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azza

1338 posts

azza

1338 posts

23 May 2006 3:03pm

quote:
Originally posted by qfmike737

One problem....with teaching..

I dont really like kids! The idea of doing relief freaks me...coz when I was a kiddy in school we were really ratty to the relief staff!
...

Yeah, I saw some relief teachers have a really hard time of it, especially the green ones.

Teaching doesn't have to be kidies though, I was working in the TAFE system until 9 months ago. Teaching more mature students (>25) and young adults (<25) is actually very rewarding, esp' when aproached in a way that encourages social conversation about the topic as part of the teaching method. Mature students do actually want to learn, they're not just there because mum and dad said they have to be there (or else). Think about going to work each day at 9am, chatting to people about what it is that you are good at, knocking off at 4pm, and kiting till dark.

The worst part about it is the governments' shift of teaching staff to casual basis... it doesn't offer the level of security that some of us would like... "Sorry, you're not needed today, so we're not going to pay you either."

ellery

VIC

187 posts

ellery

VIC, 187 posts

23 May 2006 5:17pm

quote:
Originally posted by qfmike737

Azza...Getting that initial capital means not kiting for ages...I've often thought should I bite the bullet work out west at some mining town for a couple of years...save up a load of cash and come back and work in some cruisy flexible job

You don't have to get the capital yourself. That's what your belief system is. I'm a uni student, so if anyone wouldn't have much capital it would be me! But what do i have that most others don't? TIME! So i can leverage by using other peoples money, split the profits, and before you know it, you're retired.

I know a guy who's 25 and retired. Do you think Mr. Branson had a lot of capital when he bought a 3 million dollar island? Well actually, he got the island for 200 grand, but do you think he had 200 grand? No, he borrowed money of friends and family. Do you think they enjoyed sharing the profits? ABSOLUTELY!

The idea that you need more capital is such a common misconception. You just need to change your belief system and look for other ways!

Best Wishes
James

elizabethb

QLD

2081 posts

elizabethb

QLD, 2081 posts

23 May 2006 5:23pm

quote:
Originally posted by qfmike737

One problem....with teaching..

I dont really like kids! The idea of doing relief freaks me...coz when I was a kiddy in school we were really ratty to the relief staff!

Nah mate - You have to be registered by the Qld Teachers Board of Registration, and completed either a Certificate/ Diploma in Teaching (for the older people), or a Bachelor of Primary Education or Bach. of Education to be able to relief teach or relief in any Primary school in Queensland.

Buschy

QLD

188 posts

Buschy

QLD, 188 posts

23 May 2006 5:31pm

Work for your in-laws engineering firm and threaten to move the daughter and grand children overseas if you don't get your fair share of time on the water....

azza

1338 posts

azza

1338 posts

23 May 2006 3:44pm

quote:
Originally posted by ellery

...
But what do i have that most others don't? TIME! So i can leverage by using other peoples money, split the profits, and before you know it, you're retired.
...

The only thing stands in the way of many people doing just that, is access. Without access to the required level of funds/lenders, without access to the sort of leads/information to find the big breaks, it doesn't begin to work. Granted once you're established enough and trusted by potential investors it can all work... but getting to that point is pie-in-the-sky for most people... "old money" sure would help, so would being very persuasive, and just a bit brilliant.

Please don't think I'm putting the idea down, just encouraging discussion about kiting more and working less... and backing it with an honest buck.

ellery

VIC

187 posts

ellery

VIC, 187 posts

23 May 2006 6:35pm

No worries guys, I'm just letting you know that the decision to become wealthy is yours!

regards
James

Happy

NSW

98 posts

Happy

NSW, 98 posts

23 May 2006 7:13pm

baker

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

23 May 2006 8:38pm

Hi Happy

Are you a baker? I was thinking about that today...don't most pastry chefs/bakers start really early? What about Couriers or Bakery Delivery drivers???

Azza to teach in Tafe what are the courses you need? Is it just a CERT IV in workplace training or do you need a Diploma of Teaching?

I've got mates that did evening work up and down the coast to kite in the afternoons...but honestly after kiting i feel DEAD.

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

23 May 2006 9:14pm

Azza would it be possible to teach English to Adults casually? ie. Adults where English is not their first language?

Happy

NSW

98 posts

Happy

NSW, 98 posts

24 May 2006 5:28am

Hi im not a baker as such
but i do night shift at my local bakery before school once a week (5am-8am) and saturday night i do a (1am-8am)shift gives me the rest of the day to go kiting. I just do the overns, tin up the bread and do all the icing iv been there for a about a year now.

azza

1338 posts

azza

1338 posts

24 May 2006 4:59am

quote:
Originally posted by qfmike737

Azza would it be possible to teach English to Adults casually? ie. Adults where English is not their first language?

I'm sure it is somewhere, but I couldn't point at a place. Most of the core subject (like math and English) teachers I have known, have a strongly accademic history (a BA in this and/or that, BA Ed too). But I have come across people that have gotten jobs, like you mention, because they have another language and transferable experience/quals. Language seems to be very dependant on location though and demand... to be honest I don't know for sure. But it is always worth doing your own research.

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

24 May 2006 7:49am

Hi Happy

I kind of liek that early morning job for extra pocket money to help fund those kiting roadtrips. Did you just hand in a basic resume? is it just cash in hand work? or do you have to tell the tax man?

Im probably too old (23) for any bakery to hire me.

GreenPat

QLD

4114 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4114 posts

25 May 2006 3:37am

to ellery: haven't I heard that somewhere before...

to everyone else: I reckon the mines 'fly in - fly out' (of Perth) was the shizzle. 9 days on site, 5 days kiteboarding. 6 nights in town to have nights in town...

paulio

QLD

890 posts

paulio

QLD, 890 posts

25 May 2006 4:53am

Own 'Surf FX'

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

25 May 2006 6:22am

GreenPat do mine companies take on entry level applicants?

tezza49er

97 posts

tezza49er

NT, 97 posts

25 May 2006 8:22am

Mike....were you an F/O on the maggot with AN then OZjet? How recent are you ?

robecq

VIC

51 posts

robecq

VIC, 51 posts

25 May 2006 1:42pm

Chef..... I was a breakfast chef all summer (its one of the easier cooking jobs too) start at 7am finish at 3pm. Kite from 3.30 7 days a week. ohhh yeh

richo

QLD

337 posts

richo

QLD, 337 posts

25 May 2006 2:37pm

hay ellery "sit on it". do you know the backing your pin up boy bransen had. get a couple of kids under your belt and retire on your non required capital investments before ya spill that amway **** around.

heavon help us. If you want ta get rich ask fitzy how or the boys at surf fx. The guys that i know who are rich worked bloody hard and got a bit lucky. Ya need both to make it

If ya got the gift of the gab then sure you might be able to swing a deal but changing your belief system what crap. If you think we all got the talent to grab investors and do a deal and sit back in the cash. Your very confused about the talent of some of us mere mortals out here in pov land.

Change ya habits- then maybe you got a start!

have you thought about running how to get rich seminars i reakon you would be a hit. blah blah blah blah

Oh this friend 25 and finished i am willing to bet you would not have to dig far to find the critical connection, the backing, the idea, the lucky fall of the cards. It will be there somewhere

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

25 May 2006 4:27pm

hey tezza was ex australian airlines (the 767 fleet basedin CNS) and ozjet. i was in recruitment/training and HR for both carriers with a short stint with Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi between both of the failed aussie carriers...both were a bloody nightmare! I dont want to get back into the industry!! the golden days are well and truly gone!

So far I think my contracting job that I've got at the moment seems like the best a far as flexibility goes...but the pay is CRAP.

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

25 May 2006 6:23pm

o.k. self employment, where the buck stops with you, is the only key to true freedom.
it can be a rocky long road but a truly rewarding one for the soul.
sometimes just for the ability to be answerable to no-one.
follow your instincts, but don't expect results (or money) fast.

or go get a job.

poor relative

9106 posts

poor relative

WA, 9106 posts

27 May 2006 7:45pm

I still club seal pups for fur coats.

gruezi

3464 posts

gruezi

WA, 3464 posts

27 May 2006 7:53pm

Are you sure those are Seal Pups...........in Rwanda?

carbine

1450 posts

carbine

WA, 1450 posts

28 May 2006 3:52am

quote:
Originally posted by ellery

quote:
Originally posted by qfmike737

Azza...Getting that initial capital means not kiting for ages...I've often thought should I bite the bullet work out west at some mining town for a couple of years...save up a load of cash and come back and work in some cruisy flexible job

You don't have to get the capital yourself. That's what your belief system is. I'm a uni student, so if anyone wouldn't have much capital it would be me! But what do i have that most others don't? TIME! So i can leverage by using other peoples money, split the profits, and before you know it, you're retired.

I know a guy who's 25 and retired. Do you think Mr. Branson had a lot of capital when he bought a 3 million dollar island? Well actually, he got the island for 200 grand, but do you think he had 200 grand? No, he borrowed money of friends and family. Do you think they enjoyed sharing the profits? ABSOLUTELY!

The idea that you need more capital is such a common misconception. You just need to change your belief system and look for other ways!

Best Wishes
James

quote:
No worries guys, I'm just letting you know that the decision to become wealthy is yours!

regards
James

I can sense your going to pull out some pyramid.

wilbur_2

QLD

59 posts

wilbur_2

QLD, 59 posts

28 May 2006 6:51am

Why would he need to
with all the information about getting rich he's sharing, money must mean nothing to him by now!

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

28 May 2006 6:16pm

i think i am onto something. In Australia I think you only need about 10 000 people to sign a list to form a religion we should make kitesurfing a religion..just imagine all the benefits of having a non-profit organisation like that. Worship of the wind religion means having to practice when the wind is up. I know I could get out of work to do that! It would be dissing for your boss to not let you out (well i know it is in govt jobs)

We should fwd a chain letter where you add your name to the list

poor relative

9106 posts

poor relative

WA, 9106 posts

28 May 2006 5:19pm

quote:
Are you sure those are Seal Pups...........in Rwanda

Damn seals.....nah i meant land owners.
In Rwanda i club land owners and use their skins for nice warm beanies
But in Alaska i club seals....damn this sugar free pepsi.

richo

QLD

337 posts

richo

QLD, 337 posts

29 May 2006 12:58pm

hay ellery
maybe i was a little heavy handed but
have you no compassion

GreenPat

QLD

4114 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4114 posts

29 May 2006 3:10pm

Sorry qfmike737 been in transit for a while. The FIFO mines take entry level applicants but don't put that many on. Knowing someone can help to get a job on their site (btw I am not on one of those sites anymore). They like people with experience and/or trades/professions. But I've seen a fair few totally green people come out from all sorts of backgrounds, mostly starting on the haul trucks and working up from there.

Miners, truckers, mill rats, generally non-staff personnel don't often work 9/5, but a lot now work 8/6, an even better roster, or the more traditional 14/7, not as many days off to on ratio.

qfmike737

QLD

398 posts

qfmike737

QLD, 398 posts

29 May 2006 6:13pm

hey thanks for that info.

id want to commute back and fourth from brisbane if i did it. i wonder what I could do? I dont think my airline background is going to do me any favours lol

i bumped into some tradies today that said that they are planning o going north for summer to do work and kite. They aren't doing too bad with $$$ simply doing that.

ellery

VIC

187 posts

ellery

VIC, 187 posts

29 May 2006 6:43pm

If i can't convince you guys to invest.

I'll put in a plug for kite-landboarding.

If you can't get to the beach that often, why not maximise the time you can kite when you're at the beach!

James

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