Hey Guys

let me know if you are sailing around the area this weekend and I'll try and have a chat. Had to go the Sydney last Saturday.

Hi Ash,
I'm available all weekend.
Sunday arvo might suit me to foil in the kincumber broadwater. (if the predictions hold)
Monday is looking like the day. If I had to guess, we will most likely be sailing up near Saratoga sailing club, but that is a negotiation yet to be done.
Other than that, friday & saturday look like sup surfing Umina beach might be the best option. We have plenty of spare gear if you or you and family want to try that.

Also just letting you know I have a tandem windsurfer which is an absolute hoot with family. Great way to get a timid person started, or first planing experience for a more advanced. Let me know any time you would like to give it a go.


We have a "viber" group which you can join if you want to be part of planning our next session , and solving little gear problems etc.

Hi Ash, enjoying your home ground again today.
Also met John, on old school windsurfer/ Hey john come join us some time, you can't para-glide every day....

Jethrow said..
I'm always amazed watching the speeds the foilers get in these video and then see no harness hooked in!

I've certainly done no analytics about the forces, but I think the lower drag coefficient of the foil means the power generated by the rig is transferred more directly to board speed.
As there is less resistance from the board traveling through the water, it simply goes faster much sooner, there is less strain on the sailer holding the rig. As a result you don't need the harness so much.

I find that once you start to fly it's immediately noticeable how much less effort it is to hold the rig.

Come give it a try one weekend. It's even better when you're flying yourself.

Heavy1 said..

Thanks Lyndon, great footage and video editing. And wow, that sunset really was spectacular!

AUS817 said..
Not really windsurfing, but Lyndon and I SUPed from Saratoga Sailing Club to Kincumber Broadwater today. Great afternoon to be on the water and quite a lot to see along the way (Fish and Stingrays). Interesting to see how the outgoing tide affected our board speed along the way. Woy Woy channel being the fastest part of our trip despite some strong paddling further along the route.

Its training for windsurfing and exploring for places to windsurf, so i reckon it counts.

Good afternoon

Id really like to learn how to wind sail.

I sup and have kayaked however would like to learn a new skill and damm it look like so much fun.

I don't have any equipment but If there is a school on the coast teaching id be keen to lean ? and with there right advice I can purchase the gear required.

Are there any wind sailing schools on the Coast

Regards Andrew

Firstly we are having a practice with LTs out of saratoga after lunch tomorrow , sat 18th.
Relay handover , Le Mans starts etc I believe is the agenda.
email AUS817 for details.


Next , Just a plug for Kincumber broad water, off broad water drive saratoga.
Such a great place in a south west breeze. Looooong uninterrupted reaches with relatively flat water.

The walk in and parking is a bit tough and the walk out is a killer at low tide, but its still totally worth it to me anyway.

WaynoB said..

Heavy1 said..
Firstly we are having a practice with LTs out of saratoga after lunch tomorrow , sat 18th.
Relay handover , Le Mans starts etc I believe is the agenda.
email AUS817 for details.


Next , Just a plug for Kincumber broad water, off broad water drive saratoga.
Such a great place in a south west breeze. Looooong uninterrupted reaches with relatively flat water.

The walk in and parking is a bit tough and the walk out is a killer at low tide, but its still totally worth it to me anyway.

Looks good Lyndon, must give it a go when it gets a bit warmer. Liked some of your greatest hits at the start. LOL

Kincumber broadwater is to SW what green point is to NE. that is good topography for steady wind, but little chop.
Up wind of the launch about 400m, are weed beds like peel st, however when windy there is negligible weed in the deeper water.
At a very high tide the weed beds don't work to suppress the chop and so you do get some chop then. Half tide is best compromise for walk out and no chop.

The best launch is accessed from a walk lane at 94 Broadwater drive saratoga.
Once at the end of the lane you are best to turn right and go to the beach a little to the south west. The beach to the left is not as firm.

From the grassy edge the sand is firm for about 25m, which is enough to clear a short fin at mid tide.
After that it is may be 50 m of really boggy stuff, where every 3rd step is bottomless. Yuk.
I usually lay on my board for that bit (upside down) and float over it pushing with my feet.

Its foil deep in line with the oyster racks to the south. Thats where the ribbon weed starts and its pretty firm.

As I say , especially at low tide, the set up and walk out is a chore (you have been warned), but to get canton style wind and flat water, without any weed and clean water, .... its worth it to me , anyway.

Lastly Ash says it works in NE as well, but I can only personally recommend it if its between w and s . Don't go there for SE or NW.

Lastly the reaches are nearly 2KM, without the risk of hitting bottom , even with a foil.

There are submerged rocky shelves about 50m out from the opposite shore, but just stay a little out from the opposite shore and you will be fine.

Lyndon and I had a very lightweight sail yesterday from Saratoga. I gave Lyndon a few pointers in light wind pumping so lookout next time we're racing in super light breeze.

We also did some research for the Relay event I'm trying to put together. Saratoga will be an awesome venue for this, more into to follow once I get approval from the club and the NOR created.

Sam and I are sailing from Gosford Sailing Club today from 12:30pm. Anyone wishing to join us is more than welcome.

Lyndon, I'm in for Tuesday and the forecast is looking good at this stage.

Hey there "Hobie hairdresser" ,

That Hobie needs to get out there. Happy to help make it happen.
Why not give it a go this weekend, or try a SUP.

Just post here or send me a seabreeze email.

Canton, August 22. Gusty and cold but a good time had by all.

How are you guys transitioning people from low-riding to foiling? I've noticed a few down here on Pittwater getting their sea-legs by towing behind a RIB to get used to the foil. Maybe some try the eBoard route? Or do you just go the "sink or swim" method of just getting straight onto a foiling windsurfer and going at it?

I must admit, although I've never foiled before, I feel that having the feel and pressure of a sail to lean against would feel more comfortable while trying to deal with the board.

Just finished editing my Whitsunday Solo expidition.
Ok ok , its not NSW but Im from the saratoga club ... NSW