^ TH if I'm not mistaken Nebbian meant that he was out on his windsurfer when he was being snaked by an inconsiderate kiter (although I believe he may be beginning to see the light and be dabbling in kite flying at times?).
As a kiter and a long time surfer (that windsurfed for a while back in the eighties) it embarrasses me at times seeing the way some kiters behave in the waves.
Yes we can normally point higher and gybe easier, but if someone on a windsurfer has riddden a swell in from way out the back FFS just let him have it and take the next one I reckon.

@Nebbian although there is a lot of kiters venturing into waves that have no real idea of what wave etiquette is all about just remember we are not all like that and it frustrates some of us kiters as well.

Hey I'm all for closest to the peak gets the wave but not if snaking is involved.
For those not sure what I am on about google surfers code of ethics or tribal law.

"Give respect to gain respect"

It still doesn't really answer waveslaves hypothetical though.

my suggestion for any kiteboarders/ kitesurfers venturing out into the waves for the first time should forget about it... before you do grab a surfboard, go out to the best surf spot in your local area when its pumping with the biggest crowd , and see how it all works... . you must experience it first hand and see what the consequences are for fcking up...you will learn the right way and fast..

Green boardie guy keeps his kite low and holds his line.
Upwind guy cranks a bottom turn and boosts off the back heading downwind, kite high over the green boardshort guy and they both continue on their run.

do i win again?

richswing said...

The green boardies guy, he's on the wave first..........(n stuff)

but waveslaves original post states that

waveslave said...


(stuff).............Two rippers drop into the same wave at exactly the same moment 20 metres apart from each other.............(n more stuff)

Who does what ??

So?

"P.R. for P.M!

That's exactly the problem I had after the Ledge to Lancelin. This is a massive windsurfing-only event, afterwards about a dozen of us went out for a bit of wave action right in front of the finishing point.

And there was one tool on a kite who kept gybing in front of me after I'd ridden the swell in from way out the back, getting just upwind of me, then getting aggro when I didn't immediately give him 'his' wave. It wasn't worth the effort of having a collision, or fisticuffs in the carpark, but it did put a dampener on what should have been a wonderful day "

Now I don't tend to agree here. If some people want to tack out a mile out to sea and then come in riding the swell and expect that wave to be theres, then ok, but what if there are 8 of you doing it. I don't want to have to do the same ridiculous tack everytime just because I can get back to the section easier upwind.

Sorry like longboarders just sitting further out the back and expecting all the waves because they paddled from further out. Not on my break.
Guy on the inside (Upwind) gets priority unless there is no need to fight for some space, then person tacking out to rottnest and back can have it.

Nah but if you on a point break and there are 10 guys all hussling for 4 sets then what?

Do the guys taking out really far get priority or guys on inside waiting for the set?

And more to illustrate the point...
Here's a pic of the upwind guy cranking the hell, bottom-turn. ^^^
(The photo has been shot from a weird angle and in black & white). lol.
You can see how he's fully committed to the turn.
This dude means business, he's not backing-off.
"WTF, why is green-boardie guy going right on my goddamn lefthander?" mumbles B & W guy thru a tightly clenched jaw.

Seconds later... ^^^
You can't see green-boardie guy, only his strings sticking out of the curtain.
The double-up reformed and sucked inside-out.
What was once a sizey lefthander morphed into a little righthand drain-pipe.
B & W guy checks it all out from the back-stalls.

The B & W guy got his kite caught in a tree - can't you see the 2 to 1 Cab bar!

Cheers
Rich