Anyone who knows me, knows that if I have something to say to someone, I say it. Done that with both these guys. Marty listened last time we spoke and has begun to wear a leash. I was hoping to have another chance to speak to him about his riding, thats why I did not name him here. Marty has always been a reasonable person, and I hope that he can have some influence on his riding buddy.

If someone else continues to ride without a leash, ride in Rose Bay against NSW Maritime rules, and ride recklessly close to other people, including people being taught to kitesurf at Dolls Point, then they are just proving to everyone how incredibly dumb and selfish they are.
I think they will attract what they deserve, hopefully it will be a minor lesson, and they will change their ways before something serious happens.
Riding Rose bay in westerlies is a Darwin Award activity. So is doing duncan donuts real close to the beach. How many broken boards and injuries will it take to wake up?

I don't wish either of these people any harm, I just want them to snap out of the dumb/selfish coma they are in and see the bigger picture, soon!

I don't use aliases, i'm just plain too dumb for it.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Just found this joint add from our two friends DUNCAN AND MARTY that think they own the beach. It has phone numbers and personal details if any one is interested in what they are selling.

Maybe if they sell all their gear, we won't have to worry about these beach bullies any more.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Members/Classifieds/Item.aspx?id=11115850-1bb6-411b-bb86-defa8bf4e5d3

I always hear these guys mentioned as Marty and Duncan or Duncan and Marty. They kite together, they offend together, they advertise together. Not that its any of my business and it's "not like there's any thing wrong with that" but are these two boyz......... ?

Don't sort it out on the kn beach, don't sort it out by posting on this forum, now that you know its Duncan why don't you just have a beer with him - I'd love to

110% depower thats awesome, if you drop your board you could use your 110% depower to push you back upwind!

Who is waveslave.... I know hes a mandurah local..
Old fella....Does he wear a)pink boardshorts over his wettie
b)life jacket
c)Gath helmet
safety leash on his board?

Yeah Steve...... according to Marty C, it was Sophie Dilizzio's fault also.... should'nt of been on that straight bit of road where the sun can get in people's eyes. Also, MC thinks she should have been in a brighter pram. Lucky it wasnt Marty wasnt driving, cause it would just keep happening again and again everywhere he goes.

How many close calls do you have to have with how many people at how many beaches before you consider yourself in some way accountable Marty? Read the thereads... you are a serial offender.... or are they all in the wrong spot also? Perhaps it was all Dave and Steve's fault those times and places also.

Get a dictionary... look up "common denominatore" try and draw a rational conclusion. Tell your boyfriend Duncan about it. If the penny does'nt drop, you can both blame the world together.

Please Marty, kite safer and less selfishly... you are not the only one on the beach.

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Yeah Steve...... according to Marty C, it was Sophie Dilizzio's fault also....

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Hmm Bridle, looks like you have been here too long - your accent is slipping!

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[i]Originally posted by Kitepower Australia
Riding Rose bay in westerlies is a Darwin Award activity. So is doing duncan donuts real close to the beach.

I don't use aliases, i'm just plain too dumb for it.

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Can anyone describe in detail to me how you do 'duncan donuts' ?
I need a new gig.
Fanging down-the-line is ok,
but a good showpony trick is a handy thing to impress the glamours.

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[i]Originally posted by Marty Coffey
Just a suggestion that it might make more sense to teach kite dragging a bit further down the beach instead of right behind the groin where the only smooth water is.

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I guess when you weigh it all up,
the source of the problem is the patch of smooth water.
The slick.
Aquatic real estate.

So who really has ownership ?
The kite-dragging teacher and his zoo maybe ?
Is it a McSlick ?
Or do the showponies have equal rights ?

Hmmm, tough questions ??

It's spelt "denominator" McCorn

You know Dan Quayle by any chance?

he spells potato with the same "e"

personally, I think newbs need a less crowded beach.

trouble is the licensed tell force them into that danger.

Kind of like the Mujahideen feel empowered by a higher authority

Beware of abandoned kite bags.

ottis

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Get a dictionary... look up "common denominatore" try and draw a rational conclusion.

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Can anyone describe in detail to me how you do 'duncan donuts' ?

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Good to see I'm not the only one who finds the idea of duncan teabagging quite amusing...

Has Marty been dunkin Duncan's donut ? Are they that close ? They both seem to be over compensating for something...

Hey People,

I guess I should post as I was the instructor conducting the lesson when the incident occurred.

The incedent went as follows:

My student was doing a cross downwind drag back and forth from shore. He had begun the drag about 30m south of the rockwall. I avoid starting students too close to the rockwall as the beach is very narrow at this point and any accidental steering mishap can end with the kite on the road or worse.

My student had completed his first run out and back and was now about 60-70m South of the rockwall. I instructed him via helmet radio that I would prefer he not come so close to shore when changing directions. At this point he was able to stand in chest deep water and move the kite from the right to the left hand side of the window through 12 O'Clock. When the kite arrived on the left hand side of the window the student lay back in the water and resumed his body drag. I could see at this point that a Kiteboarder had taken off in a jump no more than 30m cross upwind. The jump was no more than 3 metres in height but owing to a shoddy takeoff the kiteboarder travelled quite a distance downwind.

I alerted my student just before takeoff and I asked him to stand and watch upwind.

What happened next was a miracle to me and the other bemused onlookers. The jumping kiteboarder landed no further than 10m from my student and then proceeded to pass over his lines which my student had cleverly dunked under the water at this point.

Now.... I have known Marty for many years now and he and I share common ground on many levels. However... What happened on this day just isn't acceptable. To his credit he did approach me after the lesson to spout the mindless excuses he has relayed on this thread. I would say that maybe Marty has poor depth perception or spatial awareness but anyone who has seen him juggle can attest to the unlikelyhood of that. There is no need for excuses in this case. A simple "I did the wrong thing and I will do my best to ensure it doesn't happen again" is the appropriate response. It's hard to admit you are wrong but I assure you it is a lot harder to deal with the repercussions of injuring a fellow kiteboarder.

Solution to the problem:

Keep your eyes peeled for students and other kiters. If they are in your way then go around them. I can make them no more visible than they already are and I do not intend to change teaching locations just so that the flatwater is available at all times to those who go out with too much power and can't load their edge properly in the chop. The water is there to share and if you want to see some new blood in this sport because you are tired of watching joe bloggs crash his triple backloops for the last 3 years, then make some room for the noobs!

I often ride into the flatwater and find people obstructing my landing zone. I simply turn around, ride away and then come back when I have room. I have never felt annoyed by these kiters obstructing me nor have I ever come close to landing on them. Many will attest that some of my landings are less than controlled and for that reason I make sure that I have lots of room.

So, ride hard, but ride safe.

Dave.