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The Gong Allvator SUP/Surf foil

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Created by colas > 9 months ago, 5 Sep 2018
sweats
54 posts
10 Aug 2019 5:54PM
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Now that looks interesting Colas. Any info on release date?

colas
3320 posts
10 Aug 2019 8:45PM
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No idea.

From what I gather the production process is ready (the tricky part was to achieve small geometric tolerances to guarantee compatibility, always a manufacturing challenge for carbon parts), but the prototypes are still in the testing phase. So I guess it depends if the tests show that the design is ready for prod or if some tweaks are still to be made.

I have seen the prototypes, and the manufacturing is really superb.

Also, a video of Malo Guenole (Patrice son), a 14 years lightweight with a 7m wing in 9 knots wind, showing that a 7m wing can be handled even by small guys

www.facebook.com/patrice.guenole/videos/10220158340531076/

Filow
79 posts
10 Aug 2019 9:03PM
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Hey colas Nice to know ! I am
wondering if the Gong team
will make a new nice packaging for the new carbon T Mast. I love my GOFoil but the I have nothing to store it well or travel.

if Gong make a nice case that would be great !

exiled
238 posts
11 Aug 2019 7:29AM
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So is that carbon mast going to be thicker and stiffer? It looks like it could be. My X-mas list is going to be way too long this year.

colas
3320 posts
11 Aug 2019 3:42PM
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Filow, I don't know. Good idea, though.

Exiled, no specifics yet but I guess so.

colas
3320 posts
11 Aug 2019 5:15PM
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Apparently the "Pro" wings are in stock now and be orderable on the site tomorrow (Monday)

sozz
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11 Aug 2019 5:43PM
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Apparently the "Pro" wings are in stock now and be orderable on the site tomorrow (Monday)



Any footage of them being used yet colas?

colas
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12 Aug 2019 4:00PM
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Any footage of them being used yet colas?



There are some on Gong Instagram accounts, where they tend to post raw footage of various sessions, they only upload polished videos on youtube.
www.instagram.com/gong.wing/
www.instagram.com/gong.galaxy/
www.instagram.com/gongfoil/
www.instagram.com/patrice_guenole/
www.instagram.com/beryloss/

Note that they also have instagram accounts for Gong SUP, Kite, Surf... gear.

colas
3320 posts
14 Aug 2019 2:44AM
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The Pro wings are now available:

www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/gong-foil-allvator-surf-sup-front-wing-pro/

The sizes: (Some percentages seem bogus)

To understand the range, we have kept the sizes M / L / XL / XXL that will guide you in your choice making. Our shaper Patrice Gu?nol? has exacerbated the characteristics of each size to radicalize them. The small Wings are smaller and the XXL is giant.

The M is 69cm in Pro against 70cm in classic, and its volume is 1.2L against 2,0L on the classic! Almost half (74%), which means optimum penetration and crazy speed. The area is also down sharply, but only 34%. So, you have much finer profiles.

The L is 77cm in Pro against 80cm in classic, and its volume is 1.6L against 3.1L on the classic! Almost half (95%), which means optimum penetration and crazy speed. The area is also down sharply, but only 42%. So, you have much finer profiles.

The XL is 92cm in Pro against 90cm in classic, and its volume is 2.5L against 3.6L on the classic! Almost half (43%), which means optimum penetration and crazy speed. The area is also down sharply, but only 12%. So, you have much finer profiles.

The XXL is 120cm in Pro against 100cm in classic, and its volume is 4.2L against 4.3L on the classic! Only 2% difference. On the other hand, what radically differs from the XXL classic is its surface which increases by 12%. So you have a thicker profile and more lift which means you will fly much earlier.

Filow
79 posts
14 Aug 2019 3:01AM
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What about the weight ? And the surface ?

sozz
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14 Aug 2019 3:49AM
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What about the weight ? And the surface ?





the medium is down from 1258 on the old wing to 1100 on the new medium 'pro',
old medium weight was 2kg, now 1.2kg.

Filow
79 posts
14 Aug 2019 4:43AM
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Do you have the Data for all the new wings ?

Filow
79 posts
14 Aug 2019 4:43AM
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Do you have the Data for all the new wings ?

sozz
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14 Aug 2019 4:51AM
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Filow said..
Do you have the Data for all the new wings ?



No I just sifted through their shop site, it's all on there under the foils tab.

www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/gong-foil-allvator-surf-sup-front-wing-pro/

colas
3320 posts
14 Aug 2019 4:11PM
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All the data is in their web page.

The wings alone float, although the complete foil will not.
"Techno: 50% Carbon 3K Wing, molded at high pressure on a foam core. It is not the lightest but it is almost indestructible."

A customer received his XXL pro this morning and posted a pic side by side with his regular Allvator XXL wing:

Filow
79 posts
14 Aug 2019 7:03PM
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Should be interesting to get a pic of the two wings from front

colas
3320 posts
14 Aug 2019 8:21PM
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Here it is:



With the review of its user, a expert in flat water foil pumping: www.instagram.com/hell_june/

(translated from French by me, with the help of Google Translate which is becoming surprisingly good):

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As promised a fresh first feedback of the XXL Pro 120cm wing

No video or photos, I devoted myself 100% to feel and analyze my feeling on the water and not to disperse to try to make images!

So first thing, the wing is aptly named PRO !!! It is not to be put in all hands and it will discourage the beginners in foil and pumping ... certainly it carries your weight more and it goes fast and stays in flight super easily, but it requires a much greater precision, positioning errors do not do not forgive!

Tested with the 65cm mast and Surf 45 stab then Kite 45 stab, the Surf tames it a bit but also slows a bit, the Kite stab allows for an incredible Vmax, once well positioned in flight the effort needed to keeping up is low and you save a lot in cardio and leg power required while traveling distances that are really significant, I do about 500m per run. We begin to arrive at a mode where we can in the space of a session of 40 min to make beautiful rides totallings everal km ...

In dockstart nothing to say except the necessary precision, it takes off quickly and you just have to be careful not to force the pump too much because we get ejected quite easily.

In beachstart a revelation, the extra lift gives this little extra that overcomes the added difficulty of this exercise with the classic XXL wing, this extra lift also means we need less depth to start as we can stay very high without effort !

In a nutshell I love it !!!!

sozz
11 posts
14 Aug 2019 8:21PM
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I just ordered the large pro and smaller stab, will post pics when I get it.

Filow
79 posts
14 Aug 2019 11:59PM
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I ordered one with a 80 cm mast and a normal surf stab. I ll make a feedback.

exiled
238 posts
15 Aug 2019 1:22AM
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I'm probably holding out until the carbon mast is available, but holy smokes is that new XXL is large. Gotta be bigger in terms of surface area than anything else on the market.

colas
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Thursday , 15 Aug 2019 3:01PM
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I'm probably holding out until the carbon mast is available


You do not need to, as they will be compatible :-)
But yes, I guess a carbon mast will be probably stiffer and worth it on these wide wings.

As for the rest of the market, I wont be so sure, I guess we will see a lot of wild experimentation from all brands.

exiled
238 posts
Friday , 16 Aug 2019 1:32AM
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Its a bit cheaper shipping to Hawaii if I can get it all in one box though. Honestly, I might be an atypical user, but I ride the old XXL 3-4 times a week on really small waves and I generally am not looking for more speed or lift, but a stiffer mast would help me feel in control on the turns. I'll probably get the new XXL at some point. I'm hoping they'll package the mast, wing and smaller surf tail into a complete foil because at this point I'm looking ordering so many spare parts I might as well just get everything and have a full back up foil.

colas
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Friday , 16 Aug 2019 3:49PM
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Its a bit cheaper shipping to Hawaii if I can get it all in one box though.


Just mail them. They can cater to specific needs.

Paddlezz
56 posts
1 hour ago , 23 Aug 2019 12:11AM
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Has someone made already a feedback the new Gong Frontwing Pro XL-XXL?

sweats
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1 hour ago , 23 Aug 2019 12:23AM
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Has someone made already a feedback the new Gong Frontwing Pro XL-XXL?



Yes there is a review of the XL and XXL wings in the foil section of the Gong Forum.
Received my Gong XXL Pro wing today. Very impressed. Looking forward to giving it a go. Think it could be great with my Duotone 5M wing in lower winds.



sozz
11 posts
1 hour ago , 23 Aug 2019 12:31AM
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i got my large pro wing yesterday, looks great, a big step up from the classic design on first impression .

exiled
238 posts
7 minutes ago , 23 Aug 2019 1:27AM
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Cool, I want to hear about how much less stable and harder to get up the new wings are. The old Gong XXL is easy for me, but I struggle with other wings.



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