Privacy Debate

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kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
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14 Dec 2008 10:55pm
man up

merman said...

btw for the Gmail and Facebook users out there have you noticed that, according to the kind of topics you are talking about,.

Certain relevant advertising will appear alongside youre web page according to what you are talking about???

scary stuff.


YES, it is ridicules how many topical adverts are on the internet. I don't normally see them due to the filters I have but when I do they are like "Perth paintballing" when discussing where to go paintballing on facebook
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
15 Dec 2008 12:57pm
There is so much delicious irony going on this thread you could get lead poisoning.

Identity fraud is a real threat..

BTW I am not happy Relli has found my 'personal' photos!

I swear I was just cleaning the house naked when i fell into the kids toy box and...
Flux
Flux
WA
533 posts
WA, 533 posts
15 Dec 2008 1:18pm
sci said...

I use my real name because I have nothing to hide and whatever views I express online I am prepared to back up when you meet me on the beach.

I do not use it to PIMP myself, I just have no issue with you knowing who I am or what I think. People can hide behind there usernames - thats fine its your prerogative. What I have an issue with is people who write crap on these forums under the guise of an unknown identity.

If people were asked to use their real identity they would perhaps think before writing others off or posting garbage.

I think these forums have lost there way lately, the threads veering off the sport that binds us and has become the rant board for a chosen few who constantly take topics off kiteboarding and into some argument or burning session.

it is so uninteresting.

scianderson








Couldn't agree more................................so true
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
15 Dec 2008 1:44pm
Hunter S said...

So what's the deal Groper? I've got a name and it's floating around the web cause of the type of work I do. Plus I'm listed in the white pages - which is on the web. It's pretty hard to avoid if your out there doing stuff.

Should I be worried about this? I'm real cautious about letting out any other info


For the benefit of internet neophytes....:

People frequently confuse Privacy with Secrecy, but the difference is not that hard to grasp. (see Wikipedia.org)

If you start posting to a website forum under a real name the most serious risk to you is defamation. It’s much harder (if not impossible) to defame (in the moral not legal sense) a fictitious identity, so it should be #1 in your arsenal of internet protection tools. However it’s extremely easy to seriously defame a real identity on the internet, and extremely difficult to undo the damage, or pursue the offender through the courts. A 15yo minor can quite happily publish lies about a person thinking its funny and not only be immune from legal consequences, but has no money to pay for the damages even if you win your case. Generally however, it’s the web site publisher who is sued for internet defamation, but if the defamation is spread over many sites the cost of effective legal action may be way out of reach.

This is a serious problem in defamation laws, which now make it cheaper to allow people to seriously defame you, than it is to protect your rights at law. Defamation is now so rampant on the internet that people don’t even see it as defamation anymore. This is particularly the case if the website is outside Australia.

A lot of posters to Seabreeze do not have vulnerable assets (eg businesses, public image (etc)) to protect, so they slag off at people who do need to protect their privacy, that is, do need protection from defamation, or other malicious acts.

The next most likely form of internet abuse you risk by connecting your real identity with your publications is harassment, or other kinds of victimisation, recrimination or discrimination. People in business and public life are well aware of these issues and take effective steps to mitigate the risk, including physical security of their businesses (etc). However your average ausiie may fail to see the danger, and I see this happening a lot, even on Seabreeze.

That said, it’s also true that there is a lot of good on the internet, and it really depends on the individual as to how much of themselves they want to risk by publishing personal information. When you get to my age (84) and still kite surfing, you realise that life is too short anyway so what the heck – that’s why I publish under my real name of Sand Groper. I also know that nothing you read on the internet can be trusted. Absolutely nothing. Not even my post. Sure, use the internet as a starting point maybe, but verify your internet “facts” before you rely on them.

The current state of play is that the internet savvy people will not risk unnecessarily publishing personal identifying information on the internet unless there is some commercial or other gain to be had. Otherwise they use a false identity - it has nothing to do with secrecy.
Hunter S
Hunter S
WA
516 posts
WA, 516 posts
15 Dec 2008 2:01pm
Thank You Mr Groper

Both interesting and informative
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
15 Dec 2008 3:35pm
waveslave said...

If you aren't a pimp, why would you use your real name ?





'cos you've got nothing to hide maybe ?
Why don't you use your real name Slave ? We all know where you live and kite anyway !

mattyjee
mattyjee
WA
575 posts
WA, 575 posts
15 Dec 2008 3:35pm
If you are so concerned about internet privacy, why have you posted a picture of either yourself or someone other, with clear view of his face, in front of his green car with number plactes starting with "9KJ".

I think you're just reaching hard for a way to badmouth Choicey's comp.
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
15 Dec 2008 11:16pm
mattyjee said...

I still think you're a dick.

If you are so concerned about internet privacy, why have you posted a picture of either yourself or someone other, with clear view of his face, in front of his green car with number plactes starting with "9KJ".

I think you're just reaching hard for a way to badmouth Choicey's comp.


Because he was aready in a public place and allowed me to take his photo.

kk
kk
WA
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kk kk
WA, 953 posts
16 Dec 2008 8:34am
What Matty said!!!

By the way the forum you want is www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/
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