B Chambers said...


I have no doubt the other companies are watching this whole thing closely. In fact, I'm willing to bet a few of them are not stoked at all with it.

The fact that we are in business proves one point that I see thrown around a lot. PSH needs to make $$$. YES. But, what is wrong with helping out customers by lowering the prices while we do it? Market share? Naish and those big guys got plenty deep pockets and big distribution etc. We run on a shoestring compared to them. We will never be all over the place like those companies and frankly, we don't want to be. It's just not our thing. We're a small company even though it appears we are big. People think we are a lot bigger than we really are. We're still small and that's fine for us.

I see a lot of sceptic posts about what we do so I already know a lot of people won't ever be riding PSH and that is OK too. I'm not here to convince anyone to do anything. Our goal was never to rule the World, or any town, or anywhere for that matter. Our goal is and always has been to have a company that is fun to run so we can paddle and surf and make better boards so when we do paddle and surf we're stoked!

The very fact that we are in business collecting some $$$ makes everything we say suspect. That's OK because people have been screwed so many times in life if they're not careful, they can get screwed again. Understood. Everything I say is from the heart and I try my best to back up everything said or I'm not gonna say it. I'm not perfect but I try to be a good person and how I run my business is a direct reflection of me. Will everyone be OK with that? Probably not but I can live with myself doing it the way I do. The fact that I'm willing to come forward and talk directly to the public about these things should show I really got nothing to hide. As time goes on people will see I am exactly the same person in real life as on the internet.

I'm just a regular bloke from a really small pineapple town in Hawaii. I've struggled a lot in life and this is the first time I ever had something I loved doing pay me. I'm not gonna blow it by being greedy. The formula that works for PSH is keep it fun, stoke people out, remember where we came from, and most of all, sell things we can be proud of at a fair price. If we f%*k up, fix it right, right away.

This is how we started. We're just going back to what was way more fun to do than try growing big and be everywhere. Our bills get paid and we have some $$$ to make new stuff. The moment we started getting off our original system, the fun went away. Not everyone will agree with this business philosophy or won't believe we're sincere about it. That's OK. It is what it is and this is the way we're gonna go... Keeping it fun.

boarder paul said...

Its the shape mate, Thats is what your paying for.

As you mention yes cheap boards No name backyard SUPs

They pop up everywhere and cheap, But if is a donkey you want to ride the yea' as you say plenty on ebay.

loco4olas said...



Yes but-you're paying for the shape-you're paying for Blane's intellectual property garnered through R&D and getting it right-the Bics, SouthPoints etc. are NOT equal to the PSHs in design and performance-so, you pay a premium for superior design and superior customer service and product back up-amortise the extra dollars over the life of the board, it's worth it, by a long shot-you DO get what you pay for.

OG SUP said...

Hey Log Man,

You have a valid point in saying custom is king, thats why I bought Neshas and Kristis boards from Imperial. I tried to get 12ft custom board made 12 months ago by local shapers in Vicco and the answer was NO. Also the cost quoted to me was circa 2000 - 2100 and the wait was to be about 2 -3 months even if I wanted to go ahead. The other thing was the shapes were totally un tested concepts!

I support my local shaper to the hilt and beyond and IMO he is about the only quality SUP shaper in Vicco. He still cannot make me an epoxy SUP for a few months.

Even if he could I doubt he can pump out any more than 30 - 40 SUPS a year max.

If you try to buy a board from Rod Hocker (i like his shapes and they are proven IMO) He is about 8 - 10 weeks min wait and the list is getting longer by the day.

After a couple of really bad experiences in the surf industry I would NEVER buy a board, SUP Long short or boggie board unless I can demo it first. I have learned from personal experience that the rockers and shapes used in QLD for example simply do not work here unless you ride them on a point break! Rods Beach Rocker is an exception to that rule.

I would love to try a Laguna Bay / DC but I am not going to get on a plane and go to Noosa to do it. I will not fork out $1800 blind on a guess that it will work as I said I have been burned badly twice. Thats no offence to Laguna Bay or DC its obvious they make excellent shapes.

Rod Hocker put his money where his mouth and designs were jumped on a plane and flew to Vicco to show off his shapes and has won a great following doing it. I have recommended him to at lease 20 people and I know he got significant orders out of OG13.

I am without doubt a KOOK surfer, but I have riden a Bic and a Bonga 10'6 and a Kalama South point and there isnt a snow flakes chance in hell that I would buy one as they just dont suit me they simply do not work! That doesnt mean they will not work for others!

I ride my boards hard and in above average size surf, ask PeteMC he had a session with us today, he will tell you I dont back off from anything! My 10'6WAA shreaded the waves today I would have required a Bic extraction device to remove it from my A$$ on most of the take offs.

Blane shapes SUPS, SUPS and SUPs, thats the whole range. He is a specialist, not a generalist shaper that shapes sups to make an extra buck on the side.

Blane is based in Hawaii, he personally answers all my emails and has helped me many times as if he was down in my main street. I get demo boards and the services is excellent actually superb.

I am happy pay the premium to get a premium product even if it is a pop out as for me its the best performance shape by light years! Naish may be good but they dot work for my Wide A$$

If Lagona Bay or DC want to park a Demo Board down in Vicco for people to demo I will actively help them out, I am happy to put it infront of as many people as they like.

I am also looking for a custom for Kristiana as she is out growing her current board maybe some thing like Keahi's board is the answer.

Rant over sorry but the adrenaline is still drippin out of my ears lol.

Regards

Phill

phil,your so into it,cant wait for dave to shape epoxy,they will be good.keahi's sup would still be too big for the girls,8.6 ok but too thick and wide,annie found these widths just to flat in the turn for light weight girls but that is the beauty of custom ,be it surshapes, laguna bay, dc or dave boyd just to name the ones i have surfed they can design a board for any weight,the store bought boards are set in stone,noosa is worth the effort when the surf is on its sup heaven

OG SUP said...

Hey Log Man,

You have a valid point in saying custom is king, thats why I bought Neshas and Kristis boards from Imperial. I tried to get 12ft custom board made 12 months ago by local shapers in Vicco and the answer was NO. Also the cost quoted to me was circa 2000 - 2100 and the wait was to be about 2 -3 months even if I wanted to go ahead. The other thing was the shapes were totally un tested concepts!

I support my local shaper to the hilt and beyond and IMO he is about the only quality SUP shaper in Vicco. He still cannot make me an epoxy SUP for a few months.

Even if he could I doubt he can pump out any more than 30 - 40 SUPS a year max.

If you try to buy a board from Rod Hocker (i like his shapes and they are proven IMO) He is about 8 - 10 weeks min wait and the list is getting longer by the day.

After a couple of really bad experiences in the surf industry I would NEVER buy a board, SUP Long short or boggie board unless I can demo it first. I have learned from personal experience that the rockers and shapes used in QLD for example simply do not work here unless you ride them on a point break! Rods Beach Rocker is an exception to that rule.

I would love to try a Laguna Bay / DC but I am not going to get on a plane and go to Noosa to do it. I will not fork out $1800 blind on a guess that it will work as I said I have been burned badly twice. Thats no offence to Laguna Bay or DC its obvious they make excellent shapes.

Rod Hocker put his money where his mouth and designs were jumped on a plane and flew to Vicco to show off his shapes and has won a great following doing it. I have recommended him to at lease 20 people and I know he got significant orders out of OG13.

I am without doubt a KOOK surfer, but I have riden a Bic and a Bonga 10'6 and a Kalama South point and there isnt a snow flakes chance in hell that I would buy one as they just dont suit me they simply do not work! That doesnt mean they will not work for others!

I ride my boards hard and in above average size surf, ask PeteMC he had a session with us today, he will tell you I dont back off from anything! My 10'6WAA shreaded the waves today I would have required a Bic extraction device to remove it from my A$$ on most of the take offs.

Blane shapes SUPS, SUPS and SUPs, thats the whole range. He is a specialist, not a generalist shaper that shapes sups to make an extra buck on the side.

Blane is based in Hawaii, he personally answers all my emails and has helped me many times as if he was down in my main street. I get demo boards and the services is excellent actually superb.

I am happy pay the premium to get a premium product even if it is a pop out as for me its the best performance shape by light years! Naish may be good but they dot work for my Wide A$$

If Lagona Bay or DC want to park a Demo Board down in Vicco for people to demo I will actively help them out, I am happy to put it infront of as many people as they like.

I am also looking for a custom for Kristiana as she is out growing her current board maybe some thing like Keahi's board is the answer.

Rant over sorry but the adrenaline is still drippin out of my ears lol.

Regards

Phill