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BWalnut said..
Had my first go on the Orbit 3.5m.

I have an upwind that is kind of a benchmark. It’s about 12 minutes every time. A little more or a little less depending on the wind, sail and foil.
First try on the orbit: 7:51

It's not perfect. I have some things to sort out with it. However, that level of improvement on upwind is something that cannot be ignored.

scheggia said..






I'm 70 kg. When I compared the PR V1 against the Gong 4.0, I was on my 100L DW board and a downwind foil (770R). In this comparison I was on my 73L mid-length and a "surf" foil (850S). I started appreciating bigger parawings after trying the Skin 5.4. It gave me a lot more range with my smaller board and foil, while still packing really well. The LTX takes that concept even further: it packs even better, has better VMG throughout the range, loses a touch of low end, and gives you tons of high end. In fact, the more powered it gets, the better its VMG becomes. The PR V2 5.7 definitely gives you better VMG and a better overall range than the Skin 5.4, but for me it's still a nightmare to pack. Again, if I'd tested the PT-Skin 5.4 against the PR V2 5.7, I most probably wouldn't have decided to change my parawing. Same thing that I did after trying the PR v1, I just decided that it wasn't worth the change.... But as soon as I tried the LTX 5.5 against the Skin 5.4, I came home and placed an order. Exactly the same thing happened the first time I tried the 4.3 Hybrid during a demo: I came home and ordered one. For me, it's really that simple.

scheggia said..






I'm 70 kg. When I compared the PR V1 against the Gong 4.0, I was on my 100L DW board and a downwind foil (770R). In this comparison I was on my 73L mid-length and a "surf" foil (850S). I started appreciating bigger parawings after trying the Skin 5.4. It gave me a lot more range with my smaller board and foil, while still packing really well. The LTX takes that concept even further: it packs even better, has better VMG throughout the range, loses a touch of low end, and gives you tons of high end. In fact, the more powered it gets, the better its VMG becomes. The PR V2 5.7 definitely gives you better VMG and a better overall range than the Skin 5.4, but for me it's still a nightmare to pack. Again, if I'd tested the PT-Skin 5.4 against the PR V2 5.7, I most probably wouldn't have decided to change my parawing. Same thing that I did after trying the PR v1, I just decided that it wasn't worth the change.... But as soon as I tried the LTX 5.5 against the Skin 5.4, I came home and placed an order. Exactly the same thing happened the first time I tried the 4.3 Hybrid during a demo: I came home and ordered one. For me, it's really that simple.

Pacoo said..
At 15 knt I will be on the PR V2 5m or even on the 4,3m comfortably. I do not think you are comparing the right sizes, which is part of the question: why use a 5.7 m if I can use a much smaller size?

scheggia said..
Finally finished editing my back-to-back comparison of the 777 LTX 5.5 and Ozone Pocket Rocket V2 5.7. I tested them in around 15 kts, right in the Pocket Rocket’s range and at the lower end of the LTX’s. I originally went into the comparison focused mainly on upwind performance, but after going through the GPS data and switching between them, I realised the more interesting discussion was actually happening elsewhere. In my opinion, for a big parawing, packability and the whole stow/redeploy workflow can be just as important as pure upwind performance — especially when doing laps and repeated downwind runs. I’ve included GPS analysis, handling impressions, and a side-by-side look at packing/stowing in the video. Curious what you prioritize more in a big parawing: pure flying performance or how easy it is to get it out of the way once you’re on foil?

Hdip said..
BRM L1 6.5 review. Rode it twice in the light wind it was designed for. Topanga in Los Angeles. Today there were waves to ride too.
Thing is good. Riding a 60L board and I got up in 12-15 MPH wind consistently.
The thing just wants to fly. It get’s off the water easily. If you hold the D handle with 1 hand it just naturally goes to the 12 o’clock position and waits there for you. I would fall off and be in the water, just held onto the front of the d handle with one hand and it would patiently just float above me and help lift me back onto the board.
The thing is huge, but if you drag a wingtip going over chop, the wingtip just kind of bounces off the water. It doesn’t drag and throw you in the water like an inflatable hand wing would.
Jibing is the same as any other parawing. If you can keep tension in the lines, it’s no harder than others.
It sits deeper in the window which is why you get extra low end and grunt to get up. But that also means you will definitely need to hook in to drive it upwind. I figured out the angles a bit better today. So I would say it took me 2 sessions to figure out how to go upwind properly. It’ll probably get better too with more sessions.
The D handle also keeps the thing from tangling really well. I didn’t have a single tangle today. I was going with A line stows. You have to look at the handle to separate the A lines and gather both sides together since they are attached on each side of the D handle.
Redeploying wasn’t too bad. It’s so big you can’t just throw it out. You have to look for the blue marks on the leading edge and spread it out a bit to get some wind in the sail. I had quite a few stash, ride wave, successful redeploys today. That will get better with time too I’m sure.
So my only complaint is not really a complaint since I always hook in anyway. As long as you use a harness it’s a great parawing for our light wind wave spots.
Thanks go out to Frankie for grabbing a demo for us in LA. If anyone wants to try it, it’ll be floating around Malibu for awhile.

Retina said..



In my opinion you gain low end maybe better upwind. But I rather go a little bit larger pw with good line length or better board. I will never buy a parawing again that has long lines. 2 pull is deal breaker for me. No afterburner for me in larger sizes . Hope smaller sizes has ok/good length. Hope Ozone surprises me.

BWalnut said..







I think it's a mistake to evaluate a parawing based on the angles only. Ignoring the rest of the experience, the conditions of the day, the foil selection, etc. leaves far too much out of the equation.



Paia tracks, nothing special if all we are doing is looking at angles. But if you saw me riding one handed unhooked toeside in 40 knots with a 3.1m you'd see there is something special going on.















This is a good take 👍

When I look back at the angles on my v1 pocket rockets, yes, they are better. But I'm not switching back to my old foils and v1 rockets because the entire experience on the water, enhancing my ability to progress with smaller boards, smaller foils, all do to the range of the newer sails, is a complete joy.

I can't fault you for leaning on the images. We are all trying to avoid getting burned on purchases. However, I'd encourage everyone to let go of hyperfocusing on any single trait. Parawinging and foiling in general is a complete package that includes the board, foil, mast, tail, and local conditions. There's a lot of ways to have an amazing time available to us and we gotta stay curious about new opportunities.

BWalnut said..
A friend sent me some 2.5 hybrid angles from Maui:


vs my 2.4m day on the LTX in the Gorge:

Two different riders on different foils in different areas on different days so I take it with a grain of salt but... I think it's pretty obvious that in the 2.4 vs 2.5 size the hybrid is a beast if you are going upwind hard. It would be really interesting to do a 2.4 ltx vs 2.5 hybrid back to back test to feel the pros and cons.

BWalnut said..
7.5 vmg with the 3.1 and 720 today which surprised me. So... VMG feels a bit unreliable for me, at least in the spots I ride. The 3.1m LTX ate up gusts today that people on 2.1m sails said were too much. Really happy with it. Going to try to focus on the review and getting that wrapped up ASAP.

BWalnut said..
A facebook comment/review:

"I have the 3.5 in Hood River. The low-end is impressive with the PAL line trim. It’s more powerful than my 3.0 V1 Pocket Rocket and—I think—not quite as powerful as my V1 3.6, but that PAL definitely lets me capitalize on gusts for water starts and ride harder upwind angles in lulls when I would otherwise have to bear off the wind a bit to keep from losing speed. It’s tricky to specify its low end at my weight (~90 kg) because I might be able to water start off a good river bump in fairly light wind with my HA1080, but maybe you’re riding in the ocean with current that behaves very differently. I’ll humbly take a guess at the range I’ve enjoyed it in…maybe 15 knots to 28 knots? We experience a wider wind range here, and there’s no doubt a big difference between riding in constant light wind versus light wind lulls that are frequently punctuated by stronger (helpful) gusts. Also, I’ve found that it stows rather nicely in its low end and rather difficultly (for me, so far) in overpowered conditions."

I asked him if he's maxed it out at all:

"Yeah, I’ve had it in strong gusty conditions. 35 gets exciting."

Thatspec said..






Closest thing we have now for real world use of the PPC, well done!! If the guy was talking about yesterday 07/27, I was also out in the same zone on a V1 4.3m PR. I'm pretty skeptical that a double skin will do much better than this upwind in the Gorge where reaches are short but looking forward to be proven wrong. Theoretically they have to point higher but this is already 9.5+ Kn VMG upwind. Maybe you can get the guy to plug a .GPX file into Wrens VMG calculator ?



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airsail said..
Hopefully you have good wind at your location, under 15 knots is no go for para.

BWalnut said..






Astute observation. It's on my mind as well. I've mentioned at least once that I wasn't sure if the LTX was the #1 choice for upwind but I'm still collecting data. My internal notes have me looking at it pretty closely. Interestingly, I went head to head with a buddy on the 777 Hybrid today and was keeping up with him perfectly which made me scratch my head.

Here's a couple tracks from today:


I feel like the s3 and LTX look exactly the same with the same 710cm^2 foil shown above.



My worst tracks, are always on the Code 720s. My best tracks, have always been on a foil I haven't ridden recently. The Silk 1050 v1.

So, there's a missing data point here. Are these new parawings, really not as good at going upwind? Or is there a tipping point with foil size where a 90kg wet rider on a 720 and smaller sized foil going to be forced to yield upwind angles? I hope to test this theory Saturday with my 1050 to find out.