often over 30 knots... bloody windy.. 50kt not uncommon too much for me. Winter is cold and less wind than summer... and i hate kiting alone.... and there are Sharks there too. Dangerous wind and more rain than in Auckland too (but much less gusty). SW cape is one of the windiest places in the world... too windy for kiting


Of all the places that have access to sea NZ is the most dangerous place to kite... the fact that only one person has been killed here is a bloody miracle (He was hooked in and had no saftey leash so he sorta had it coming)

I'm not gonna miss NZ one little bit... I'd have to take up windsurfing if i lived here for any longer... and even then i'd get the hell outa auckland, back to Wellington where i wouldn't have to deal with any more loser NZ kiters and i'd have more wind than i could shake a baby at.

I'm not as tough as what i used to be... i can't handle the cold anymore. As you know NZ is the coldest place in the world for it's latitude. I know i'm gonna become a wuss once in OZ and less Laurie i think my ability to handle gusty conditions may be severely compromised by the freemantle doctor.. but winter has normal real conmditions with gusts rain squalls etc that will hopefully keep me able to handle gusty stuff.;.. but your beaches are much better over there than they are here so i doubt even your winter stuff will be as gusty as what we get.
stnkygoat
stnkygoat
NSW
230 posts
NSW, 230 posts
12 Jun 2005 10:23pm
Hey, that's not fair, the water temperature in Christchurch can, at times in the height of summer, hit 15C. The easterly blowing across it, on the other hand....

And Dunedin, in the summer, is windy. Freezing, but pretty good wind. And I'm not gonna go nuts here, but your sharks at Colac and Dunners argument isn't gonna hold up with the WA locals. They have big sharks too.

Otherwise, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. And yes, Aucklanders are utter ****ers, and it is a horrible place to live. I managed it for a year, and it took me serious therapy to start calling a coffee a coffee again.
iti
iti
QLD
417 posts
iti iti
QLD, 417 posts
12 Jun 2005 10:25pm
yes blown away , mate you need to pull your head in ( so does set it up)
im a kiwi & i love nz ,
im from wellington & you cant kite what a load of ****e
you have petone on a southerly,you have the kapiti coast 45mins north from wellington .
all kiters i know kite at waikane about 45mins north of wellington-waikane is always 10-15 knots lighter ther wellington
ps blown away i have never heard so much negaitve crap in my life
do you want me to give you arazor to cut your wrists or a tow rope to hang your self
mate pull your head in
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
12 Jun 2005 11:53pm
Yeah, it's weird ay? All those Kiwis and Saffas moving to Aussie? Makes you wonder why an Aussie would move to South Africa. I wonder the same thing myself sometimes. Maybe I just overshot the mark when I too got a one way ticket to Perth last year.
NorthSide
NorthSide
WA
238 posts
WA, 238 posts
12 Jun 2005 10:28pm
Fair comments Iti. I love New Zealand too. Full credit to West Aussie kiters... they are generally laid back, but still find other foreigners, Europeans, South Africans, etc the most friendly. I have been in WA for 9 years and kited here for 3. I had an incredible amount of fun at Raglan harbour last summer when I was there for three weeks (parents live there). What a playground! Flat water, joggles from 6 kt outgoing tide and rather large sand bar breakers to dangle your balls popping off the top of them. A place is what you make of it. I have kited on a lake 2 hours inland from Rockhampton,Qld (Emerald). Wasn't the best session, but made the most of it! I reckon Taranaki (I grew up there) would be pretty awesome too.
If I went to Tariffa, Spain or the likes I would hope the locals are as friendly as West Aussie kiters
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
13 Jun 2005 9:07am
Stinkygoat: I don't think you've read my post properly. What i've posted agrees with everything you've posted. When i mentioned chchs water temperature you need to look at the whole message... i was talking about wintertime, not summer. That fact that it is only 15 degrees is a good thing in summer as that makes the thermals better (cantab plains much hotter than 15 degrees).

As for dunedin in summer... once again i've sung it's praises... i did mention over 90% of the time good wind. As for Sharks... once again i did mention that it has something in common with OZ... the sharks were what i was referring too. i know there are sharks in WA. all the good places to kite have Sharks... Capetown, Maui, Perth... same with the windy southern parts of NZ like Colac Bay and Dunnos.

iti: If you love NZ so much then why are you living in OZ? I'm also from Wellington and yes Petone is a kitebeach... infact it's the only beach in Wellington suitable for kitesurfing. So the southerlies are covered then? What about northerlies/NW winds.. wellies other main direction. 45 min drive to the west coast? That's a long time to be in a car... 2 hrs a day that could be spent getting air with a kite. But with windsurfing you have lot's of great spots in Wellington... that place is just so suited to windsurfing that i wouldn't even bother about kitesurfing if i lived there. I have plenty of razors at home with which to end it all... but thanx for the offer.

greenpat: I also contemplated SA as a destination and it's definately on my travel plans to visit. Capetown looks like a majicial place with lots and lots of wind during summer. however i'm not really into waves, far rather do flat water but of course will check out the lagoon north of CT (is it called Langebaan?). For some insane reason there are lots of SA kiters relocating to NZ.. there arew a few guys that used to live in Capetown now living in Auckland!! I don't see the logic in that one sorry!!

northside: I've never kited in Raglan. All the idiots that personify the asshole of Auckland's horrible kitescene kite there on a regular basis. As for Taranaki... likewise for that place... and besides i'm not a fan of waves. i can't waveride for crap.
Ryland
Ryland
WA
1222 posts
WA, 1222 posts
13 Jun 2005 2:31pm
SO SEND IT UP IS PAUL'VB MAN'. TWO USER NAMES. SPRUNG MATE....
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
13 Jun 2005 6:35pm
Oooh Oooh Oooh RYLAND
Would never have pegged You as the 'kiss & tell' type
Somebody will NOT be pleased
Reckon it'll be a matter of 'kiss & make-up' for you - or else

Pity all round really - I reckon it was the best/cleverest tag on the entire forum
But hey Paul I reckon you could probly sell it on for a carton - at least
Did everyone get the double emphasis/meaning here send-it-up as in kiting send-it-up as in craaping on on the forum VG VB ... VVVG ... oh well such is life
Ryland
Ryland
WA
1222 posts
WA, 1222 posts
14 Jun 2005 3:29pm
so middy is this the last we will hear from send it up. . he he
straighttalk
straighttalk
WA
2 posts
WA, 2 posts
16 Jun 2005 4:19am
As a kiwi kiter, I apologise in advance for the export to your fair land of our most annoying, insecure, and psychologically damaged 'kiter'. Blownaway, aka thrasher, aka osama bin kiting, and christ knows how many other nom de plumes, has almost single handedly rendered the NZ kiting forum worthless with his aimless babble. It has not been unknown for him to have an online argument with himself using several ID's. I understand he is a schizophrenic - the online evidence certainly supports the case. To top it all off, he does f@#$-all kiting. I predict it wont be long before you want to send him back (although there is some doubt in my mind as to whether he will make it over there in the first place. He is generally just full of sh$t).
anton
anton
202 posts
202 posts
16 Jun 2005 6:34am
quote:
Originally posted by straighttalk

As a kiwi kiter, I apologise in advance for the export to your fair land of our most annoying, insecure, and psychologically damaged 'kiter'. Blownaway, aka thrasher, aka osama bin kiting, and christ knows how many other nom de plumes, has almost single handedly rendered the NZ kiting forum worthless with his aimless babble. It has not been unknown for him to have an online argument with himself using several ID's. I understand he is a schizophrenic - the online evidence certainly supports the case. To top it all off, he does f@#$-all kiting. I predict it wont be long before you want to send him back (although there is some doubt in my mind as to whether he will make it over there in the first place. He is generally just full of sh$t).



hmmmm, hey straight talk, how do we know its reallllly you and not whats-his-name?
straighttalk
straighttalk
WA
2 posts
WA, 2 posts
16 Jun 2005 6:51am
errrmm - nice one anton, now even I am unsure who I am. Happy riding - from someone who actually does make it onto the water.
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
16 Jun 2005 10:56am
i'm sure Laurie can figure out who is who on this forum as the forum software enables you to trace a users id... I know toby can do this on kiteforum.com. I don't know Laurie but by looking at this forum he's a darn site better moderator than the boss of kiteforum.co.nz who either doesn't know what to do, how to do it or just doesn't care and just likes playing on suspense and blaming everything that sounds a tad dodgy or aggro on a few people who happen to piss him off (not a hard thing to do by the way). Yes i also go by the name thrasher but only because trigger happy Shaan (who i reckon is straighttalk) wanted to know what it was like to ban someone. I am not Osama Been Kiting despite delightful conversations with him about his camel. All this bullcrap on that forum is evidence of ****ty conditions and typicial ****ty NZ attitude towards everything. You Aussies will understand what i'm talking about.

Now putting that unpleasentry behind us. After all this IS an Aussie forum.... the less the New Zealand is mentioned the better. I am not in Aussie yet. To sort a few things out it will take me about 3 months. As for me not making it in Australia... i made it in Auckland ok.. infact i lasted 4 years in Auckland kitesurfing and i haven't shot myself or attempted suicide once... nor have i quit kitesurfing during that time. Auckland's no easy place to kite... lot's of people will agree with me on that one. So straighttalk what do you think is gonna be my undoing in OZ? Do you think the locals are gonna lynch me and send me back on the next plane? Not likely cos even if they wanted to they don't even know who the hell i am

Nice try
condorman
condorman
WA
8 posts
WA, 8 posts
16 Jun 2005 7:33pm
Hello there Blown Away.My Uncle in Auckland is an awesome Dr.His practice is on the North Shore.Ill foward you the clinic details. Dont be scared to talk to him.You give him a call ok bro.













stnkygoat
stnkygoat
NSW
230 posts
NSW, 230 posts
16 Jun 2005 10:06pm
quote:
Originally posted by BLOWN AWAY

I am not in Aussie yet. To sort a few things out it will take me about 3 months.



Wait till you try to get the phone on...
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
17 Jun 2005 5:34am
Phone??? Dude i'm gonna be there aroundabout October time and should be getting it on in 20-30kts of SeaBreeze till about March. The only reason why i'm arriving there a tad early is to set myself up. I'm pretty serious about this move.. otherwise i wouldn't be leaving AK in the peak of their season (spring) to get it sussed. While i'm blastin round on the water from noon till midnite having the time of my life in WA I'll have little need for a phone! I don't use a landline... your right too much hassle... i do everything via mobile... piece of piss. i just turn up at a beach, put the kite up and go. Unlike here in Auckland where you have to have a degree in weather forecasting just so you can get through a session without getting severe chaffing due to too much walking due to the wind lulling all the time. Someone on here mentioned that I'd be bragging about Auckland's excellent conditions the minute i stike a week without wind. I've studied your weather beacons for 2 years now... and your weather patterns are far simpler than Auckland's... especially in summer... all i see is 15-30 knots every day during summer in Perth so if i happen to strike a week without wind then **** happens... it happens to the best places to kite in the world... i ain't gonna start dissing my new home... i'm not like that. Weather beacons don't lie unless someone whoz eaten a lot of beans is allways standing infront of the anemometer and givn the fans a tickle up with a methane blast .

Perth is a world class spot for wind... everyone knows that now... it's too late guys, there is no hiding that fact. Why are there so many Kiwi kiters now relocating to OZ? The answer is clearly obvious.... oh yes and there is clearly a lack of the reverse happening.... gee i wonder why???

NZ really is a crap place to kite.... I'm comin over ready or not... phone or no phone. [}:)]
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
17 Jun 2005 5:41am
I stand corrected... i just checked straighttalk's profile.. it wasn't Shaan. But I know of a Brad who has a major problem with me over this side of the ditch (NZ not OZ by the way). He still has yet to gimme a piece of his mind like he promised to... well he'd better hurry up because I'm leaving NZ in 3 months time... and ain't going back... ever.
hi fliya
hi fliya
WA
128 posts
WA, 128 posts
17 Jun 2005 7:15pm
Blown Away, you've gotta think before you sound off bro, you're fast on your way to pissing off the whole WA kite-crew before you even make your grand appearance!

You've gotta get laid dude, and soon, have a few cold ones and chill for a bit.
BLOWN AWAY
BLOWN AWAY
156 posts
156 posts
18 Jun 2005 1:10am
Gettin laid sounds like a great idea. Infact i'm gonna head down to the Waikato today and raid the nearest paddock. They've got some sexy ewes down there. I just hope the rams understand or a i mite be in a for a bit of beating. i'll crank up my medication a tad and see if that stops me from goin insane. as for pissin the WA kiting scene... sounds like i'm only pissing the ex Kiwi kiters off that are over there... although that does make up the bulk of the WA kiting scene so come to think of it you are probably right.

sleek1
sleek1
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
19 Jun 2005 2:06pm
BLOWN AWAY that just might happen with your loud attitude.
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