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laceys lane
laceys lane
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20 May 2009 11:07am
62mac said...

and way did you take up stand up paddle boarding?


good topic, everyone has a story.i was having problems with my surfing due to doing a lot of snow skiing.my coach suggested surfing a mal for a bit, wasn't real keen on that. then i day he said he had been doing some standup and i should have a go. we did and i was hooked.we decided to drop the coaching as supping would show me what i needed to do. the time will come when my supping and shortboarding will even out a bit, but at the moment i have to make myself hop the shortie.
cheers
rodriguez
rodriguez
VIC
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20 May 2009 11:48am
Yep still do ,but i have to say it's only when the wind gets to strong for sup.Started surfing in the 60's, went thru the surf progression to short boards, and back out to long again in 1990.To many injuries made the fishies and shorties just no fun.I have and still do enjoy l'boards but the sup is definately were i'm heading.I was looking for all and any excuse to stay in the water,then sup came along at just the right time,not getting any youngerWhat i really love about sup is it's like learning to surf all over again, but with water/surf knowhow, and how it involves not excludes the whole family.I don't know who it was at billabong who coined there slogan ONLY A SURFER KNOWS THE FEELING, but i think that should now be, only a SUPA knows the feeling.CHEERS GUYS
AA
AA
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AA AA
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20 May 2009 12:29pm
Great thread!

Makes me think I should be getting back on a short board again....
I flicked them 15 years ago for a custom epoxy Mal. No one rode epoxy back then and I had a HUGE (non-visible advantage). Then it just got boring....

Both Tom Carroll and Simon Anderson reckon it is great for your shortboard skills, but not necessarily Longboard skill. As it improves your upper body strength and balance it would be interesting to hop back on a short board on those epic days, (get back a little respect from the locals) and see how it all came together - food for thought!

Keep the stories coming!

AA
Hbomb
Hbomb
4 posts
4 posts
20 May 2009 10:56am
Have surfed my whole life... loved it.. was lucky to see some beautiful places travelling doing it.... had a crash Racing MX out at Reedy Creek 2 years ago, blew my arm out, had the shoulder recon last year..the pompous ass surgeon recommend I have a go at this "stand up thing, hes seen around" so i dont lose my mind, and annoy the sh#t out of all those that love me... and whammo ...I am addicted........checkout Lairds Hamiltons reasons below in an interview I am sure we can all relate to something in this great interview (cut and paste below link in address space above):

dailystoke.com/

Hunter
P.S I am getting to a Range of Movement were I can probably go back to Prone, but cant see myself doing it...this is the Juice for me now...the workout , the constant negotiation with Mother Ocean (and her various forces), and being humbled again...its been almost like learning to surf again.. and most of us have forgotten this.. as it was a while again when were little smart ass groms...
Tak
Tak
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Tak Tak
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20 May 2009 1:01pm
Thought I should add mine as to read this you'd think nearly every SUP was ridden by a veteran surfer (although I'm a little jealous that I've come to the game so late)

I arrived in Oz ten years ago and so hadn't surfed when I was growing up. I'd alawys wanted to surf but hadn't made the time and now with two young boys I didn't want to give up the considerable amount of time away from them that it would take me to get competant on the shortboard.

A friend mentioned how much fun he'd had SUPping and I figured it ticked all my boxes about being out on the ocean that surfing would so I'd give it a go.

I haven't stopped smiling since

I'm hopeful that when I do eventually have a go on a shortboard that my SUP experience will help me.
wakamole
wakamole
WA
21 posts
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20 May 2009 12:17pm
I'm more like you Tak
Grew up in Vancouver - no waves except a full day journey to icey water - bugger that.
Married an Aussie and moved to Perth.
Always wanted to surf but too much aggro for a 40yo kook. Stood up on a longboard once or twice...too much work for too little pay-off as a learner.

My uncle has surfed for 45 years or so had an operation and wanted to stay in the ocean but couldn't surf much anymore - he got hooked on SUP a few years ago and is slowly brainwashing everyone in his reach.

Borrowed his board for a month and the next month bought a second hand JL10'8".

Still a 42 yo kook but who cares! Catching waves most times and learning heaps and getting fitter than I have been in years.

Best thing is it doesn't matter what the day is like waves or no waves I go out at least 2 hrs a day every day I am at home as long as it isn't HOWLING wind (even then I've been known to try). A nice long paddle is a relaxing way to spend the morning getting fit and flailing around in the waves (as far away from ANYONE as I can get) is super fun too.

Completely, totally, hooked. And now the wife wants one!

Scott
Starlet gc
Starlet gc
NSW
374 posts
NSW, 374 posts
20 May 2009 2:23pm
Been riding a short board for 14 years.... and got to the stage where I got curious and wanted to have a go! Now i have 2 sups,,, and totally hooked!
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
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20 May 2009 4:00pm
AA said...

Great thread!

Makes me think I should be getting back on a short board again....
I flicked them 15 years ago for a custom epoxy Mal. No one rode epoxy back then and I had a HUGE (non-visible advantage). Then it just got boring....

Both Tom Carroll and Simon Anderson reckon it is great for your shortboard skills, but not necessarily Longboard skill. As it improves your upper body strength and balance it would be interesting to hop back on a short board on those epic days, (get back a little respect from the locals) and see how it all came together - food for thought!

Keep the stories coming!

AA


Andrew-I think it DEFINITELY helps your shortboard skills-the amount of strength you need on a SUP (and gain from the paddling and riding) can then be applied to your shortboard-puts that much more strength/power into your surfing-together with the conditioning you get from the paddling and riding-it's all a bonus-you end up being in the ocean more than if just riding a shortboard solely and so you get that added connection plus the extra fitness-despite the glares from shortboarders when riding a SUP-little do they know that there's a huge advantage when you jump back on the shortboard

Jon E B
Jon E B
71 posts
71 posts
20 May 2009 2:10pm
I shortboarded for 30 yrs...
Then, not so suddenly, with my girlfriend pregnant and soon to be expecting, I decided that I had better put off that trip to Costa. Before I knew it, I had peeled the calendar a few times and knew I would, all too soon, end up looking at June (=beginning of the flat months, here in Florida). Now that my little one was born, I figured I would have to be quite the arse to take-off on a surf trip with the guys. Out of desperation, I ordered my first SUP - an 11' custom from Steve Walden. I am now on my third SUP. Even though I have maybe 15 boards at the house, I have not prone surfed in over a year.
I hope to SUP another 30 years...
Glass off
Glass off
124 posts
124 posts
20 May 2009 2:49pm
Hey guys - interesting to read all the different paths to Paddle-surfing.

For me - 25yrs shortboard surfing - but never fitted into the typical surfer-stereotype, I still skateboard (throwback from the 70's) oldschool bowls & vert. Always keen for new challenges - hang-gliding/ paragliding, windsurfing/kiting have all side-tracked me for years & although I never stopped surfing I'm more a Jack-of-all-trades & a master of none.

The crowd and hassling side of surfing has always really pissed me off, I dislike ego-mania,aggresion & selfishness in sport, it's so opposite to the reason I do these sports - I'm there to get AWAY from the constraints of society.

Things have been getting pretty bad since surfing became "mainstream", there are just too many surfers & not enough waves. I have always been a kind of surf-janitor, even on my short-board, steering clear of the roosters, patiently sitting wide for the bigger freak set-waves or cleaning up the little ones no-one wants - so Paddlesurfing fits this way of surfing really well - if I can be bothered with joining the pack....

What I really like about paddle-surfing is the ability to paddle to outer breaks where web-cams & rabid surfers dont exist..... Yet.
laceys lane
laceys lane
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20 May 2009 4:54pm
loco4olas said...

AA said...

Great thread!

Makes me think I should be getting back on a short board again....
I flicked them 15 years ago for a custom epoxy Mal. No one rode epoxy back then and I had a HUGE (non-visible advantage). Then it just got boring....

Both Tom Carroll and Simon Anderson reckon it is great for your shortboard skills, but not necessarily Longboard skill. As it improves your upper body strength and balance it would be interesting to hop back on a short board on those epic days, (get back a little respect from the locals) and see how it all came together - food for thought!

Keep the stories coming!

AA


Andrew-I think it DEFINITELY helps your shortboard skills-the amount of strength you need on a SUP (and gain from the paddling and riding) can then be applied to your shortboard-puts that much more strength/power into your surfing-together with the conditioning you get from the paddling and riding-it's all a bonus-you end up being in the ocean more than if just riding a shortboard solely and so you get that added connection plus the extra fitness-despite the glares from shortboarders when riding a SUP-little do they know that there's a huge advantage when you jump back on the shortboard




i might add to this.when i first started, after about three weeks of supping i went for a shortie. got a nice running beachie. i pulled off 4 top to bottom rio,s and finished with a big closeout.no funny turns in between, just on it. now i could always do those moves, but to do 4 with no loss of technique and have the strength and power i put directly down to the supping. i can't recall ever surfing a wave that well, very stoked. imho every up and comer surfer with stars in their eyes should be using sup as part of their training.
cheers
Casso
Casso
NSW
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20 May 2009 5:54pm
So true about SUPing improving your shortboarding. It definitely increases your leg strength, flexibility and balance - all very good assets for radical shortboard surfing.

I remember after jumping back on my 6'3" after a decent stint on my 11 footer and it was amazing - big, powerful turns and hardly falling off.

I've only ever won my local boardriders monthly comp three times (in eight years) - two of these were after I had started SUPing.

My highest annual pointscore placing (third) was last year - after a year "on the SUP".

I'm supposed to be getting older, weaker, less flexible and have less balance - but SUPing is turning back my clock!

firstpoint
firstpoint
QLD
613 posts
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20 May 2009 6:24pm
Gorgo said...

This is starting to turn into a bit of a revivalist prayer meeting. Group hug anybody?

Aaahhh was a sinner but aaahhhh wuz sayev-ed bah the hoooollllly SUP!

Somebody fart or something to break the mood. We need some virgins to sacrifice. [}:)]


you didnt answer the question
boardbumps
boardbumps
NSW
698 posts
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20 May 2009 6:42pm
Not only is it good for your short boarding, it is great for your kite surfing.
Its just a little bit harder to change down to short boards. I never really had a problem changing between mals and shorties. With SUPA boards it just takes a couple of waves then it clicks and then everything looks makeable.

Rod
boylos
boylos
NSW
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20 May 2009 6:44pm
Well I came from a swimming/surf club /longboard back ground ,and was In Hawaii at Waikiki surfing and I said to my American mate whats that guy doing paddling way out the back? He said suping ..... I replyed stuff that it looks to hard!

Now I'm paddling 9k , and even though I enjoy longboarding more I've found that when the surfs no good I can go for a paddle and are really enjoying the long distance /downwinders and hope to do some ocean paddling races one day!

I've also found my fitness /balance and losing a few pies has made it easier and more enjoyable when I'm surfing

Love the sport!

Boylos
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
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20 May 2009 6:46pm
i started sup after spraining my wrist when kiting and not being able to push up onto my feet when surfing

that was october/november

i bought a sup, and have ridden it everyday since.... morning, noon or in the pond under the lights at night, in everything from 8" to 8'

my wrist healed great, my sup is trashed (going in for a long overdue service this weekend, been holding out and covering dings with tape so i didn't miss any time on the water)

since i got onto sup, i've ridden my short board three times but only in decent waves, my balance, speed and timing has improved so much when riding my short board, i'm now as excited about riding it as much as i am about riding my sup...

... its just the prone paddling that sucks
Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
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20 May 2009 7:11pm
I started surfing when I came to Australia (about 5.5 years ago) then found I plateaued out and couldn't get any better. I also wavesailed on the side whenever it was windy enough to bog out (or better). After reading lots of articles on the web and seeing some people out at Manly on SUP's (in tiny waves but having a great time) I realised it would fit well with my other sports: windy = windsurfing, glassy + waves = surfing, glassy + no waves = golf.

Now all I really do is SUP! I'm onto my 2nd SUP (9'6" Naish), haven't prone surfed for months and barely windsurf.

As for improving surfing I wouldn't know, however I went out on my waveboard on Sunday in very gusty conditions, and had so much more balance/control when waist deep in water in the lulls! I can't wait to get some DTL in decent wind and waves - my wavesailing will be a lot better.
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
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20 May 2009 6:56pm
Surfing for 24 years, windsurfing for 22 years, kiting 4 years and sup for 3 years.
No good at any of them but lovin every miniute. Do it till i die.
62mac
62mac
WA
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20 May 2009 5:34pm
So it sounds like most of us come from a prone background,I am with Boylos.
The Waikiki trips which are a must do I wanted something to do when the surf was rubbish or too small. I started out hard and fast for the first four weeks,flat water paddling and then hit the surf ,which was not my original intention.I to have dropped some kegs,so much so my friends think I have some illness. I once suffered from a dickie back but that's history thanks to SUP'ing

Another question,who caught their first wave on a SUP? and not a surfboard?

mac
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
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20 May 2009 5:41pm
me!

windsurfing then wave sailing background, i am too lazy to surf...Greenroom, nagged and nagged me to get a SUP.

First go, first wave = hooked 4 life ----- thanks greenroom..

jumping on a SUP was toooooooooo easy, i think my wave sailing gave me a big heads up for balance and how the waves work,, although took a while to learn da rulez and share de waves....

I'm at a stage now where i cant choose between wave sailing and SUP, but i think the scales are going to tip to sup and i freekin LLLLOOOOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEE wave sailing.

aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh best o both worlds
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
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20 May 2009 7:49pm
Similar to Windy.

Have wavesailed for about 20 years, traveled all over the place doing that and doing comps at all levels.

Jumped on a SUP late last year and was hooked, bought an 11'4", and recently moved onto a 9'6". Now I am torn between wanting no wind to hit the SUP or wind for a sail.

Have ridden lots of waves on a windsurfer, however have been finding out surfing the SUP is very different and do now wish I had a prone surfing backgound. Love learning something new though.
Brooko
Brooko
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1672 posts
20 May 2009 5:53pm
Cant beleive how many windsurfers are into it
mollydooka
mollydooka
WA
252 posts
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20 May 2009 6:02pm
Been reading with interest all the replies, thought I might as well add a slightly different bent: mad-keen surfer in the 60's/70's, started on a Coolite, first board was in the days of no legropes (surfed Cactus without a legrope---scary). Lost interest in the 80's, became a snow-ski bum.
Back into it in the 90's, lived in Gero (Geraldton) for 3 years, pretty good waves. Moved back to Perth 1998 & that just about killed the surfing for me. Became a total golf-nut as Perth surf is very uninspiring. Bought a 9' mal after a trip to Noosa in 2002, back into it. But the golf kept winning (also very addictive).

Saw my first sup in Zarautz, Spain, September 2006 while surfing a great little beach break on a hired 9' mal. Only one sup out. "What the..." Checked it out on the web when I got back home but thought "nah".
November 2007, faced with a long summer of cr*p surf in Perth, thought I might give wind-surfing a go. Local wind-surf shop showed me a big Mistral, said "good for beginners, & you can stand-up paddle it too", & handed me a paddle

The rest is history!! No wind-surfing, cancelled membership at golf club, selling the mal, onto my 2nd sup, out there every chance I can get, almost feel like 25 again (& I ain't no spring chicken )
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
20 May 2009 6:09pm
I'm pretty much your stereotypical midlife crisis surfer. As a kid I used to live near the beach and would be in the water all the time mainly spear fishing, poaching abalone, sailing, swimming getting chest rash from my surfmat. I had a family quite young by today's standards, lost contact with many of my friends and spent the good part of 15 years without weekends to myself working and being the family guy. Now my kids are just about grown up and as for old friends - they are all having babies. I kind of feel for them - as I never liked the idea of old parents. For me the best thing is I've come out the other side I'm financially comfortable and most of all I have my health and have time for myself again.

I can't think of better way to spend what time I have on this earth other than being on my board in the ocean having a blast.
62mac
62mac
WA
24860 posts
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20 May 2009 6:25pm
I hear you Oliver,at 46 I have two daughters both well into their last year at uni and a son with 1 and a bet years of schooling to go, I also lost contact with my old surfing buddies because I married young had the family building houses and so on.The flip side is I surf with my son who is now a better surfer than me and at the dinning table tonight my eldest wants mum and dad to go bloody clubbing with her this Saturday night to celebrate her birthday I declined So life is good and a midlife crisis is the best thing that came happen
Love your posts.

mac
laceys lane
laceys lane
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20 May 2009 8:45pm
hey 62 mac this has turned out to be really good topic. really good to read all the stories.all this talk about how good suping is for shortboarding will probably have every back on them when the weather breaks on the goldie.i remember watching a guy suping on a back beach, he was pretty good. anyway he disappeared and came back out on his shortie and preceded to rip the place apart.its got me thinking about a cross competition for those that like comps.imagine guys and gals having to change over from sup to shortie and back again i would watch that. it might help relationships between everyone in the lineups
cheers

mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
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20 May 2009 8:55pm
Nar,first wave was on a Kentucky Fried Chicken foamy in 1969 at 5 y.o ,push-in take off assisted by my Dad.My folks still have footage on old reel film,
Robbo
62mac
62mac
WA
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20 May 2009 7:02pm
lacey said...

hey 62 mac this has turned out to be really good topic. really good to read all the stories.all this talk about how good suping is for shortboarding will probably have every back on them when the weather breaks on the goldie.i remember watching a guy suping on a back beach, he was pretty good. anyway he disappeared and came back out on his shortie and preceded to rip the place apart.its got me thinking about a cross competition for those that like comps.imagine guys and gals having to change over from sup to shortie and back again i would watch that. it might help relationships between everyone in the lineups
cheers




Gee glad its turned out to be a good topic Lacey,unlike my SHAME post when I first joined the forum [}:)] Did it stir up the pot [}:)] Good idea with the duel surfing aspect,only I haven't ridden a shortie for the past 20 years bring on the longboards
laceys lane
laceys lane
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19804 posts
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20 May 2009 9:07pm
62mac said...

lacey said...

hey 62 mac this has turned out to be really good topic. really good to read all the stories.all this talk about how good suping is for shortboarding will probably have every back on them when the weather breaks on the goldie.i remember watching a guy suping on a back beach, he was pretty good. anyway he disappeared and came back out on his shortie and preceded to rip the place apart.its got me thinking about a cross competition for those that like comps.imagine guys and gals having to change over from sup to shortie and back again i would watch that. it might help relationships between everyone in the lineups
cheers




Gee glad its turned out to be a good topic Lacey,unlike my SHAME post when I first joined the forum [}:)] Did it stir up the pot [}:)] Good idea with the duel surfing aspect,only I haven't ridden a shortie for the past 20 years bring on the longboards

hey, why don't you have a crack at it again. you might be surprised!
62mac
62mac
WA
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20 May 2009 7:10pm
aus301 said...

Similar to Windy.

Jumped on a SUP late last year and was hooked, bought an 11'4", and recently moved onto a 9'6".

That's a huge step down in length aus301,how did you find the transition?

mac
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