Here is a good account of the actions taken in the UK to avoid a ban on Hayling Island, they use a beach marshall system that works.

http://www.pauljobin.hostinguk.com/access/Hayling-Battle.htm

I'm sure NSWKBA would be willing to cover some of the costs for signage and marshall T shirts if it comes to that. We are also working on some beach fliers to give to newbies and visitors, ideas from locals would be welcome, maybe Botany specific ones would be good. I'll try to make the meeting but I'm sure Marcel or Caela will be there representing the NSWKBA committee

Have a look at the kite spot info on www.nswkba.com.au for Botany and let me know if it is correct (I only kite Botany in winter).

Also it is membership renewal time, which can now be done online.
www.nswkba.com.au/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=82

Cheers
Gav

Hi Pete

We would really appreciate and benefit from your attendance and you sharing your experience.
The only hassles we have had with the local sailing clubs was from a few riders who pushed right of way with skiff, or who fell off in front of skiffs under full sail during races.
We just need to communicate with the local sailing clubs find out their summer race roster and avoid crossing the race line for 20 mins while the skiffs are in the area.

I just sent out a group email to the sydney riders I had in my contact list (which is far from complete), if you want to be part of that list send me an email on sydney(at)kitepower.com.au replace (at) with @

Cya and

Goodwinds

steve

Cya

We will come next wednesday
Also people who post on seabreeze should sign in under their real NAME !!!!
Marine's mum

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Originally posted by Tonewolf

It IS inevitable that kiting ....WILL BE BANNED in Sydney.....It's just a matter of time! I read one of you say..."enjoy your last year" and I believe it.
The councils have banned bigger neiche sports that were way less dangerous than ours....hear that clock ticking.....tick tock....

Just move south when it is, not nOrth please people.

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Dont get too cocky tonewolf. I have it on good authority that goldy is under scruiteeny and once the baning game starts its only going to be those remote locations that survive. Yeh for west oz.

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Originally posted by Tonewolf

It IS inevitable that kiting ....WILL BE BANNED in Sydney.....It's just a matter of time! I read one of you say..."enjoy your last year" and I believe it.
The councils have banned bigger neiche sports that were way less dangerous than ours....hear that clock ticking.....tick tock....

Just move south when it is, not nOrth please people.

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I'll make a prediction....
Kiting WILL be banned in Sydney.
But not all beaches.
One or two (if you're lucky) will remain dedicated to kitesurfing.
These beaches will be called 'kitesurfing zones'.

Question:
Which two beaches in Sydney will become the kitesurfing zones ?

Ive seen the kiting mayhem at dolls point. its far too small for the number of kiters. its a big bay . why dont you all spread out some. oh i know the answer to that. the show off kiters need to kite together . yeh , thats the reason

The only folly here is you slavey.
You sound just like the definition of folly.....
"the state or quality of being foolish; lack of understanding or sense. "

Now, if you don't have something positive to contribute, and something logical to say, why bother to bore us with your folly?
Another definition of folly "a foolish action, practice, idea, etc.; absurdity, waveslave"

The beach is a reality, it is our access to the thing we crave - the water.
The beach is owned, we must not collectively, p1ss off the land owner, or they will restrict access to our water.

To do nothing would be a folly.

Carnage is happening at all kitesurfing locations, including yours. You are one of the problems, you don't wear a leash. If your runaway kite injures someone or damages their property a local ban could result. Don't bother explaing to us again why you don't wear a leash.

Growth is natural in all things, your parents fed you and now look what we have to contend with!
Sydney is one of the faster GROWING cities in Oz, growth in many, many things is inevitable here. Concern for access to our spots is growing, support from the authorities is growing - if we show them we are organised, don't live in anarchic denial slavey. Be positive or be quiet, please.

Meeting for Sydney kiters will be Wednessday the 11th October, at the St George 16foot Sailing Club in Sanoni Ave Sans Souci.
Start time 7.30pm

They have a well priced restaurant, and club priced drinks.
Estimated meeting duration 80 mins.

Will post an agenda soon, please submit any ideas for that to this thread.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

Hi Victor,

Not rolling lines away after you come in is one of my pet hates. [}:)]

If you come in for only 5 minutes, no problem, no one will mind you leaving you lines out. But any longer than this is a problem. It just clutters up the beach and makes everyone annoyed.

Seriously, it takes 1 minute to roll your lines and lay the bar on the canopy, then move the kite out of the way.

In Kailua Bay, Hawaii, the launch area was always to be kept clear, you had a few minutes to rig, then launch and clear the beach. When you came in, beach marshall or friends caught your kite while you rolled your lines, no one left their lines out. Once rolled, the kite was removed from the beach and placed in the park behind the beach out of the sun and wind. No Problem! Good for everyone kiters and public alike.

People, really! How hard is it to just roll your lines? Poor etiquette and just plain lazy behaviour from the few that don't give a sh1t.

Good winds,

We found at our local spot in Melville, the KISS principle applies.
(keep it simple stupid) A few simple rules that everyone can remember, are far easier than a million different rules and regs that no one cares to abide by.

One of the key things we put in place was a 50m launch/land zone. Ie Marker buoys were put at points along the beach 50m out. Subsequently this 50m zone is for launching/landing only, nobody is to ride in this zone. Of course the odd tourist or dickhead take no notice whatsoever, but on the whole it works.

Our minutes from the meeting are here. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4708

Its funny but that meeting was the catalyst for a whole heap of other fun stuff like beer drinking, trips up the coast etc etc etc

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And a couple of signs would be good like "Kite launch area only" if its decided to launch north or south of the groyne, wind dependant. Also some signs to advise the public or perhaps some flags on the beach to create an land/launch zone on the beach.

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Great idea, only problems you may encounter are who's paying for it, and planning/permission to stake the signs.

Pelican point locals, Jan on this forum i think had lots and lots to do with the Pelican Point Fiasco last year/year before, might be worth pinging him an email too. I think there are some minutes/meeting docs on the WAKSA section of this forum.

Good luck

Does the beach marshall get to wear a black t-shirt, boardies and cowboy hat ?
Cool.

Booties with spurs are gay.

No worries FreeFerty, I will post a report.

@slavey

Its not the just beachgoers that are going to get slameed by your unleashed kite, its the surfers, and windsurfers at your local spot.
Wrap one of them in your unleashed kite and then get back to us about how well they liked it?
Not!
Get a leash ot STFU.
Lead by example.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

The idea of a bit of organisation for beach users is good. There really are too many people trying to kite at some locations and a few basic rules applied to the busy spots may allow everyone to have more fun. The standard of kiting in Sydney is really suffering because no one gets enough free space to safely try new tricks. It is very rare to see more than 1 or 2 good kiters out on any given day on the south side of Sydney.

On another topic though, I am a firm believer of the fact that it is safer to lauch your own kite if you know how to do it well, then it is for a newby who doesn't know what they are doing to launch it for you.

Also,tuff talking about getting little groups to confront people about what they do, or don't do, is only going to lead to more trouble.

Regards,
Jeff.

PS - How about a 10 minute rule. That is if you live more than 10 minutes from any location then don't think your "I'm a local because this is where I got my first lesson" attitude is going to go down too well.

Waveslave has stated he is too skilled to wear a leash, its too dangerous for him to wear one, WTF!!

There is no push to form vigilante groups to aggressively confront people, that is not the way to promote harmony. There are many, many other ways to achieve compliance with a sensible set of guidelines to preserve access to our Sydney waters.
"Encouragement" is exactly that, simply powerful, passionate persuasion.

Please take it easy over the weekend everyone, the last thing we need is another incident with acouncil meeting coming up on Tuesday.

The club has nothing to do with Kitepower, that is a really lame attempt at a slur, by a really lame, irresponsible kiter, who contributes little on here except for lame, negative, corny, childish, organic, nonsense.
And he should STFU, so should anyone else not contributing to the subject topic.

Meeting for Sydney kiters will be Wednessday the 11th October, at the St George 16foot Sailing Club in Sanoni Ave Sans Souci.
Start time 7.30pm

They have a well priced restaurant, and club priced drinks.
Estimated meeting duration 80 mins.


Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve