If that was the case i would have done it already.

My gripe is with the new price changes which will be more than a stubbies worth

Only apply to you and others but informed not nz .

So here is what im saying, if you pay new price $100 and now you pay $150

We still pay $150 so if you pay $50 we will still pay $150

My god!!! if it's not enough for importers and retailers to rip off Australians , now they have to start on the poor New Zealanders , what's next Tasmanians ?

boarder paul said...

Kagey said...


As it stands $950 USD roughly converts to $1450 NZD but we pay closer to $2200 and more for larger boards (obviously) although I understand shipping costs and tax etc. it's still hard to stomach seeing elsewhere getting way cheaper products.

So I wait with great interest to see if PSH and the like bring down prices for international customers??

Kagey, Im sad to inform you that this does not apply to us in NZ, Why i dont know.

All im going to say is there is no way i as a nz will be paying more for the same board that the ausies.

Kagey it would be cheaper to get on a plane and pick it up in person and even demo the shop boards, As we cant even demo the board. We as nz buyers go on the information from dealers and yourselves to work out if a board is worth us buying.

So my gripe here is 1, No demos.. 2, We will pay more

Now aust is not on the other side of the world from nz is it.

This sounds like a bitch and a moan, Well dam right it is I just hope there are changes in the wind for nz.

Guys, we are working on NZ as well. There is currently an agent in place down there but as yet no demo boards. This has more to do with the size of the market which is still in it infancy.

At the end of the day if we want demo boards that means a dealer in your area which is an extra margin, so the boards have to cost more. A few people are happy to buy sight unseen but for the majority, I believe they would prefer to pay more to demo and get the right board and have it backed up locally.

Here in OZ we want to work with our key dealers so we can have service and demo boards in the right places but everyone in the chain has to make a margin. I get the feeling from the forum that most people want to support the Australian's in the chain, but that does mean paying more.

Blane is in a unique position being the manufacturer going direct - similar, I guess to what a few custom shapers do down here. There will always be those players in every market, for the rest of us who have to buy of the manufacturer, bring them in and have dealers and demo's across the nation, the costs will always be higher.

I don't know anyone who is getting rich from SUP down here in OZ and based on some previous models in Windsurfing and Kitesurfing, I doubt it will ever happen.

If you guys knew the margins we work on you would laugh, seriously!

At the end of the day, the market determines the pricing, not us.

This is a good thing for the sport and the good news is that prices will come down, just not as dramatically here, as in the US.

Trust me, we are in this because we love Paddle Surfing and what it has to offer - everyone!

If we make a living out of it we are doing well. Anyone who thinks they will make a killing out of it is kidding themselves.

Anyway, that is just one guys industry perspective.

You are the market and at the end of the day I am sure you will back those who are genuine, passionate about what they do and back it up 110% both on and off the water.

We are lucky as there appears to be plenty of those players down here.

Time to paddle!

AA

boarder paul said...

Thanks AA, But im glad there is no demo here in that case as the price in nz would go from high to stupid.

I got my info straight from the nz agent, that nz is not involved in any changes

I cant help thinking this is a marketing thing where a company advertises to perform the exercise of better price boards, But realy is just holding the market at bay so they dont head to other brands already on the discount wagon or selling at better prices.

Sorry if i sound bitter but i am.

spot on,this free ad for phs has dragged on too long,plenty of pimping and no blocks

Thanks, Yes this was my point and with aust getting a better future deal on there boards it makes sence to take the wife on a weekend shopping trip and pick a board from the MANY retailers who would love my loot.

And i could even sup all day on demo boards before the purchase in aust, Rather than paying even more here just so the agent can bring in a demo.

Something stinks.


I like PSH and have recomended them to several people one of which is kagey who wants one. But he also has the problem of feeling like his balls are being yanked.

Kagey if you read this mate how about a trip to oz mate, we may have to leave the wifes at home though as i dont think the airline will take sheep.

Tough audience...

this thread went on for quite a while before the manufacturer, importer and a retailer got involved to shed some light on a question posed by a customer.

I have not seen any pimping beyond a few guys, that to my knowledge are not in the industry, saying they really like the PSH kit. Well good on them for representing gear they like and letting us all know I say.

I ride Naish and work about as far away from the industry as possible... I'll keep my fun and work separate thanks very much. And for now, I'm just going to relax, enjoy my surfing and whatever happens happens. I'll still be having fun either way.

Can we go surfin now?????farout,
Robbo

yeah, i'm becoming a bit disappointed by these brand driven topics on this forum. even blane had seen enough and tried to change the topic. two pages tops was all that was needed imo.when ever naish or psh comes up on a topic you just know its going to go on for a couple of weeks.mean while other stuff just gets swept away. what will happen is you end up getting a backlash against the brand, almost loving it to death. i expect to be bagged here, but i'm losing interest in this forum and i'm not the only one
cheers

lacey said...

yeah, i'm becoming a bit disappointed by these brand driven topics on this forum. even blane had seen enough and tried to change the topic. two pages tops was all that was needed imo.when ever naish or psh comes up on a topic you just know its going to go on for a couple of weeks.mean while other stuff just gets swept away. what will happen is you end up getting a backlash against the brand, almost loving it to death. i expect to be bagged here, but i'm losing interest in this forum and i'm not the only one
cheers

Well said Lacey I have noted your lack of input of late btw everyone wants to knock a champion [}:)]

We are all probably guilty of the same, I agree with letting people know, who and what is a good thing,I am guilty as charged.
I raved about my Naish and again my new PSH,both great boards.I also raved and still rave about where I did my purchasing from,great people. Honest down to earth folk.

AA, is right,try make a living out of the industry(not easy),these people love what they do,they speak with passion.

mac

log man said...

Right on firstpoint . AA Whats your role here ,are you the importer , retailer or both ? What about you , Loco4olas , Session ? . I' ll say I'm not involved in the industry but if all you guys are then I'm pissing in the wind

I have no association with any manufacturer or retailer.

I bought 2 boards off AA direct-stoked on the boards and the service received-that's it.

Absolutely positive experience-so only positive things to say about PSH and Andrew Allen (and his 'assistant' Jason). I've recommended a number of friends to Andrew and PSH, they all share the same sentiment (none are posters in this thread).

PSH (via AA) support this site through advertising-neither Blane nor AA have pimped anything here-on the contrary, they've come on and attempted to clarify the position re the price reductions in USA and the ones coming here-and now they're getting flak for announcing price reductions-sh$t, some of you are a hard crowd to please!

And those that are pizzed about the length of the thread-ignore it, don't reply-start some new topics, contribute positively to a lively forum and discussion. It's not like other brands don't get a lot of attention-look at the Whopper thread, went on for ever about a single board, with limited market relevance-this is about an entire, market leading brand and the price reductions coming through-which WILL impact on ALL brands-bringing down board prices for all of us across the board.

I usually pay about aus$370-400 for my leading Australian brand (machine cut/hand finished) Australian made poly. shortboards-my mates think I'm crazing paying the prices I did for my PSH SUP boards and so do I, comparatively-so I'm stoked SUP board prices will start heading down-means the market is maturing and growing and volume is allowing this to happen-and means I (and other with the means and desire) can get a quiver going.

This topic is more than about just PSH.

Hi,

Im not pissed of at all, Iwas just stating the changes do not apply to us here.

Im happy with psh for sure. No problems what so ever

To lay it on the line i will add to this and explain why i was posting in the first place.

I have purchased a psh yes, Love the board .. yes

Wounderfull shapes service etc.. Yes

But my board was damaged in freight and as such had to be returned and a replacment to be sent maybe 3 month wait.

Awsome service from the nz agent and always in contact about the update on delivery etc.

But all i asked was if nz will benefit from the price reductions and i was told no
My question was why would i not be in on the price change as i am waiting on another board and also have left my funds in to pay for this.

So its not like im after a free board or anything ohhh hang on maybe

So since i was having to wait on new stock which well i cant do much about if i want quality, But i thought the new price might filter to the new board.

But as told nz will have no change.

It was just a question.

petemc said...

Hey BP if you ever want to come over to here to purchase a board or just for a hol you're more than welcome to stay here with me in Vic. I'll take you to down to the west coast where you can demo some boards, meet some great SUPers and have a blast in the water.

By the way....we have real beer down here and sheep are not an option

Thanks for the offer The offer is also open to yourself for here

Ahh ummm Ahhhh mmm

Any takers, Just seeing if it will go another page

Ohhhhh

Timber, Bit short for me. What about the rest of the line up??