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airush geoff
airush geoff
974 posts
974 posts
26 Jun 2009 11:22am
Cheers for the feedback- the thing I loved about last years kite was the wind range and of course the hangtime and boost....I only have one kite each year now so the 10m sounds like the go- rode most sessions this year with the one kite and board hopefully the new 10m will be awesome.
jordy
jordy
SA
451 posts
SA, 451 posts
26 Jun 2009 3:13pm
airush geoff said...

Cheers for the feedback- the thing I loved about last years kite was the wind range and of course the hangtime and boost....I only have one kite each year now so the 10m sounds like the go- rode most sessions this year with the one kite and board hopefully the new 10m will be awesome.


So will you buy a 10m....and then what?? Buy an SUP to ride???? Hahaha

Somehow I don't think a 10m and a 136 will get you up in 15kn somehow...

toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
26 Jun 2009 7:37pm
Any idea when will the SwitchBlades be avaliable and prices?
Aussie $$ has made a bit of a comeback
NSW, 4382 posts
26 Jun 2009 11:43pm
toppleover said...

Any idea when will the SwitchBlades be avaliable and prices?
Aussie $$ has made a bit of a comeback


SB's will be available in late August, prices are not determined by todays exchange rate for any kites being released by any brand in the next 3-6 months, however I'm certain that prices are going to be slightly higher than last years, simply because all the costs of production, and raw materials have risen substantially over the last 12 months.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
27 Jun 2009 10:20am
Kitepower Australia said...

toppleover said...

Any idea when will the SwitchBlades be avaliable and prices?
Aussie $$ has made a bit of a comeback


SB's will be available in late August, prices are not determined by todays exchange rate for any kites being released by any brand in the next 3-6 months, however I'm certain that prices are going to be slightly higher than last years, simply because all the costs of production, and raw materials have risen substantially over the last 12 months.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve


Thats a load of old crap Steve. I manufacture polyester based goods in China and the cost of producing these goods has actually dropped, the cost of shipping has also dropped dramatically and there are thousands of empty containers sat at all the ports. Also the Aus dollar has recovered nicely. I have not felt the need to increase my prices for 5 years. The only reason for trade prices to go up is greed.

kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
WA, 680 posts
27 Jun 2009 12:07pm
Before this one gets out of hand and completely off topic, I also find the price hikes hard to digest.

When the dollar is down, the excuses for higher kite prices is 'the Australian Exchange Rate is down which means that it costs more to purchase and import'
When the Australian dollar is up, the excuses for higher kite prices is 'we pre-ordered the season's stock when the Australian dollar was down'.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but considering the financial status quo of the world's economy, surely prices should drop (supply and demand). If not, then can someone please explain why the demand for the raw materials for the production of kites (including oil which happens to be almost a third of the price it has been in the last 3-4 years) has increased when the general trend is a decrease in demand for non-critical products? Alternatively, can someone please explain which material used in the production of kites has decreased in supply.

I believe it's more of a case that the major kiting companies/distributors/suppliers have recognised that the growth of the sport has been phenomonial, people are willing to pay the price and there's a buck of 2 to be made. You can't blame them -they've no doubt got morgages/families etc, and who in their right mind would run a shop to break even?

BACK TO IT - can Rhys please post a photo of the Nugget?
airush geoff
airush geoff
974 posts
974 posts
27 Jun 2009 1:22pm
The nugget looks hot- what is the deal with the single fin at the nose and dual at the tail though ?
airush geoff
airush geoff
974 posts
974 posts
27 Jun 2009 1:25pm
jordy said...

airush geoff said...

Cheers for the feedback- the thing I loved about last years kite was the wind range and of course the hangtime and boost....I only have one kite each year now so the 10m sounds like the go- rode most sessions this year with the one kite and board hopefully the new 10m will be awesome.


So will you buy a 10m....and then what?? Buy an SUP to ride???? Hahaha

Somehow I don't think a 10m and a 136 will get you up in 15kn somehow...




Jordy,

when you show me a decent move ( a backroll even ) done with something resembling style and or flow, then you may be qualified to shoot your mouth off- until then we will all kite and you can slap your mates arses in the footy showers after the game.....bait in trap, let's catch me a Jordy.
tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
27 Jun 2009 1:44pm
Geoff.... the Nugget I'm sure has 3 fins at the tail and one at the nose FCS I believe. This is due to a few reason I'm guessing. A: Its not a board that rides like a twin tip. B: You still need fin grip at the tail. C: The fin by the nose will help when landing pop shovits.

Great idea by Cab. Looks like a great board for having fun with.

Jordy..... If you want any coaching to look stylish I'll be happy to help - HAHA
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Jun 2009 4:31pm
G'day
Maybe not the best of images and the board does not have its full length deck pad on it.



The board is dished on its top surface, and has rounded rails with an edge like a surfboard.



Believe what you want about pricing, opinions are like a***holes, everyone has one. However that is not going to stop small volume product manufacturers, involved in producing our toys which inherently require large amounts of costly R&D input from increasing in price.
Price increases are not always about greed especially small incremental increases that maintain the fine profit margins which allow companies to keep investing in R&D providing us end users with the innovation and performance and safety improvement, we strongly desire.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
27 Jun 2009 2:37pm
Price increases are not always about greed especially small incremental increases that maintain the fine profit margins which allow companies to keep investing in R&D providing us end users with the innovation and performance and safety improvement, we strongly desire.


Thats the point I was making Steve.
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
27 Jun 2009 4:48pm
I think your missing the point. The cost of producing the end product has gone down, so prices should not go up, its pretty simple really. I am not accusing the stores of being greedy which is why I stated that TRADE prices should not have gone up. I am more than happy to pay for R & D e.t.c. I think the shops should get more than a 30% margin. The manufacturers are the ones that need a kick up the ass.
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Jun 2009 4:56pm
tino said...

Price increases are not always about greed especially small incremental increases that maintain the fine profit margins which allow companies to keep investing in R&D providing us end users with the innovation and performance and safety improvement, we strongly desire.


Thats the point I was making Steve.



Although your prices are out of date and a bit inaccurate Tino, they paint a scenario similar to reality, however manufacturer costs are higher and shop margins can be both smaller and larger.

Price increases in raw materials are common across the globe for all areas, although some product sectors are extremely price sensitive especially in high volume areas

www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=Polyester+price+increases&gws_rd=ssl

Wage costs in China and other Asian manufacturing economies are rising faster than almost anywhere else in the world. Wage costs are a high component of any labour intensive textile based product especially in low volume markets.
Kites are not made in volume, compared to almost any other textile manufacturing.

www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=Wage+increases+china

Shipping costs increases, details.

www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=Shipping+cost+increases

Transit and general liability Insurance cost increases.

www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=cost+%2Bincreases+Liability+and+transit+Insurance&ei=hbVFSoG5OsSGkAXO8-ipDw&sa=X&oi=stemming_tip&ct=title

Some of you really need to wake up and realise you live in one of the most fortunate periods and countries in human history.
Taking cheap shots at the people who provide your toys is becoming pathetically childish and ridiculous!!!!!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
27 Jun 2009 3:43pm
Although your prices are out of date and a bit inaccurate Tino, they paint a scenario similar to reality, however manufacturer costs are higher and shop margins can be both smaller and larger.


My shop figures are an average! If you pay COD it can be better if you take ages to pay its lower. If you stock Cab its alot higher!!!!
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
27 Jun 2009 8:38pm
Kitepower Australia said...

tino said...

Price increases are not always about greed especially small incremental increases that maintain the fine profit margins which allow companies to keep investing in R&D providing us end users with the innovation and performance and safety improvement, we strongly desire.


Thats the point I was making Steve.



Although your prices are out of date and a bit inaccurate Tino, they paint a scenario similar to reality, however manufacturer costs are higher and shop margins can be both smaller and larger.

Price increases in raw materials are common across the globe for all areas, although some product sectors are extremely price sensitive especially in high volume areas

www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=Polyester+price+increases&gws_rd=ssl

Wage costs in China and other Asian manufacturing economies are rising faster than almost anywhere else in the world. Wage costs are a high component of any labour intensive textile based product especially in low volume markets.
Kites are not made in volume, compared to almost any other textile manufacturing.

www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=Wage+increases+china

Shipping costs increases, details.

www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=Shipping+cost+increases

Transit and general liability Insurance cost increases.

www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4RNWE_enAU306AU306&q=cost+%2Bincreases+Liability+and+transit+Insurance&ei=hbVFSoG5OsSGkAXO8-ipDw&sa=X&oi=stemming_tip&ct=title

Some of you really need to wake up and realise you live in one of the most fortunate periods and countries in human history.
Taking cheap shots at the people who provide your toys is becoming pathetically childish and ridiculous!!!!!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve







So, you still believe that the cost of manufacturing a product in China and landing it in Australia is more expensive than last year???? You are either deluded or living in never never land Peter.
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
27 Jun 2009 10:58pm
Well thank God that Kites are made in China, and not in Europe or Australia, or i would never be able to afford one.
C'mon guys we haven't even tried the kites yet to see if they are worth it yet.
I know the wind is lacking on the East Coast but lets not start another thread bashing. - Lets keep the topic back on the Nomad

KR
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
27 Jun 2009 11:25pm
Still waiting for an answer on whether I should change my Switchy IDS's for Nomads???? I guess nobody knows yet????
tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
27 Jun 2009 11:18pm
Paul1,

It depends what style of riding you are currently doing. The SBs and Nomads are totally different. The Nomads are not as powerful as the SBs so if you ride a 12 SB you 'll need to get a 13m Nomad. They turn super quick too.

Pop into a Cab dealer and grab the 2010 product guide - thats what I did. All the wind ranges for a 70kg rider is in there.

Happy riding.
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
28 Jun 2009 9:36am
tino said...

Paul1,

It depends what style of riding you are currently doing. The SBs and Nomads are totally different. The Nomads are not as powerful as the SBs so if you ride a 12 SB you 'll need to get a 13m Nomad. They turn super quick too.

Pop into a Cab dealer and grab the 2010 product guide - thats what I did. All the wind ranges for a 70kg rider is in there.

Happy riding.



Thanks Tino. I am mainly into unhooked freestyle and wave riding my surfboards. My 12m never gets much use as the 10 gets you up and going in very similar strength winds.
Robe
Robe
SA
150 posts
SA, 150 posts
28 Jun 2009 4:18pm
Paul1,
Stick with your switchies, I'm also just back for Fiji and have ridden this years range and I've just ordered switchies again-but hey, each to there own-Nomads are a great new kite on the market-
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
29 Jun 2009 9:49am
The Demo we had yesterday at Inskip Pt QLD was a big success

Had a really good turnout and we were sooooo lucky to get sun AND a little wind in the dead of winter.

Lots of people flying the Nomad and riding all the new boards, however the standout of the day was in fact the Nugget... This little thing was just so much fun to ride and seemed to be the talking point for the whole day!!

Can't wait to get a production model of this puppy with the full deck pad.

Thanks to all for the beautiful day and here's a few pics for everyone (mostly of said Nugget)




Robe
Robe
SA
150 posts
SA, 150 posts
29 Jun 2009 10:32am
I didnt think we were ment to be posting photos of the new 2010 range yet? or was I not listening to everyone? I thought it was decided not to post them until they were officially released?
max14
max14
SA
220 posts
SA, 220 posts
29 Jun 2009 11:29am
yeah i was told exactly the same thing, nothin to be posted until the release date...
NSW, 4382 posts
29 Jun 2009 1:50pm
The kite is released, all the kites we returned with are released already and stock should be heading our way really soon.
If its the nugget/boards that concerns people, there are already pics on the net of all the boards.
How can any brand expect to keep anything secret, pics of the Nomad were appearing on the forums 6 months ago.?

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
Robe
Robe
SA
150 posts
SA, 150 posts
29 Jun 2009 1:25pm
cool, so what other photos can we post? what else has been released?
jordy
jordy
SA
451 posts
SA, 451 posts
29 Jun 2009 3:40pm
airush geoff said...

jordy said...

airush geoff said...

Cheers for the feedback- the thing I loved about last years kite was the wind range and of course the hangtime and boost....I only have one kite each year now so the 10m sounds like the go- rode most sessions this year with the one kite and board hopefully the new 10m will be awesome.


So will you buy a 10m....and then what?? Buy an SUP to ride???? Hahaha

Somehow I don't think a 10m and a 136 will get you up in 15kn somehow...




Jordy,

when you show me a decent move ( a backroll even ) done with something resembling style and or flow, then you may be qualified to shoot your mouth off- until then we will all kite and you can slap your mates arses in the footy showers after the game.....bait in trap, let's catch me a Jordy.


Footy is the reason I could quite comfortably get through a season on a 10m with a 132 board. Your lack of physical exercise is the reason you can't!!

And if you call one of your back rolls or front rolls style, then I guess the titanic sinking or a whale breaching from the water could be classed as style as well!

Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5127 posts
VIC, 5127 posts
29 Jun 2009 5:14pm
The latest Kiteboarder mag has a two page ad for the Nomad, a one page interview with the designer and a press release. I think the secret's out boys.
max14
max14
SA
220 posts
SA, 220 posts
29 Jun 2009 8:35pm
yeah the nomad is not what i was refering too, but hey kitepower are a stockist of cabrinha so i am sure they know what the go is... Good work in bringing gear to the masses guys :)
Robe
Robe
SA
150 posts
SA, 150 posts
29 Jun 2009 8:37pm
Cat maybe out of the bag, but the crew in FIJI were still asked not be taking photos of any of the gear and waiting for the official release before we unleashed the beast, thats all Im saying-do your local demos, write your reviews and enjoy the gear, its a great product-its the photos that we were asked not to publish-honestly I dont give a rats ass, but if everyone does as there asked its a rosy world we live in-Cabrinha can do what ever they want in Kiteboarder mag, its their product-
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
1 Jul 2009 9:43am
Nomad's released today :)
Should see some official stuff from Cabrinha soon but here some more photo's from the Demo on the weekend!








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