Harness placement on the bar is so important. Highly recommend a single loop style option, as you can slide the attachment point to perfectly set up the trim. Just a 5MM change in position can have a huge change in performance. You can set it up so it's biased for more power or for less and trim from there with minor wrist movements, or just set it up to where it is perfectly balanced (if the wind is really good) and let the PW fly itself. Really fun to play with on the water while working upwind.

With narrow mid lengths there is not much downside to going with more volume. I am all for pushing limits of volume and only wing negative vol boards, but for parawing I think a board that is equal vol in kg would give you more usable wind range if you go negative you will only be able to parawing when fully powered. If your board floats you would stand a chance of getting going in a gust. If you go negative your basically signing up for a two board quiver because your going to want a bigger board on light wind days.

djdojo said..
Hi all, it seems mid-length style boards work well so long as there's at least 18 knots or so? I'm only interested in 18-30 knot range. What volume are you using relative to weight? I've gotten on foil (Armstrong HA1125, converted 4m Peak) on a mates 110 litre board but now looking to purchase my own.

At 84kg, considering a Smik Breeze, either a 70l 5'10" or 6'0" 85l. I don't mind a steep initial learning curve. I do want to be able to get going on a parawing size that will be comfortable for long upwind missions. Plan to be riding DWP755 and 685. Advanced kite foiler. Never winged. Any board thoughts appreciated.

I'll let you know mid February as I have a 4.2M Flow D Wing on order.

I have a SMIK Stokr Breeze 6' @ 85litres for my 85kg which I use for winging

I also have a Stokr DW 7'6" @ 115 litres which I use for light wind winging (sub 10knots)

The Breeze is a knee start and needs wind to get moving so I can stand, whereas the DW board I can just stand stationary and wait for wind. My thoughts are to use the DW board first to get a feel for the kite, I have never kited or windsurfed, but have been winging for 2 years. If the DW board is successful then I'll try the Breeze when the wind has some decent punch and see how I go.
The Stokrs don't have any volume in the nose, its all in the middle and the tail, so my pump up onto foil technique is to sink the tail and then let it rise and repeat to get the board off the water which is the opposite to my previous nose buoyant boards where sinking and popping the nose was the technique that worked for me. Im sure it will be "interesting" to rely on board pumping only as the Parawings don't appear to respond to being "pumped"..

Youngbreezy said..
With quite a few more parawing options coming out I would have thought we'd see some nifty tools for managing stowing, line tangles redeploying etc. Surely there would be a range of different ways this could be improved by adding some kind of lines/clasp/noose that kills the wing and keeps all the lines organised.
I haven't actually started parawing yet so I'm wondering if maybe that's not really necessary? Maybe after a while the lines just aren't too hard to deal with. What do you guys who are already parawinging think? Would it be better to have some nifty tools for the stow or do you just get good techniques after a while?

You will notice that in the majority of the videos you see guys are holding the wing in hand or tucked under the arm... A good douse>stow system will be a huge upgrade.

I think this is THE board for parawing.

Nice! I just want to say that I started with a brm 4.0 and then got a flow 3.0. I thought the flow was going to be way easier with the whole A-line flying/dumping power thing. It is nice but I keep coming back to the brm as my go to. The lightness in hand is noticeably lighter with brm. It stays in flight in lulls and for butt schlogging back when wind dies. The flow needs better wind to do that. When the flow gets wet, it becomes a bit of a dog. The brm seems to shed water more quickly. The other thing about the brm is that it gets better with each session I put on it. It takes flight time to grasp the fine sensitivity of it. The flow feels easier to the novice, but as I progress, it has started to feel like more of a beginner wing and the brm more of a high performance wing to me. Once I figured out how to ride hooked in and deal with gusts, things clicked with the brm. It is so light in my one hand while flying. Parawinging is so pure and simplified compared to winging. I have a much better field of view and am flying one handed most of the time which really opens my body up, and frees up one whole arm which equals harder carves and a much less confined body position. I don't quite have the stow/re deploy dialed yet but I don't care. My upwind angles are better than wingers. Jibing and tacking are so much more elegant than with a wing. As a recovering kiter, I am stoked to have a kite in my hand again, but without all the bs that comes with kiting. For anyone who has plateau'd on the wing and is paracurious- give the parawing a few sessions and it gets sooo much better each time. I hardly drop it in the water much anymore. Remember when you learned to wing and the first year was so exciting every session? That joy is back again with this new tool. I think winging will see a decline in the next few years as people realize that they don't need all that crap in their face and hands and realize that we just need a simple power source to get on foil. BTW- I have yet to do a downwinder with a shuttle on my parawing. I just sail it upwind and back. Thanks BRM Greg for creating this amazing tool!

broVan said..
Nice! I just want to say that I started with a brm 4.0 and then got a flow 3.0. I thought the flow was going to be way easier with the whole A-line flying/dumping power thing. It is nice but I keep coming back to the brm as my go to. The lightness in hand is noticeably lighter with brm. It stays in flight in lulls and for butt schlogging back when wind dies. The flow needs better wind to do that. When the flow gets wet, it becomes a bit of a dog. The brm seems to shed water more quickly. The other thing about the brm is that it gets better with each session I put on it. It takes flight time to grasp the fine sensitivity of it. The flow feels easier to the novice, but as I progress, it has started to feel like more of a beginner wing and the brm more of a high performance wing to me. Once I figured out how to ride hooked in and deal with gusts, things clicked with the brm. It is so light in my one hand while flying. Parawinging is so pure and simplified compared to winging. I have a much better field of view and am flying one handed most of the time which really opens my body up, and frees up one whole arm which equals harder carves and a much less confined body position. I don't quite have the stow/re deploy dialed yet but I don't care. My upwind angles are better than wingers. Jibing and tacking are so much more elegant than with a wing. As a recovering kiter, I am stoked to have a kite in my hand again, but without all the bs that comes with kiting. For anyone who has plateau'd on the wing and is paracurious- give the parawing a few sessions and it gets sooo much better each time. I hardly drop it in the water much anymore. Remember when you learned to wing and the first year was so exciting every session? That joy is back again with this new tool. I think winging will see a decline in the next few years as people realize that they don't need all that crap in their face and hands and realize that we just need a simple power source to get on foil. BTW- I have yet to do a downwinder with a shuttle on my parawing. I just sail it upwind and back. Thanks BRM Greg for creating this amazing tool!

Nice feedback. Only have experience on the BRM, with a 2.9 and 1.8, and all good. I came so close to getting the Flow, had a 4.2 on order, but bailed on it, and from the reports I've been hearing once the dust settles and the next shiny toy hype fades, I'm quite glad I did. I am wanting a bigger size, but even in spite of the dozens of offerings now, none of them appears to be a more compelling alternative. They all seem to have some shortcoming or other, heavy fabric, lines too long, bulky bar, complex pulleys to get jammed or tangled etc. The BRM still nails if for pure minimalism and simplicity. I have no doubt that whatever refinements Greg introduces in the new V2, he won't compromise on that.

Had a quick rip on the Ka'a 2.9m
First impressions, this thing is amazing! I will be buying more sizes. It is super maneuverable and smooth. Stows and redeploys lighting fast! Baby bar is crazy small, feels really good. Little adjustment period to be expected. It really feels like a BIG upgrade! Can't wait for the next session to get more feels.

Frankieboy said..
do you think low end has improve if you rode BRM before in similar size?

It currently feels the same but I feel like I need more time to understand how to best fly the Ka'a to get the low end performance. The baby bar feels much different and takes some getting used to.

New videos of the v2 and tech tips on the BRM parawing resources page

boardridingmaui.com/pages/parawing-resources

pitbulldoug said..

foilthegreats said..
Even better Parasurf wing, Yes please! Cancelled my ozone order and ordered the 2.9m Ka'a can't wait!
Also saved 300USD with the new rewards program. Make sure you check your account when ordering. You can get some point by subscribing to the newsletter etc. If you're new to BRM you can save 5% on your order and give me BRM points for my next purchase: 82e3d9-a0.myshopify.com?bon_loyalty_ref=CwlS%2Fpu0j6TheqeLutqOtdptTAPzeInntlOocG%2F%2BS%2F7wErZ1oR1WeWBz44MaZlgjEFKTmpcrO7qeL9x9pDhHLA%2BzB21ECnP08jtiKxDAOxY2nQbcdIeGE3LTwoxdhOf5pBjSLubDdwokGOynmJfx%2B5qFFQlWfXsSK9DZG5tfadE%3D&from_shop_domain=true&referrer_name=4d61726c6f6e9657

How did you save $300 in rewards on purchase of PW can you let me know as I'd like to order a cpl too and being a longtime BRM customer not sure if I qualify or not just says 5%?you can message me if you like,keep up the reviews your about the only one posting on new V2 thanks

Only purchases from 2024 onward apply to rewards.

X-Files investigate the New BRMs

podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-x-foils/id1736402904?i=1000704797170

foilthegreats said..

DaHammerBDA said..

foilthegreats said..
Had a quick rip on the Ka'a 2.9m
First impressions, this thing is amazing! I will be buying more sizes. It is super maneuverable and smooth. Stows and redeploys lighting fast! Baby bar is crazy small, feels really good. Little adjustment period to be expected. It really feels like a BIG upgrade! Can't wait for the next session to get more feels.


What made you choose the Ka over the Kanaha? How would you compare the upwind abilities and general flight characteristics of the Ka to the original Maliko? I am stuck on the fence and cant decide which one to go with, I have had great sucess with the original Maliko but keen to try the next generation, any feedback you have is gratefully appreciated.

I was looking for ultimate surf Parawing. In my spot I don't upwind more than 3km. It is an impressive improvement everywhere. The maneuverability and stability is amazing. Short lines feel so good. Stow and redeploy is lightning fast. Baby bar take some getting used to but feels really good. Overall super happy and don't think you can go wrong with either model. Greg explains models well here:

-KPts_31zCb

Hi , I need some help , I'm on the fence to order probably 2 size, and as you I'm riding on Lake whit a Kt dragonfly 88L , looking for Kanaha model, 3.2M and 4.7M or 4M and 5.5M or any other suggestions

foilthegreats said..

airic said..

foilthegreats said..

DaHammerBDA said..

foilthegreats said..
Had a quick rip on the Ka'a 2.9m
First impressions, this thing is amazing! I will be buying more sizes. It is super maneuverable and smooth. Stows and redeploys lighting fast! Baby bar is crazy small, feels really good. Little adjustment period to be expected. It really feels like a BIG upgrade! Can't wait for the next session to get more feels.


What made you choose the Ka over the Kanaha? How would you compare the upwind abilities and general flight characteristics of the Ka to the original Maliko? I am stuck on the fence and cant decide which one to go with, I have had great sucess with the original Maliko but keen to try the next generation, any feedback you have is gratefully appreciated.

I was looking for ultimate surf Parawing. In my spot I don't upwind more than 3km. It is an impressive improvement everywhere. The maneuverability and stability is amazing. Short lines feel so good. Stow and redeploy is lightning fast. Baby bar take some getting used to but feels really good. Overall super happy and don't think you can go wrong with either model. Greg explains models well here:

-KPts_31zCb

Hi , I need some help , I'm on the fence to order probably 2 size, and as you I'm riding on Lake whit a Kt dragonfly 88L , looking for Kanaha model, 3.2M and 4.7M or 4M and 5.5M or any other suggestions

You're not giving much info. I would size how you size what wing you'd use for your conditions.

More info, actually wing 3.5 ,4.5 and 6M, weight 175lbs or 80kg and a large quiver of foil winging on Lake whit big fluctuations of wind

foilthegreats said..

airic said..

foilthegreats said..

airic said..

foilthegreats said..

DaHammerBDA said..

foilthegreats said..
Had a quick rip on the Ka'a 2.9m
First impressions, this thing is amazing! I will be buying more sizes. It is super maneuverable and smooth. Stows and redeploys lighting fast! Baby bar is crazy small, feels really good. Little adjustment period to be expected. It really feels like a BIG upgrade! Can't wait for the next session to get more feels.


What made you choose the Ka over the Kanaha? How would you compare the upwind abilities and general flight characteristics of the Ka to the original Maliko? I am stuck on the fence and cant decide which one to go with, I have had great sucess with the original Maliko but keen to try the next generation, any feedback you have is gratefully appreciated.

I was looking for ultimate surf Parawing. In my spot I don't upwind more than 3km. It is an impressive improvement everywhere. The maneuverability and stability is amazing. Short lines feel so good. Stow and redeploy is lightning fast. Baby bar take some getting used to but feels really good. Overall super happy and don't think you can go wrong with either model. Greg explains models well here:

-KPts_31zCb

Hi , I need some help , I'm on the fence to order probably 2 size, and as you I'm riding on Lake whit a Kt dragonfly 88L , looking for Kanaha model, 3.2M and 4.7M or 4M and 5.5M or any other suggestions

You're not giving much info. I would size how you size what wing you'd use for your conditions.

More info, actually wing 3.5 ,4.5 and 6M, weight 175lbs or 80kg and a large quiver of foil winging on Lake whit big fluctuations of wind

I personally would go with the smaller parawings. 3.2m & 4.7m

Thank