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Originally posted by waveslave

Carbine,

What are the other teething problems ?
(You can skip the hole).

Regards
'slave

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These are from things I have read, seen or heard about. Im not an authorative expert (one of the few things im not on) on crossbows as I dont actually own one.


Ok.

Splitting struts.
Broken bar end leading to release of rear line.
Bridles wrapping around tips of kite.
Kite flying inverted and turned inside out.
Kite inverting in flight suddenly.

Inverting happens when you are in high winds flying the kite fully depowered on the strap, power up on the bar to jump, and then while in the air you quickly let out the bar (to 100% depower).

It can also happen when you loop the kite fully depowered.

You learn not to do these things.............duh.

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Originally posted by carbine
Splitting struts.
Broken bar end leading to release of rear line.
Bridles wrapping around tips of kite.
Kite flying inverted and turned inside out.
Kite inverting in flight suddenly.

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Bridles wrapping around tips of kite. REAL SAFE !
Kite flying inverted and turned inside out. REAL SAFE !
Kite inverting in flight suddenly. REAL SAFE !
Oh and you forgot there REALY dangerous to self launch !

slave,
I think phil was elduding to your overwhelming 'expertise' in kiting technology and marketing that appears in 95% of your posts. You talk like a prophet!
Oh knowledgeable one, what is the next progression in kiting technology? Please enlighten me? I'm sure you have an idea. I'm sure you have an idea, will voice it, then will tell everyone how they are wrong and how kite companies are getting it wrong.

Get over it mate. Get over yourself maybe?

As for the new kites...
Go kiting progression!!

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Originally posted by waveslave

Spacemonkey!

The HOLE is a real mystery to me, mate.

Maybe the HOLE is a fashion thing ?

Like designer patches and designer holes in fashion jeans.

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Relly had it, over our way, where the sun does not get wet every night, we call it a cagina.
We just say "yeah thats the cagina" and then go kiting.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

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Originally posted by kiterdan

slave,
I think phil was elduding to your overwhelming 'expertise' in kiting technology and marketing that appears in 95% of your posts. You talk like a prophet!
Oh knowledgeable one, what is the next progression in kiting technology? Please enlighten me? I'm sure you have an idea. I'm sure you have an idea, will voice it, then will tell everyone how they are wrong and how kite companies are getting it wrong.

Get over it mate. Get over yourself maybe?

As for the new kites...
Go kiting progression!!

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That was my kn point.

Dan, suggest you go back and correct typo [eluding] or you will leave yourself open for a response

flew a bow for the first time the other day. light winds.

quite honestly i dont know what the fuss is all about. they just dont feel as direct.

not for me. different strokes i guess.

and someone said 'its only inverted on me twice' !?!
that would be twice to many for me.

They only invert if you dont pump them up hard enough.Pump it up - problem solved!

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Originally posted by HungLong

... it has taken hundreds of man/womans hours in research & development, testing and riding to get it right. Just so when it hits the customers hot little hands it's simple !

Thats what we're striving for at bestkiteboarding...

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What? Actually putting in more than a couple of hours of R&D before releasing a kite to the customer?

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Originally posted by HungLong

We learnt alot from HF !, we've moved on

regards browneee

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Sounds like you really haven't learnt alot?

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Originally posted by HungLong
...We are comming out with a bow kite... I will get one to demo...

regards browneee

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Already you are sprouting crap about your own bow! Demo, yeah great, so it can blow up in my face - real safe!

But then again, I would love to walk into your shop, have a look around, you offer me a coffee and we could have a chat about... the alternative you were offering me instead of my Crossbow... The same kite which has allowed me simplify my quiver; lengthing the time I spend on the water; safely handle gusty conditions; elevate my confidence and most importantly, maximised my fun factor.

I think it may be sour grapes on your behalf - missing the boat.

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Will any one ever get over the hell fish,

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Kite that will make all others obselete, the kite of the future, the kite with massive windrange, huge depower etc etc etc
The kite that in reality, cant fly right, spontaneously combusts, looks crap and is generally a dog.

No i doubt anyone will get over the hell fish.

why would you bother with best its like buying a brand new car, it breaking down beyond repair, then going and buying another car from the same dealer made of the same stuff that broke down.

Yeah i'm really excited about the new line of carbon fibre crap the best boys are developing???

hung long reckons best learnt a lot from the hellfish, fk me one would sure as hell hope so, its not rocket science.... but then here he is hyping the next batch of cack....bring it on HL bring it on.
Maybe it would be like a sheet to put under the doona....

giving up smokes is like PMT

IMHO BEST are great at copying a design and getting it to the market cheap. But - they arent the innovators.

Like the Monkey I ride a 3 kite Nemesis quiver and I couldn't be happier - they are a seriously fun kite, well built and have stood the test of a couple of seasons use. They helped bring the price of new kites down for all of us - but perhaps more importantly deflated the used kite price market so that now almost anyone can get on the water second hand with kite, board and gear for less then $1K.

With the 'bows I will be doing exactly what I did with the 'fish. Sit back - observe - wait for the riders to iron out the bugs and improve on the user unfriendly bits and then maybe buy the generation 2 model.

I also dont think with the "C" style kites that there is that much more improvement in them. 5th line was the last real step forward & even then I dont fly with it all the time - just when conditions dictate it would be useful.

But then again - I'm happy driving a '95 Diesel Discovery when other kiters want the latest WRX. Viva la difference !

One day - hopefully never - when my kites are holding me back, I may consider being at the leading edge and riding the newest and greatest, but till then I'm happy to ride BEST "C" kites - the Toyota Corolla of the kiting world

Poor Relative,

Have any pulleys worn square yet ?
How about lines chaffing because of the square pulley ?

I saw a bow with this problem at my local just recently.

Regards
'slave

Couldnt tell you about the general world population of bows 'slave but mine hasn't worn, isnt square and is free from sand.

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Think if you didnt smoke for a year how much money you would save for new kites

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**** it cigs on.....who gives a **** chimp boy, i've gotta stay clam calm even.

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Originally posted by user

Whats with these losers that bash bows ??

I am in a heavily populated area ,with a lot of kites,and a lot of Crossbows.
I have yet to see or hear of a problem with them.
Ask someone(an actual person that owns a bow )what they think,and they will tell you how much they like them !

The basher losers just keep quoting the same old inverting excuse,without actually knowing exactly where they heard it,only that it was on a Forum.

No,there isnt as many dud kites as there were Hellfish.
All the Hellfish were complete duds. There may be a dud bow somewhere in the World from the thousands actually out ripping it up,but from where I'm looking,its all good.

Funny how the bashers always end up with something like:
" Anyway I am happy with my Yarga."

Guess that really shows where they are coming from !

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As I've already said - I own a bow and it does invert and catch itself in the bridle. I'm not getting rid of my bow but I far prefer my rhinos.

ahhhhh something different shoot it down in its prime, it could kill the resale value on are old kites [}:)]
i'm sorry i don't know how to feel at the moment