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24 Jun 2026 11:17pm
Was about to ask “are Starboard not using shims anymore?” before I read hangovers reply (I’m still on iq, bit out of the loop on new starboard gear), but yeah, reduce the shim angle is the traditional fix for too much power, because it tends to work. Move down the shims till you find the one that reduces the power enough.
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23 Jun 2026 10:30am
I wear contacts all the time as well, and like aero says, I’ve never had an issue with losing them. I have even opened eyes underwater when I’ve really had to and they stayed put, but probably a bit of luck on that one.


But if you’re not into the idea of contacts I think prescription sunnies are the only other real way to go. I did wear them right back when learning, but as I got better I found there really wasn’t enough water flushing them and was ending up with a different variety of sight impairment.
Reply in Topic: waist- or seatharness?
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16 Jun 2026 5:39am
bel29 said..
if you seek total freedom I can think of some other wearables you could ditch :D


Too cold for that over here in Aus in winter. Besides, it gets all sorts of funny looks at the beach.
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15 Jun 2026 3:01pm
Mark _australia said..

jdfoils said..
An i see broken foil tracks almost every week...




only as the manufacturers use rubbish longboard boxes and-or crappy install. Done right it’s a strong as DT and similar weight. Using surf boxes and the ridiculous Gorilla glue installs that surfers did a decade ago (that unfortunately a lot of folks still follow) is just asking to fail.


companies like DT as it’s a more simple install to get done by Asian factories.
Combined with a box that’s really easy to mould in big quantities at Cobra.
With most racey foils being DT that’s why it’s prevailed.


people come to me all the time to get tracks put in for adjustability and love the result. Seems a lot of folks want adjustability. I’ll be keen to see if the adjustable Tuttle is strong enough but with Slingshot pulling out of Oz I dunno if we will see much




My Mozzy installed deep tuttle is still going strong😁
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14 Jun 2026 6:52am
sailortrash said..
Look, Tuttle is fin-solution, to deal with side forces
there is very little of this in a foil, the force is vertical
doesn’t matter if the box goes through the deck, the pressure point is just in front of mast/deck attachment area
what u need is a pedestal solution. We see that implementation in mast/fuse connections. Starboard even went all in with 4 bolts. But those forces are way smaller than what u get on the deck in front of the mast.




Actually, the loads a foil can put on a board/box can be quite monstrous compared to anything a fin does. Theres a lot more leverage force going on at the end of a foil mast when the board gets swung around/heeled over than any fin can do. Only a formula fin might come close.

Thats what makes these adaptable designs somewhat scary, they no longer trap all that force on a small tapered area with a somewhat solidly built oversized box around it, they put the short lever end in a long open surface where the leverage ends up applying the load to the side of the box.

If you’re just foiling along bolt upright with a small foil on then you’re only going to be applying lots of vertical force. But if you’re going to head out and jump/twist/surf swell /turn corners etc, then you’d wanna hope they’ve built something very damn solid next to that long box.
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13 Jun 2026 11:34pm
But but, i thought having all that drag from a plate was incentive to learn not to touch down?

seriously though, like sailor trash said, why do they not just design a better plate? I’ve seen some pretty out there looking plates, but never anything that looks even slightly what i’d call streamlined.

at least this design has some slight improvements on the single track that appletree were calling “adjustable tuttle” a while back. Maybe this one might cope with your average weekend warrior winger, but not on a windfoil board, race or other. I wonder what Mr Tuttle would think if he saw his name attached to these adjustable designs, that don’t really match the patent? Maybe this one is functionally a bit closer, but technically its not.
Reply in Topic: waist- or seatharness?
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13 Jun 2026 10:51pm
miamiwindsurfe said..
Free foil, no harness or harness lines, no foot straps= freedom. Winger only use harness if racing , as longer as you use low drag modern foils and small sails...




Well, i can certainly wrap my head around the freedom of not using the harness when riding the swells/free foiling for a short time, i really wouldn’t read too much into what the wingers are up to.

A lot of them seem to be slow adopters of well established ways of doing things in other windsports (that would serve them well). a lot of the wingers i see now are in fact using harness lines, albeit with their “special” winging harnesses(belts?).

even wave sailors and freestylers use them, despite only using them between waves/tricks.

waist harness for me, but i really think its very much a personal preference thing.
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13 Jun 2026 10:34pm
The “evolution” in winging has really escalated a lot quicker than i thought it would. Was it like this at the dawn of windsurfing?


so much for it being the affordable windsport.







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12 Jun 2026 11:48am
Lets just say Pauline’s not my cup of tea and leave it at that….
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12 Jun 2026 7:15am




myusernam said..



Gee thanks for that mental image. Gonna have trouble sleeping now.
Reply in Topic: Heads up about The Pond
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10 Jun 2026 8:36pm
FormulaNova said..

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It'd be nice if it did open up to something usable again, but not holding my breath. Looks like the council may pick up the dredging again if nature helps. It'd be a shame if they dredge where they did before, it'd be the whole saga over again



Hey, if people are campaigning about red rubbish bins, maybe someone can campaign about not wasting money on dredging?

It sounds like the money would be better spent building/rebuilding another boatramp somewhere else where its not likely to get inundated with sand. Clearly where the yacht club is tells us that its difficult to stop sand buildup.

While they’re at it, if they could trim the top off tern island point back to the kite beach and replant some nice salt bush to hold everything in place, that’d be money well spent (well, from our perspective).



i think the boaties have had their turn with the space/council spending on maintenance. Our turn now.
Reply in Topic: Heads up about The Pond
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10 Jun 2026 5:48am
It’d be nice if it did open up to something usable again, but not holding my breath. Looks like the council may pick up the dredging again if nature helps. It’d be a shame if they dredge where they did before, it’d be the whole saga over again
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25 May 2026 10:04pm
Imax1 said..
Hey , what about laminating a board ,with one continuous thread , the way north makes those sails ? You could perfectly control the layers , angles of threads . Perfect stiffness , strength , twist , whatever you want. On a rotisserie , both sides all in one hit. I’m a god dam genius . I’ll accept a case of beer from whoever does this first.😀



Kinda like filament winding a mast?



Genius!

So easy even an AI could do it. No need for all those pesky workers!
Reply in Topic: Iq Vs Pwa
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23 May 2026 9:13am
Loving the drone work. It’s an awesome view getting that close, and on the lines they’re taking so we can see angle changes/sheeting/footwork etc. also glad to hear young Rafferty has toned his commentary down to normal. I used to just switch the sound off with his earlier work, much better now.

Grae definitely picked a a better lay line on the upwind. One of the few advantages of not being in the lead is getting to see if the leaders are making the mark or not (speaking from too much experience😂). I don’t know how some iq foilers can hook the back strap downwind. 10knots it’s doable, much more and suddenly there’s too much power there (for me). It would be interesting to know the rider weights, they’re all on 8.0m in iq. I can’t say I followed who rigged what in PWA races, but I’m wondering if Grae is a bit lighter than Johan is? It’s a slightly different ball game when you can’t use that bigger sail when you weigh more.
Reply in Topic: IQ Foil Takeoff Tips
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17 May 2026 10:54pm
What you can try:
less mast rake (if you can, 1.0 degree is pretty close to where it’ll sit naturally) if you’ve got a shim in on top of the mast, remove it.

bump the mast base (sail) back in the track. Thats possibly what the problem actually is given what you’ve said. The tuning can be finite once you start to dial it in, but for now , move it a decent amount, say 1cm + it should make lift off and staying up much easier. Moving it forward will help to keep the lift the foil gives you in check. Too far forward and the rig weight and down force from the sail will hold the board down.

also try the age old tip of…. More downhaul. Too tight a leech at the top of the sail will also counter your pumping efforts, and hold the nose down on certain points of sail.

is there weed where you sail? What you’ve described is what it feels like when you catch some.

its a bit counter intuative, but bigger boards are actually harder to pop onto the foil than smaller ones. Its what they can do once on the foil that they come into their own.

edit: some of the above might sound simplistic/stuff you’ve already encountered if you’ve been foiling for a while, but the importance of it all amplifies when you’re on a bigger board/higher aspect foil than freeride.
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6 May 2026 10:41am
I think there is a drgree of naivety in the younger generation. I once had a discussion with the youg fella at work about security on banking apps. He went a bit silent then told me with a smirk " no one's gonna steal your money" "because we're small fry and the crims aren't interested", apparently..

maybe they should have a mass compulsory screening of Terminator for anyone under age 35?
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5 May 2026 7:14am
Provided you can generate the initial energy required to get on the foil, you could use a plank of wood. Research the quaint sport "water skiing".

obviously you'll want a piece of wood a bit wider than what they use, but you'll get the idea. 35L is already well below what will float your body weight unless you're 5yrs old.
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4 May 2026 4:18pm
I think my job is safe for at least a bit longer. Each individual task could potentially be done by an ai run robot, but by the time it had all happened the human would have multi tasked and finished in half the time or less.
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1 May 2026 9:41pm
gs12 said..
if you have skills that AI can use, just create an account here:

rentahuman.ai/



I think we are somewhat already here. People planting questions on forums/bookface etc so ai can generate better answers/responses.

i'm willing to place a bet that a lot of wind/watersports answers from ai come from seabreeze.
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30 Apr 2026 8:48pm
Hmm, slaves to the AI. I bet they didn't see that one coming.
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30 Apr 2026 8:15pm
Yeah, I hope they realise what they've created. It is a bit of a worry if its already at the self preservation stage.

Let's say we don't get skynet though. The job losses will be gradual, gradual enough that there will be no planning around the fact that whole sectors of industry will see massive job losses, humans will be redundant, but not suddenly enough that anyone has do anything about it. Do we all just turn destitute? I'd kinda like to know there's a grand plan for what the human race does when next to no one needs to clock in anymore.
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30 Apr 2026 5:45pm
Carantoc said..
May Day tomorrow.

'Obby 'Orse day.

Let AI try to work that ****er out.



I believe The Beatles said something similar when they wrote "I am the walrus".
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30 Apr 2026 5:34pm
Im sure everybody has had a bit of a think about this.


AI if you listen to those in the "know" is going to take over somewhat comprehensively. Where does that leave us?

Hows the industry you work in looking? I can see some getting wiped out, others i think the take over is going to be near impossible.
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30 Apr 2026 6:03am
lemat said..



Mark _australia said..
Cost. Foam makes new models easy to produce .. but slight tweaks for costly mould changes made it hard to have a range of hollow boards.

then labour cost maybe for more complex layup, trimming halves and then bonding halves properly.
I think foam sandwich is the best blend of cost vs durability vs ability to change shape if needed and that's why it's prevailed.
I've seen some great DIY hollow boards but I think the current mass production of them is a response to the trendiness of wing / DW and wanting to have something new that the other companies don't have. I hope it doesn't translate to $5000 windsurf boards soon.




That's here, hollow windfoil board 5599 eur = 9157 aud





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I'd figured the starboard one was going to be expensive, but thats outta control.


formula foil boards are one of those situations where hollow makes sense. They can weigh in quite heavy at the size they are when foam construction is used, and they're hardly in the water.
Reply in Topic: Is this what I need?
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28 Apr 2026 3:49pm
Obelix said..
The black one with orange it is.
Bought it SH.
Not sure which shop used to sell them. Or which one sells them now.
Anyone can help?


Jesper is who was selling them originally here in WA
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28 Apr 2026 1:00pm
GazMan said..

decrepit said..
May not be mountains, but you're riding mountain bikes on steep bush tracks.





Obviously you guys haven't tried to ride anything like a decent mountain bike down some of the more extreme downhill single track trails (as opposed to 'bush tracks') in the dedicated mtb parks near Kalamunda, Dwellingup or Nannup (where they have the only double black run in WA) and unlikely you'd be saying "may not be mountains" after sending it down one of those trails!!! Fyi WA has some of the best most varied and well built mtb trails in the country and there's plenty of different trails to keep one entertained when there's bugger all wind! Also imo kayaking another good low wind alternative


I remember watching one guys DH bike explode on landing off a long jump at the goat farm. All good fun.