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Originally posted by Greenroom

Sorry Hardie we were not where you think we were.

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I was checking it out from Decrepit's carpark, so couldn't really tell who was out, I just imagined one was you and one was miller???

Where were you In code of course

ok, well after having an arvo at currumbin alley in a 25kn s/e, I think I know what I would rather do, clean shoulder high waves, big ramps to jump, sweet waves to ride, beats going backwards and forwards in a straight line for me!

Just for the record just in case he doesn't post here, which is really good for us mere mortals, our top gun in Perth got a gps display peak of 40.9 knots or 75.8 km/h, puts my speeds into real perspective, and I would have had flatter water


He was saying there was up to one metre chop, though his peak speeds were done on a much flatter stretch of water.

On our run, the chop was about 20 to 30cm, and at 35 knots it was impossible to stop the board from getting airborne. So that's where the skill and testicles the size of basketball are necessary. In the morning session when it was really flat in lighter wind and lower tide, I managed 63.4 km/h, when I went back for the 3nd arvo session, the chop was about 30cm, and the wind 5 knots stronger and the best I could manage was 55.9 km/h. Just didn't have the cojognes to push it, was so dissappointed. On the 3rd session with inspiration, help and encoragment from Elmo, I bit the bullet, and just had to get used to the pace, psych myself up and go for it. And the speeds just kept getting faster. 59.9; 61.9; 63.9; 65.1;65.4. On the last 2 runs, I got my body really compact, lowered my centre of gravity, steeled myself mentally and went for it.

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Originally posted by firiebob

I just read your post in the other thread Hardie (been working), it's going to be hard to keep the other thread up the top, with the season starting to go belly up for the lower half of Oz, or can you sail on & off all year ? The season will pick up in my part of the world soon, and I will post speeds, just don't expect too much

I was over in West Aus about 10 year ago, and sailed a bit at Melville Waters. I loved going way upwind, and then going right off the wind on the outer side of the sand bar. With the right tide it was awesome, just had to widen eyes for the rare windsurfer crossing the bar. At the time it surprised me no one else did this, except for some new mates. Used to also down wind to Pelli Point, hell ride in chop when windy.

Bla Bla, memories

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Firie, yeh the wind gets lighter for a few months here to, till the winter storms begin in June. However, as I said this can be an oppurtunity for us all to learn from each other. Even in light winds, there's a lot to learn. Like in 8-12 knots of wind, is a real challenge to get planing let alone post fast speeds but with formula gear and light wind slaom gear the challenge is to go double the wind speed, say 24 knots, which feels unreal.


Vando posted a quick time in QLD, 35 knots in 20-25 in choppy conditions is bloody quick, I felt like I was on the edge of madness at those speeds over here. Impressive, your chop sounded worse, than mine and elmo's, so that's bloody impressive!!!!!!

Wanna know what a fast sail looks like, check Martin Van der Meurs, rig when he did 49.4 knots, bottom full, top flat to inverted, almost like an s shape:

http://www.naishsails.com/news/news_030107.php

Maybe we need to start a new thread "How to Sail fast", that looks at the categories of Technique, Set-up, Boards, Sails, Fins, Masts, Booms, and the Pscychology of going fast. However, how about someone else post it.

After watching speed runs at Cervantes yesterday, and some "spectacular dismounts" in water conditions that didn't add to the day, have to give those boys credit.
Runs of just over 62k's ( around 34 knot mark)being managed with a sweeping curved ramp with chop & holes that swallowed a number of challengers before they hit some flat water to gain more speed was the order of the day. Being able to stand front on watching as they came through each run at about 15 meters distance, showed just how most were right on the edge each time.
For those along with me who watched it was great and thanks.
For those who competed, well done, you put on a spectacular couple of hours of great viewing fun
Mineral

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Originally posted by sick_em_rex

fingers crossed for the southerly to hit Sydney tomorrow so I can get out and post some times. Hardie that picture looks incredible, now if I only had a spare $5000 I could have a rig like that too

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Yes me too

The toyz I'd buy if I could spare the doe

Posted some photos from the speed weekend at cervantes. Enjoy,


www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=3734
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Thankyou to Laurie for Giving the "GPS Speed sessions" a Sticky Topic!!!!!

Now let's use it!!!!!

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For Consistency, I think we need to leave to posting only GPS Display though, don't know what windwarrior think of this, we need to compare apples with apples.

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Just remember display can only be based on total honesty as there is no evidence to substantiate it.

GPS-Speedsurfing.com also has a ranking for Display-max, but at any time the timekeeper guys can ask you to send through the track data - from this they are able to get a pretty good idea if the the value entered by the sailor is accurate.

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Originally posted by md74

ok, well after having an arvo at currumbin alley in a 25kn s/e, I think I know what I would rather do, clean shoulder high waves, big ramps to jump, sweet waves to ride, beats going backwards and forwards in a straight line for me!

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u so hardcore

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Originally posted by Haircut

btw, what has happened to the tabou classic and narrowneck nationals? haven't heard a word since a month back?

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Both still going ahead afaik, check out that other site.

Hi pointman,
I use a Gramin Foretrex 101 which takes a regular AAA battery. The 201 has a built in rechargeable lithium battery. I have heard good and bad things about both but I am more than happy with my purchase. One thing I stress though is that whatever you buy make sure you get an additional aquapac to use it in whilst sailing. Not only does it have the benefit of floating should it come off, it also as the name suggests keeps your gps out of the salt water. Whilst I'm sure tha manufacturers would love to claim their units are waterproof I have seen heaps going in for warranty repairs because they have leaked. Better to be safe rather than sorry.
Price wise the Foretrexs go for $200 to $300 depending on where you get them from. Best off also getting the cable to be able to download your info to a puter and then you can download for free the programs needed to understand it all and the map software etc.
Hope that helps :)

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Originally posted by md74

ok, well after having an arvo at currumbin alley in a 25kn s/e, I think I know what I would rather do, clean shoulder high waves, big ramps to jump, sweet waves to ride, beats going backwards and forwards in a straight line for me!

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Haircut, I dont think its about claiming to be hardcore, its about what I enjoy the most, I love the feeling of riding a wave, and jumping off big ramps, dont really enjoy smashing masts though! I also enjoy my flat water blasting days, but the waves win for me, Im converted!