The baggy boys may need to remember that the 'old blokes' have got experience here and a bit of foresight that the 'hot shots' may be yet to discover. Sure they may have a bit of a dodgy knee from the 'double axehandle reverse 720 with tripple cheese' they pulled 10 years ago but that's the point. They've been there many years ago, long before we end up doing the same and if common sense or whatever tells them to pull back fine. One things for certain there is no correct style - cruisers or parkies alike can do whatever they like for all I care as long as it doesn't effect anyone else. The youngsters are more likely to be insecure and need to seek external approval in order to prop up their egos and so place more value on busting the baddest moves for the benefit of the onshore viewers or their peers. The cruisers on the other hand may have been there done that & having a more spiritual experience on the water and see it as a form of meditation with the elements. So in the words of the great Dave Grainey 'you've gotta ask yourself who you're living for?'
This is not to say that anyone who does anything new is an insecure dumb@#$% as it's only natural to want to push yourself to learn something new but one who criticises someone or some other syle/preference just because they/it is different IS an intolerant narrow minded dumb*@$%
Now going from the lecture back to the subject. I dont think anyone's worried about people hurting themselves on a bit of PVC when intenionally attempting the latest 'doublecheese burger with extra gerkins' on it. What I gather from this is the possible ammo that someone with an agender against kiters may gather from it. Or not living there (I'm in Melbourne)is it reasonable to ask about the possibity of some other water user, such as a poler, running into it on the wrong tide?
People on this forum may fall back on 'no disrespect intended, we're just having a bit or fun' But at the end of the day some people here are getting hot under the collar and need to remember its not what you say but how you say it that matters.
You dont want to end up having a rule on 'how to scratch your arse' but you've got to be smart about it maybe someone close to the appropriate authorities can discretely sound them out on the subject before it's bought up officially.
[}:)]

"Dachopper
You tosser,I feel like hunting you down and killing you like the DOG you are. If you were to come over to the west and you talked to me as tough as you type on the forum, and i am hoping you do, i would rip youre head off. I am in my thirtys and take offence to any tosser that thinks he can bag people out who he dosent even know. By the way you talk i would say you must be 13 maybe 14 because us grown ups realise that our sport has nothing to do with age and moves that we are able to do. Our sport is all about the stoke that we feel at the end of a session. The same stoke shared by surfers and windsurfers and i hate to say it but even bodyboarders.
This is just a guess but i bet you are a boogie boarder because an accomplished surfer would not dribble the **** that you do about people he dosent even know.
PS If you are coming to WA email me we can catch up. , maybe you can prove to me that youre a man and not the child that you sound like.

ALLAN"

talk like the "grown up people" like psyudo who says were all "young dum and full of cum" , and that other dude who said " we oldies are the real men, we go out in winter" pfft you must be kidding right, and to clarify since you obviously cant read without your glasses, i said old people over 40, and yes you are under 40 , being 30 something... it goes 1..2...12..14....20..27....38..39....40 +
i could give you a leson if you like
and a kiting lesson too

and i don't hav n e thing against old kiters, just old opinionated, communist , pesemistic pricks, who really couldn't care about the slider, and kiting and only seek to show the negative side of a good thing.

been in bali for 2 weeks and come back and shiit hit the fan. dont write dale off u gut less farks. myself and a couple of others all built it together. psedo wot ever your name yes u are. you said i am going to sound like an **** and you do. put your name to the thread u gutless f##k. yes the slider is portable, yes we paid for timber , paint, screws to build it and didn't ask for anyone to chip in. it isn't even in the f##king water so shut ya yap . It is d##kheads like you that ruin it. not people that build sliders, if ya scared of it go round it you *****. We will probally leave it 4 now coz it is causing 2 much Shiit and take it out(even though it is on the beach) coz we don't want any restrictions 4 kiters or problems 4 waksa. By the way 2 all u anonymous users put your name 2 it coz it is a gutless thing 2 slag some one off anonymously. u know who i'm talking bout u ****.

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Originally posted by crashtestdummy
You dont want to end up having a rule on 'how to scratch your arse' but you've got to be smart about it maybe someone close to the appropriate authorities can discretely sound them out on the subject before it's bought up officially.
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Thank God - a reasoned response - 10/10 to Crashtestnotsuchadummy.
"discretely sound them out" may be a way to go IF ANYONE KNOWS SOMEONE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
The problem with asking these days is that with all the PC bulls...t & 'duty of care' crap everyones first response is to cover their own R's with a NO regardless of commonsense.
(now in my day when men were real men things were different - but we wont go there hey Laurie - though I did think 'dawanka's +or- 40 was a bit of a joke - Fme I cant even remember being 40 and even now cant wait to score my 1st kite loop ; but I reckon at my age I just might leave the 1 legged landings to 'dahotshot')
ANYWAY my 2 cents worth - if you ask it'll be NO and you will have to loose it till you can argue and win YES ... if you dont ask whoever takes objection is going to have to find a reason WHY NOT.
SO ... keep your trap shut and keep sliding - its just another water toy.
WHATEVER I'm not personally phased either way ... Im just heading off for 2 weeks in Shark Bay
So (whatever your age) you can all just droowl
(gawd hope my fragile old bones can handle it fer f's sake)

? 4 strings ?

Actually if you read the original post Ryland, Pseudonymous only use's reference to "DALE" to bring attension to the "crew" that placed it there, I also read that he made an apology stating that; i quote "I'm not singling you out Dale, Its just you're the only one i recognised from the water....."unquote.

after reading all of the relivant posts on this thread i made a couple of call's to people in the know. From what i found out CALM has every right to ban kiting from the area and most likely will when some one discovers it.

I put this forward to the "baggy pants brigade" as they have now become known as. Have you considered for one moment if someone was to ride into it and hurt them selves; or if it is dismantled and lying under the water when not in use and a windsurfer rides over it and ****s his board or worse hurts him/her self; or a swimmer/diver some how gets in a bingle with it; or one of choicy's students get in a bingle with it; or if it is dismantled and hidden in the bush's/dune's and someones child is playing in the dunes and gets hurt by it, cause if its my daughter that gets hurt i wont call calm i'l be calling around your house with the cops in tow....have you ever stopped to think of the ramifacations of your actions seeing as everyone knows who you all are now for posting your names, thank you very much.....

one other thing i found out, woodmans point conservation land management group is finalizing a proposal for the area. From what i was told this means that WAKSA or local group/commity can approach them to have their agenda sactioned....now, what they wont tell you is that this appears favorable if the said WAKSA/local commity offers to AID in the care for the area and clean up the area, as CALM does not have the numbers of staff to do such things, it would meet favorably with them.....

I understand the "baggy pants brigades" frustration as all they see/read is older guys telling them they cant do this or that at a time when they've only just come to grips with independance and think their worldly as everyone has been telling them the world is their oyster and only to find out in reality that its ran by old farts as they put it.....

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been in bali for 2 weeks and come back and shiit hit the fan. dont write dale off u gut less farks. myself and a couple of others all built it together. psedo wot ever your name yes u are. you said i am going to sound like an **** and you do. put your name to the thread u gutless f##k. yes the slider is portable, yes we paid for timber , paint, screws to build it and didn't ask for anyone to chip in. it isn't even in the f##king water so shut ya yap . It is d##kheads like you that ruin it. not people that build sliders, if ya scared of it go round it you *****. We will probally leave it 4 now coz it is causing 2 much Shiit and take it out(even though it is on the beach) coz we don't want any restrictions 4 kiters or problems 4 waksa. By the way 2 all u anonymous users put your name 2 it coz it is a gutless thing 2 slag some one off anonymously. u know who i'm talking bout u ****.

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DALE - nice effort in building your slider mate but its a sad fact of life that there's a lot of old c#nts out there with no life that would use the "fear of littigation" excuse or "safety of other beach users" excuse to get you, your slider or your sport banned

PSUEDO - Good effort to bring this topic to the forum matey but you done it the wrong way. I kinda think you've been misunderstood though.
Hope you guys can sort it out over a beer someday.

ELMO - Nice to have a level headed and inteligent reply amongst all that flaming! Dale take note?

DACHOPPER - DICKHEAD why dont you stop cumming in your baggy pants and try to get yourself a root for f#ck's sake ive never come across a guy that needs one as bad as you!
P.S. I live in your neck of the woods Numbnuts and i'd love to have a beer with you when you turn 18 maybe teach you a thing or two???

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Actually if you read the original post Ryland, Pseudonymous only use's reference to "DALE" to bring attension to the "crew" that placed it there, I also read that he made an apology stating that; i quote "I'm not singling you out Dale, Its just you're the only one i recognised from the water....."unquote.

after reading all of the relivant posts on this thread i made a couple of call's to people in the know. From what i found out CALM has every right to ban kiting from the area and most likely will when some one discovers it.

I put this forward to the "baggy pants brigade" as they have now become known as. Have you considered for one moment if someone was to ride into it and hurt them selves; or if it is dismantled and lying under the water when not in use and a windsurfer rides over it and ****s his board or worse hurts him/her self; or a swimmer/diver some how gets in a bingle with it; or one of choicy's students get in a bingle with it; or if it is dismantled and hidden in the bush's/dune's and someones child is playing in the dunes and gets hurt by it, cause if its my daughter that gets hurt i wont call calm i'l be calling around your house with the cops in tow....have you ever stopped to think of the ramifacations of your actions seeing as everyone knows who you all are now for posting your names, thank you very much.....

one other thing i found out, woodmans point conservation land management group is finalizing a proposal for the area. From what i was told this means that WAKSA or local group/commity can approach them to have their agenda sactioned....now, what they wont tell you is that this appears favorable if the said WAKSA/local commity offers to AID in the care for the area and clean up the area, as CALM does not have the numbers of staff to do such things, it would meet favorably with them.....

I understand the "baggy pants brigades" frustration as all they see/read is older guys telling them they cant do this or that at a time when they've only just come to grips with independance and think their worldly as everyone has been telling them the world is their oyster and only to find out in reality that its ran by old farts as they put it.....

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Originally posted by Ryland

been in bali for 2 weeks and come back and shiit hit the fan. dont write dale off u gut less farks. myself and a couple of others all built it together. psedo wot ever your name yes u are. you said i am going to sound like an **** and you do. put your name to the thread u gutless f##k. yes the slider is portable, yes we paid for timber , paint, screws to build it and didn't ask for anyone to chip in. it isn't even in the f##king water so shut ya yap . It is d##kheads like you that ruin it. not people that build sliders, if ya scared of it go round it you *****. We will probally leave it 4 now coz it is causing 2 much Shiit and take it out(even though it is on the beach) coz we don't want any restrictions 4 kiters or problems 4 waksa. By the way 2 all u anonymous users put your name 2 it coz it is a gutless thing 2 slag some one off anonymously. u know who i'm talking bout u ****.

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of course they've thought of the ramifications, that's why it removable, and not hidden underwater, and if some1's outa control and going to run into it, maybe they sould kite downwind of it?????but you are talking pretty much blackmail right... clean up woodies so you can put your own slider in the water........ If it is removable, and they are there when it is being used, y is it illegal again?
A. it's no littering
B. they can tell little girls not to play on it, so they dont get hurt
c. You can't "not see it" and run into it without first crashing through a wall of kiters anyway.
d its not permanent, so there are as many public littegation aspects as there are if someone walks into your parked car at woodies and breaks their legs...

And you should by me a beer wen i turn 18
and get me some roots aswell

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Also pissed off by eastern states crew starting to post crap they know nothing about, they messed up enough other forums out there.

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here here

looks like easties have been causing the **** in this thread too

most of the local guys have been saying hey be careful why not talk to local governing bodies so we can actually HAVE the slider and not get BANNED because of it

(noone has actually said they didnt WANT the slider!)

kites: Caution Spitfire 2004 16m+12m board: Caution Redline 132

sorry for taking an interest in this poor dudes slider...
It is his slider right, so he or they(whoever made it) has the right to do whatever he wants and let whoever he or they want on it..... Alot of what has been said on this thread is a load of winter **** wind no kiting crap
most of it by me !

but the fact is it is their slider, they own it, they made it, they decide who uses it, and noone else has the right to take ownership of it except them, and trying to enforce your own views on how it should be used is a little heavy handed, when you have nothing to do with it now or in the first place

if it gets banned it gets banned... its only a slider, and the slider won't cause kiting to be banned, dickheads kiting near swimmers, and letting their kites land on main roads and practising irresponsible kiting is the only real thing that will get it banned.
has any1 used it yet?? and is it any good???/

ATT: CHOICEY...

I'm wondering if you would be interested becoming involved with a few local Woodies crew to come up with a statagy to get Woodies allocated a kite friendly zone for future years to come also incorporating your school.

great stuff choicey, will give you a call during the week...

come on all you woodies locals, lets get behind our fav spot and ensure we keep it and play a hand in what we can do there....this also means a legal slider, may be even a slider park ?... but first we nees to get together....

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Here's some interesting memorabilia: I was talking to the guy who runs the hobbie club there a few years ago, and he told me of a time when jetski's were the latest craze, and the jetskiers wanted the spot so bad, that they all started purchasing membership to the hobbie club with the hope of outvoting the hobbie sailors, so they could turn the club into a jetski home! (it has got excellent bbq facilities )

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already tried that a couple of years ago, the club members are very protective of there club there even thou they are short of members.

I think choicey has a membership at the club so we have a mole, the other great thing about the place is that you can camp on the grass over the weekend out of the wind for the fam-damily.

mmmmmmm slider is that not what the rocks are for, can we rig one up so that we can slide over the spit...... The super duck is the best slider at woodies just need choicey to get the oars out for a up ramp

yeah not many around today. think they have been banned for wearing baggy pants and building sliders......

I would hate for kiting to become the next thing to ban after jetskiis, and in 10 years, some people on the "latest thing" forum talk about those baggy pants wearing kiters, and where did they all go?

Have some gut-sliders evolved and worked out how to use their feet?!!! Amazing.

Shark biscuits aside....What is a 'slider'? Is it a new kite?

Wind's up.....what work?