Trip WA , but just for locals only!!!

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Muxu
Muxu
NSW
121 posts
NSW, 121 posts
8 Jan 2007 4:41pm
Hi just get back from WA (Woodman point) , how lucky you are to have such nice places to ride , it s just a shame to have people who write on vans locals only !!!!! that's sucks :( Even a lady who was there when we finished our session said that was sad !The sea and beaches are there to enjoy and to share :)Except this matter wonderfull time , beautifull spot on this planet !
simonsays
simonsays
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
8 Jan 2007 3:55pm
shame, poor you.... WA, we rule!
Damo
Damo
WA
641 posts
WA, 641 posts
8 Jan 2007 4:52pm
that is a shame
i dont know who wrote on your car but i do know alot of the locals that kite at woodys and most of them are great people! so you shouldn't let 1 small minded person give you a bad impression of a good kite spot full of great people.
bolgo
bolgo
WA
912 posts
WA, 912 posts
8 Jan 2007 5:05pm
can only say the same and apologise, very unwestern australian
hopefully a non local who did that - often the case
its usually the blow ins that reckon they own the place

anyone welcome as long as basic rules adhered to - mutual respect
NeilT
NeilT
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
8 Jan 2007 9:49pm
If I had the right to speak for most WA kitesurfers (which I don't) then I would apologise profusely for the disgraceful message left on your vehicle. I can only hope that this was some misguided attempt at humour which did not (and should not) work. Hopefully, just another teenager with few life skills! (the spelling would be a give-away!)

We have the benefit of huge expanses of ocean with enough room for visitors to share although a very small number of us appear to be retarded in our attitude to others. One of the great qualities of a sport is being able to go anywhere in the world and make instant friends due to a common interest. I am sure that most of us have already experienced this (excepting the retards who have never left the security of their family).

I hope you continue to enjoy many other great locations around this fantastic state.

all the best

NeilT

PS there's a fighting chance that our retards will visit YOUR state when they have learnt how to drive.........(and spell)!!





carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:11pm
quote:
Originally posted by bolgo


anyone welcome as long as basic rules adhered to - mutual respect



agreed,

basic rules arent being followed though.

follow the rules and your fine.

2 euros in the yellow and blue van, maddogs.

Other tourous cant say the same.
NeilT
NeilT
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:21pm
Hey Carbine, have you changed your real name or am I just very confused???? Bob Evans?? I always thought your name was Dave....apologies if I am mistaken....

On the current topic....... more information may be reasonably requested.

cheers
NeilT


carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:32pm
come down to woodies tomorrow.

Its a *** circus.
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:33pm
a big filthy circus with no froth.

touro to local ratio 6:1.
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:34pm
but the danish guys in the coloured van froth hard.
NorthSide
NorthSide
WA
238 posts
WA, 238 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:35pm
To any so called hard core locals who disgrace WA by vandalising other peoples property...
I don't know about you, but there are so many places in the world where I would like to and will kite, gauranteed. I will be a tourist there as will you. I hope to be accepted in other peoples playgrounds, albeit no-one can claim ownership. My point is, pull your head in because you are the lowest form of life vandalising other peoples possesions. I mean THE LOWEST! If you have ANY self respect or balls then fess up to those whose van you vandalised, apologise for being a maggot and offer to remove the graffiti for them. Then go away and take a real hard look at yourself and see if you may have learnt something towards self improvement from this experience.
I agree, the vast majority of WA kiters are a fantastic and friendly bunch of people from all walks of life.
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:37pm
im not hardcore im soft
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:39pm
when riding woodies offshore, with the tack you come in is the one most people bust on, not many locals but lots of tourists are cutting people off when there about to try something. and riding the whole way down the line which screws everyone. Im not perfect i've done it to, but i've learnt and don't do it often now. and they have been told. but i love touros they froth.
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:44pm
out of all the people having a hack, who's kited at woodies the last couple of days. You would understand. Saturday and Sunday is understandable, but today was just as croweded as a sunday. As anyone who kites woodies on a sunday knows how bad it gets with people who kite their regularly and know how it works. Now imagine it with the majority of kiters woodies first timers.
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
8 Jan 2007 10:46pm
but they are making everyone step up there riding. which is good.

if u can find an empty bit of water.
NeilT
NeilT
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
8 Jan 2007 11:49pm
Hey Toby.

you said

"not many locals but a lot of tourists are cutting people off when there about to try something"

Do you really expect all visitors (from WA or anywhere else) to know when you are "about to try something" ???????

There's at least 10km between Woodies and Garden Island. Heaps of room to experiment. Do you really have to "try something" right in close to the beach where most of the other guys are flying?

I wouldn't want to suggest that you (or anyone else) is trying to show off just-a-bit but I reckon you would have a hard time refuting it!!

I'm sure some of these guys get it wrong sometimes....... I bet you did once too!


It's interesting that many of the nearly-best WA fliers complain about the presence of "newbies", "learners", "euros", "interstaters", "touros" etc..... and yet the very best ones (who don't seem to need an audience) manage to find a space to do their stuff and are the ones who defined the term "cool".

Like many things, it's more about attitude than ability.

If Megan Gale jumped right in front of you and caused you to crash would you yell abuse at her or use it as an opportunity to get her phone number!?!

If you are the one that yells abuse then maybe you need a frontal lobotomy!

If you are the one that got her phone number then what would you have done if it was just another bloke who stuffed up???

Get used to it guys! Other dudes will stuff up right in front of you usually 'cos they don't know any better. If you wanna get angry then that's your loss not theirs. If you can't deal with it then go play dominoes. Just leave your ego at home please!

If you can deal with all the mishaps going on around you, laugh it off and go home with a big smile on your face then YOU are the winner!

I wonder what some of the contributors are on. What makes these people so damned AGGRESSIVE!?! (not you Toby)

If you are a good kitesurfer then why not book your holidays to Italy. It's a beautiful country with wonderful people, lovely beaches and heaps to do and see. I personally was infatuated with Florence.

When you have kitesurfed there please post a comment on the kitesurfing situation for the benefit of us who have yet to do so.

keep it fun!!

cheers

Neil Taylor
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t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
9 Jan 2007 12:05am
quote:
Originally posted by NeilT


"not many locals but a lot of tourists are cutting people off when there about to try something"

Do you really expect all visitors (from WA or anywhere else) to know when you are "about to try something" ???????


Neil the majority of them are advanced riders equal to or better then the best in WA. They understand what is going on but don't give a ****. Its not there spot, they blow in, take advantage of the place, dont respect anyone else on the water, reek havoc then leave to there next kiting destination (brazil, south africa, fuerte, egypt where ever). The regulars end up with a season of frustated kiting followed by another 9months of pure sh|t.

But hey they are arrorgant hot shot touro's. If you were in a foreign place with no consequences for your behaviour you would act the same. F*ck the place over then leave.
NeilT
NeilT
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
9 Jan 2007 12:11am
Fair enough Toby. I hope I never get that low that I would take such advantage of other peoples' home beaches. I think we are so lucky to have such a small population here compared to Europe/USA.

cheers
Neil

t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
9 Jan 2007 12:19am
and the reason people come in close to do tricks is the same reason u ride the offshore side because its flat... if you dont care about the flat go to scarbs or leighton or dutchies.... thats why all the touros go there aswell. but all of them arnt like that some of them sick kiters and have respect to and most of them are really nice guys out of the water
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
9 Jan 2007 12:54am
Its all very well to say you must be tolerant of touros, im friendly with many and have no problem with them sharing the water but they have to do their bit as well.
They MUST find out the local rules, even if its unwritten its the way the spot works and not taking note of how things are done cannot be tolerated or expected to be tolerated when its forcing the locals/regulars utilise the spot.

Offshore side is the prime metro kite spot and should not be used by beginners when they have no need for flat water. There are many other spots for learning and most are safer anyway.
Arrogance/incompetence/naiveness and ignorance shouldn't be accepted at spots like Woodies.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Jan 2007 12:57am
quote:
im not hardcore im soft

Not this afternoon tobes i saw you hard more than once you lil devil you
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
9 Jan 2007 12:57am
but having said that vandalising is for (need to keep civil) scallywags (got better words to describe)
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Jan 2007 1:03am
As a visitor/someone who has time on their hands why the hell would you kite in Metro spots anyway.
Millions of empty spots just up the road.

Some of those kids out there over the past few days are incredible. Great to watch
Some just need to be a bit more courteous......a bit like kids everywhere
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
9 Jan 2007 1:05am
First of all to the guttless wonder who VANDALISED another peoples property local or not it's sh#$ and un-australian.
I was not there but heard from the high performance rider(IKO instructor) that spent his/her whole session rescuing kites/riders who were on the offshore side and who couldnt even body-drag upwind or do a self rescue.
This is the WA high performance location and progressive tricks ARE and always WILL be practiced 150-100m from the shore from a safety perspective. You (from others opinion) Gybed in front of people, crashed your kite and generally stuffed up the flow of things (like dropping in on waves not at your local break), a lot of people got antsy as you were not being considerate and greedy.
On behalf of WA kiters apoligies for 1 di$Kh*%d who should have had the balls to give you friendly advice.
Woodies is a Trigg Point on the weekends and is not a spot for learners on the weekend...
Got a east coaster down at Melville(been there for 5 days), rides 50m out gybes in front of people to do his tricks, crashes( then thinks they have right of way cause there relaunching and therefore leaving the beach).... 1 ****er can make it very crowded
If your a local SAY something, if your getting abused and youre in the right your local mates will back you up.
The germain Autobahn works because people are diciplined and follow the rules.
Gybing in front of people to get the flat water (no-go) is an unwritten rule at these spots, people will stay ingorant unless they are told
Kitecrazzy (MUST learn the unwritten rules), where is it written???
Cheers and enjoy the freo doctor, all the best
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
9 Jan 2007 11:12am
This type of topics can go on and on and on ......
I cannot understand, if close to the shore is so busy, why on Earth, can't you go out, stay there, do your tricks, jumps and other stuff, than when you finished, come back to the beach, carefully and drop your kite.
I am doing this every time the spot is crowded, I have all the Bay to myself, sometime trying to race the yachts (beam reach only, no chance up or downwind though), the only downside is when my missus is coming to meet me at the beach, she really freaks out when she is told: "the little kite out there, this is where he is", but she's getting used to it now.
However, it looks like this solution will not fit the "exhibitionists", needing the "nuts gallery cheers" every time they froth the water.
Get real people, grow up, there is enough ocean for everybody in Australia, do not walk this alley, is a death end.
I’ve been in WA, and I was so fortunate to meet a crew of enthusiastic people, whom took me in some of your fantastic kiting spots.
There are so much water there. All it takes, just talk to the “euros”, touros”, non-locals, the vast majority of them will be happy to follow the written and un-written rules.
It is a matter of getting them introduced to the rules.
9 Jan 2007 9:20am
quote:
Originally posted by Muxu

Hi just get back from WA (Woodman point) , how lucky you are to have such nice places to ride , it s just a shame to have people who write on vans locals only !!!!! that's sucks :( Even a lady who was there when we finished our session said that was sad !The sea and beaches are there to enjoy and to share :)Except this matter wonderfull time , beautifull spot on this planet !




Hey Muxu, was it written on your kn van, or did someone have it on their own kn van?

(Not clear in your post and everyone seems to have blindly followed)
the loopy chicken
the loopy chicken
WA
20 posts
WA, 20 posts
9 Jan 2007 10:11am
how was it written on the van ie was it scratched into the paint? or was it just written with a finger in the dust etc

this is important cos a few times ive written "i wish my girlfriend was this dirty!!!" on a filthy car and now that is funny...if i had scratched it on or spray painted it it might have lost some in the translation.
Maxxl
Maxxl
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
9 Jan 2007 5:36pm
Locals only is just LAME!!! I hope kitesurfing is not getting into the bad habits of surfing....

I feel sorry for the guys. I assume they only kite at their LOCAL spot (and have never been anywhere else), otherwise they would not have such a childish attitude...

hi fliya
hi fliya
WA
128 posts
WA, 128 posts
9 Jan 2007 7:31pm
Silviu, The reason for doing the hard tricks close to shore has many reasons.

Safety for rider and gear- a bigger margin for recovering riders boards or kites close to shore before they end up half way to freo.

Easy relaunch- when you're trying the hard stuff, there's a good chance you're gonna spend some time relaunching your kite, this is a whole lot easier if you are close to shore in waist deep water.

Conditions: trying those top end moves requires optimal conditions, rough or choppy water is going to worsten your chances of stomping something big, its not rocket science to see that the best place for that is close to the beach.

Claim factor! Call it showing off if you want, but no-one is going to believe a claim to a big move unless its been seen. And why not show it off? this is kiteboarding- not cricket..

Get used to it guys, we're all hell bent on pushing the popularity of this sport, its gonna get busy!! and somehow as soon as anyone gets to a reasonable level of riding, they all feel that they are experts, and everyone else is a kook.

I know heaps of people who've been riding for less than 2 years who talk like they invented kiteboarding, and spouting off their opinions of who's kooking, and getting in their way etc...

Its time to acccept we're all still learning, we'll all kook it from time to time, and everyone deserves their space and time on the water. No one should have preference because they're better, older, been riding longer or whatever other reason.

Having said that, I can't understand why so many riders just content with cruising and simple jumps would want to come and join the circus on the flat side, there is a whole empty bay on the West beach, and countless other locations around Perth!

The flatside of Woodies is a world class piece of water, get used to seeing touros, euros, and others down there, bring it on!!

Personally I love to see the action, see what the overseas riders are doing, and mixing it up with all my fellow kiters,

cheers, and see you at the big top
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Jan 2007 7:53pm
....are you smoking crack again iti..??
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
9 Jan 2007 8:47pm
Maybe get the council to put up signs advising (recommened) max number of kites launching from the beach at one time & having self regulation. Might ease the problem a bit if ppl q up & wait rather than degenrate into animals.
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