eppo said..

maxpwr said..
Great review, nailed a lot of good points.

I had a fly of the 3.5m on land yesterday, fly really nicely. The collapse lines work well but was shocked by how sharp they are. The battens concertina nicely though, no air in them like the prv2. I haven't worked out the best stash method yet, can't seem to wrap up the green lines nicely. Included harness line appreciated! I was a bit pissed when my pr didn't come with one.. *crickets*

Hopefully get it out on the water today.

I now get pretty much 100 percent redeploy and that’s after stashing…

I use a similar technique shown by Jeff in vid below except the sequence is slightly different and I collect the lines differently.

After i collect the battens in the same way I lay the bar in the same position as jeff
does BEFORE I collect the lines.

I then grab the back lines from the leader … and also the A lines from the other leader connection - pull tight and wrap around other side of bar (as jeff does). Then fold etc.

Again another advantage of having only two lines on the frigate. And the bar is right in front of you so easy to get to the two leader connections.

Jeff’s method of grabbing the lines with the bar still under the arm can work but i find it’s awkward and you can miss lines in the collection.

Be honest once the bar is on the front side of the battens you can ride for a while - no rush. I am always aiming to have the battens and bar in one hand as you can take your time then and also rides waves.

ps can do a vid if ya really keen…

Yah do that man good idea, sharing is caring. Love to see pack and stow examples on the Frigate v2. I need more discipline, such a lazy packer…lol

freesailor said..

eppo said..

maxpwr said..
Great review, nailed a lot of good points.

I had a fly of the 3.5m on land yesterday, fly really nicely. The collapse lines work well but was shocked by how sharp they are. The battens concertina nicely though, no air in them like the prv2. I haven't worked out the best stash method yet, can't seem to wrap up the green lines nicely. Included harness line appreciated! I was a bit pissed when my pr didn't come with one.. *crickets*

Hopefully get it out on the water today.

I now get pretty much 100 percent redeploy and that’s after stashing…

I use a similar technique shown by Jeff in vid below except the sequence is slightly different and I collect the lines differently.

After i collect the battens in the same way I lay the bar in the same position as jeff
does BEFORE I collect the lines.

I then grab the back lines from the leader … and also the A lines from the other leader connection - pull tight and wrap around other side of bar (as jeff does). Then fold etc.

Again another advantage of having only two lines on the frigate. And the bar is right in front of you so easy to get to the two leader connections.

Jeff’s method of grabbing the lines with the bar still under the arm can work but i find it’s awkward and you can miss lines in the collection.

Be honest once the bar is on the front side of the battens you can ride for a while - no rush. I am always aiming to have the battens and bar in one hand as you can take your time then and also rides waves.

ps can do a vid if ya really keen…

Yah do that man good idea, sharing is caring. Love to see pack and stow examples on the Frigate v2. I need more discipline, such a lazy packer…lol

yeh okay … will do - hate doing it but hey …

Haha good piss take

eppo said..

Retina said..
Best video /info on how the V2 behaves. I won't get the V2.

good less kooks on it the better.

When reasoning fail people act like this. Please stop acting as a kid or leave this forum.

MeonAsh said..
Some of the things he points out are due to not flying the wing properly - the folding wing tips for example. Harness line is too far forward on his bar and he's riding depowered with no rear line tension. This is why many reviewers including myself don't recommend that the Frigate v2 is for beginners, because you need to understand how to fly the wing properly. The Orbit with it's wing tip collapse ..... same problem, same solution. Also happens on the Pocket Rocket V2 - usually when getting towards overpowered.

Yes of course you need to adapt to the pwing. But the reviewer is not a beginner.

MeonAsh said..
Some of the things he points out are due to not flying the wing properly - the folding wing tips for example. Harness line is too far forward on his bar and he's riding depowered with no rear line tension. This is why many reviewers including myself don't recommend that the Frigate v2 is for beginners, because you need to understand how to fly the wing properly. The Orbit with it's wing tip collapse ..... same problem, same solution. Also happens on the Pocket Rocket V2 - usually when getting towards overpowered.

Bingo.

In every single shot of him riding, his harness line is as far forward as it can be, he rides one handed with his hand very forward which means very little tension on the back lines.

He's having difficulty relaunching it as the wing is half-submerged. So when the pw tries to launch, the wingtip is filled with water and during the moment it takes for it to drain and regain its shape, it won't fly properly.
The trick is to pull on the opposite C-lines when it's in the water in order to drain the opposite wingtip so that when you relaunch it, it's clear of water.

He's even doing a half pulldown when trying to collapse the pw instead of one straight motion to the LE.

Then there are comments like
"And I can't tell if I am doing something wrong or not"
"I was told to put the harness line a little further back"
It takes away from his credibility as a skilled rider

It just reinforces that this is not a pw for everyone, but that you need a certain skill level and finesse to appreciate it and to fly it properly.
And when you do, it highly rewards you.