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Retina
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9 Sep 2026 1:41am
BWalnut said..

Retina said..
There is still no video (I haven't found any) showing the drainage of the orbit. Show us a video when pw is submerged and redeployed!



Honestly it's a non issue for the 2.7m and 3.5m IMO. Super fast drainage and relaunch that felt closer to a single skin than something like the Paia double skin.

Sound good but still need video proof 😁
foilstate
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foilstate
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10 Sep 2026 1:41am
Just got my hands on a second hand 3.5. Only had a low end session. Fabric feels the same grammage as hybrid 777, ultra light. The end of the cell on the trailing edge is just closed on one point in the middle of the cell. So the water drains right through, really no trouble there. Compared to an hybrid the low end is less grunty although the trim helps. When they say 16kts for the low end they are being very generous/optimistic. Feels like a 3m hybrid or something, so more like 18-20kts, and probably mid to high range to have great vmg. Wing flies very far in the wind window and tends to collapse at the tips quite a bit. Feels like a "high aspect" pw, it asks a lot and probably gives a lot in return. Will report back when the wind shows up.
BWalnut
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10 Sep 2026 5:29am
foilstate said..
Just got my hands on a second hand 3.5. Only had a low end session. Fabric feels the same grammage as hybrid 777, ultra light. The end of the cell on the trailing edge is just closed on one point in the middle of the cell. So the water drains right through, really no trouble there. Compared to an hybrid the low end is less grunty although the trim helps. When they say 16kts for the low end they are being very generous/optimistic. Feels like a 3m hybrid or something, so more like 18-20kts, and probably mid to high range to have great vmg. Wing flies very far in the wind window and tends to collapse at the tips quite a bit. Feels like a "high aspect" pw, it asks a lot and probably gives a lot in return. Will report back when the wind shows up.


RIP to your upwind PR's 😂

Bummed to hear the tips are collapsing for you right away too. Hopefully you can unlock it better than I could.
MeonAsh
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11 Sep 2026 6:08am
I've been testing a 4.5m and I have to say unless you are going way upwind and then downwinding back with this packed I can't see another reason for owning one. Trying to freeride or lap with it over shorter distances is painful, it is not a playful or easy to use parawing in that regard. I've tried lapping with it over shorter distances and it's not suited to that in any way at all. Definitely don't get one to freeride.
AnyBoard
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11 Sep 2026 12:18pm
MeonAsh said..
I've been testing a 4.5m and I have to say unless you are going way upwind and then downwinding back with this packed I can't see another reason for owning one. Trying to freeride or lap with it over shorter distances is painful, it is not a playful or easy to use parawing in that regard. I've tried lapping with it over shorter distances and it's not suited to that in any way at all. Definitely don't get one to freeride.


Isn't that the exact use case?
Long up winder and pack down. Comfort in gusty variable winds.
What does playful mean?
Many are keen for feedback on the performance of this wing and i don't think any of us are looking for playful or freeride.

hilly
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11 Sep 2026 11:00am
AnyBoard said..

MeonAsh said..
I've been testing a 4.5m and I have to say unless you are going way upwind and then downwinding back with this packed I can't see another reason for owning one. Trying to freeride or lap with it over shorter distances is painful, it is not a playful or easy to use parawing in that regard. I've tried lapping with it over shorter distances and it's not suited to that in any way at all. Definitely don't get one to freeride.



Isn't that the exact use case?
Long up winder and pack down. Comfort in gusty variable winds.
What does playful mean?
Many are keen for feedback on the performance of this wing and i don't think any of us are looking for playful or freeride.


I was and it is not for me. Too much material for quick pack downs and redeploy in waves. The funky wing collapse is weird as well.


BWalnut
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11 Sep 2026 11:02am
For what it's worth the 2.7m was actually decently fun to play with. The 3.5m, not so much, it wasn't bad, but it was clear that it wasn't your carefree parawing. Have heard plenty of 4.5m complaints at this point tho.
MeonAsh
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11 Sep 2026 9:10pm
AnyBoard said..

MeonAsh said..
I've been testing a 4.5m and I have to say unless you are going way upwind and then downwinding back with this packed I can't see another reason for owning one. Trying to freeride or lap with it over shorter distances is painful, it is not a playful or easy to use parawing in that regard. I've tried lapping with it over shorter distances and it's not suited to that in any way at all. Definitely don't get one to freeride.



Isn't that the exact use case?
Long up winder and pack down. Comfort in gusty variable winds.
What does playful mean?
Many are keen for feedback on the performance of this wing and i don't think any of us are looking for playful or freeride.



My understanding is it's a parawing - so it should do parawing stuff, which includes everything. If you want a review that just looks at whether it goes in a straight line upwind really fast then I can certainly do that and give it a 5 star rating but I think people want a bit more than that, especially when other parawings can also go upwind really fast and do all the other stuff as well.
AnyBoard
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12 Sep 2026 8:22am
MeonAsh said..


AnyBoard said..



MeonAsh said..
I've been testing a 4.5m and I have to say unless you are going way upwind and then downwinding back with this packed I can't see another reason for owning one. Trying to freeride or lap with it over shorter distances is painful, it is not a playful or easy to use parawing in that regard. I've tried lapping with it over shorter distances and it's not suited to that in any way at all. Definitely don't get one to freeride.





Isn't that the exact use case?
Long up winder and pack down. Comfort in gusty variable winds.
What does playful mean?
Many are keen for feedback on the performance of this wing and i don't think any of us are looking for playful or freeride.





My understanding is it's a parawing - so it should do parawing stuff, which includes everything. If you want a review that just looks at whether it goes in a straight line upwind really fast then I can certainly do that and give it a 5 star rating but I think people want a bit more than that, especially when other parawings can also go upwind really fast and do all the other stuff as well.



Just sensing a little 777 bias.!
The orbit, piaia and 777 hybrid have a similar use case and should be reviewed with those priorities.

Sort of like when I pointed out the ordinary upwind of the 777 ltx and you said it’s not really about going hard upwind for this parawing. it’s about stashing and playfulness. Hahaha


No one expects a double skin to be a free riding machine for those that need to collapse and redeploy every few minutes. It’s good to understand how it redeploys and packs away but it only needs to do it a few times a session. All that is left is how it does its job of getting you upwind with control and comfort. When the wind is 15 to 30 knots and the bumps are angry those all rounders are pretty uncomfortable and almost dangerous at times.

if it was about just all round things then 777 wouldn’t even get a gig. So many better single skin do it all solutions.



BWalnut
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12 Sep 2026 7:48am
Anyboard, just wondering: Have you tried these parawings yourself?
scheggia
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12 Sep 2026 3:13pm
BWalnut said..
Anyboard, just wondering: Have you tried these parawings yourself?


I have a feeling he didn't...
AnyBoard
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12 Sep 2026 8:06pm
scheggia said..


BWalnut said..
Anyboard, just wondering: Have you tried these parawings yourself?




I have a feeling he didn't...


That's why we are here mate. If I had the money to just buy all the wings I wouldn't need to come here. We all come here to share and hopefully cut through the rubbish of marketing and influencing with integrity.

As just one example of learning here was watching Bryan post his angles over 12 months and then see the LTX angles that just aren't up to scratch with what he achieved on a v1 pocket rocket. I don't have to ride the LTX to know that if i am looking for a generational improvement in upwind performance then the LTX might not be where I need to go. I understand that you love the LTX for your use case but you convinced me not to get one for my use case and i must thank you for saving me money. You have also have convinced me not to speculate on a PPC orbit. I appreciate your reviews Bryan and I feel they are pretty fair and particularly if you can read between the lines for your use case.

scheggia I mostly remain quiet but when i see some hypocrisy or disingenuousness then i will call it out. Again I am reading between the lines as that's what we have to do in order not to waste time and money. The funny thing is I don't need to ride those wings to be critical of the approach to the judgements you are making. Just lots of experience will do. Its not the first time I have felt compelled to call you out.





MeonAsh
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12 Sep 2026 6:34pm
I've never used or reviewed a 777, would be hard for me to have a bias. I believe 777 are going to send me a hybrid at some point, that will be my first experience with the brand.
BWalnut
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13 Sep 2026 1:51am
@Anyboard thanks for clarifying.

If I could make a friendly request to soften your use of terms like bias, hypocrisy, disingenuousness, etc. It might impact people more aggressively than you realize. I don't know about others, but for myself, it triggers a defensive response and shuts down forum conversation when we want it to keep going. Questions preferred instead of accusations essentially. I don't know Scheggia or MeonAsh, but they both seem like genuine people who are creating content as a service to the community.

I'm a rider advocate, not a product ambassador.

If your question is "looking for generational improvement in upwind performance" and you aren't focused on other traits then the PPC Orbit is, indeed, the parawing for you. However, what I believe Ash is alluding to, as I have mentioned, there are some legitimate tradeoffs with the Orbit. If we ignore them and publish glowing reviews about nothing but the upwind performance that would make us product ambassadors, and no longer rider advocates. IMO we already have more than enough of that in the foil industry.
AnyBoard
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13 Sep 2026 7:12am
BWalnut said..
@Anyboard thanks for clarifying.

If I could make a friendly request to soften your use of terms like bias, hypocrisy, disingenuousness, etc. It might impact people more aggressively than you realize. I don't know about others, but for myself, it triggers a defensive response and shuts down forum conversation when we want it to keep going. Questions preferred instead of accusations essentially. I don't know Scheggia or MeonAsh, but they both seem like genuine people who are creating content as a service to the community.

I'm a rider advocate, not a product ambassador.

If your question is "looking for generational improvement in upwind performance" and you aren't focused on other traits then the PPC Orbit is, indeed, the parawing for you. However, what I believe Ash is alluding to, as I have mentioned, there are some legitimate tradeoffs with the Orbit. If we ignore them and publish glowing reviews about nothing but the upwind performance that would make us product ambassadors, and no longer rider advocates. IMO we already have more than enough of that in the foil industry.



For you Bryan I will do my best. It might help for you to also understand that in a country like Australia we mostly call it as we see it and after all you are on a forum that was once all Australians.

You will see some very robust exchanges on here at times and historically all we had to deal with was cutting through all our own brand loyalties. Since the era of the free gear influencers and those aspiring to be, the truth can get lost.


BWalnut
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13 Sep 2026 5:27am
Cheers and thanks for the cultural context. I’ll keep that in mind and look forward to future debates.


For future brainstorming and not to hijack the orbit discussion but I do wonder when the 777 Supercharger will be released. It’s single skin but fast upwind. That could be a real contender IMO and sounds like exactly what you are looking for.
scheggia
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13 Sep 2026 2:50pm
AnyBoard said..

scheggia said..



BWalnut said..
Anyboard, just wondering: Have you tried these parawings yourself?





I have a feeling he didn't...



That's why we are here mate. If I had the money to just buy all the wings I wouldn't need to come here. We all come here to share and hopefully cut through the rubbish of marketing and influencing with integrity.

As just one example of learning here was watching Bryan post his angles over 12 months and then see the LTX angles that just aren't up to scratch with what he achieved on a v1 pocket rocket. I don't have to ride the LTX to know that if i am looking for a generational improvement in upwind performance then the LTX might not be where I need to go. I understand that you love the LTX for your use case but you convinced me not to get one for my use case and i must thank you for saving me money. You have also have convinced me not to speculate on a PPC orbit. I appreciate your reviews Bryan and I feel they are pretty fair and particularly if you can read between the lines for your use case.

scheggia I mostly remain quiet but when i see some hypocrisy or disingenuousness then i will call it out. Again I am reading between the lines as that's what we have to do in order not to waste time and money. The funny thing is I don't need to ride those wings to be critical of the approach to the judgements you are making. Just lots of experience will do. Its not the first time I have felt compelled to call you out.







Mate, what really pisses me off is that I genuinely think that if you have a decent parawing level, and your only focus isn't wave riding, you'll enjoy the hybrids.
For me, as someone who religiously pays for all my gear, they've been a before and after moment.
Yet you keep calling us out on everything without questioning yourself even once. Maybe you're right with your "reading between the lines", but maybe you're not. Try questioning your own experience sometimes and keeping an open mind, it's fun, it makes you grow and you might actually find something better.
I've told you several times already who I am and where I'm coming from you can believe it or not. I wouldn't spend my (very precious) time and money riding gear I don't like, and I definitely wouldn't waste my time trying to convince people of things I don't believe in.
AnyBoard
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13 Sep 2026 9:52pm
Hahaha. Too funny

I am a life long surfer and get in the ocean almost everyday. I started foiling in 2015 and have enjoyed the very start of every foiling discipline since, including winging, SUP DW, prone since 2017 and have done over 200 parawing sessions since the V1 PR came out in April last year. All of them chasing bumps. I would say that makes me pretty open minded and experienced enough to know what I am seeing and hearing. I also have some great contacts.

Not sure why you think I have ruled out a 777 hybrid for our gusty frontal wind with a range from 15 to 30 knots.









scheggia
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14 Sep 2026 12:33am
AnyBoard said..
Hahaha. Too funny

I am a life long surfer and get in the ocean almost everyday. I started foiling in 2015 and have enjoyed the very start of every foiling discipline since, including winging, SUP DW, prone since 2017 and have done over 200 parawing sessions since the V1 PR came out in April last year. All of them chasing bumps. I would say that makes me pretty open minded and experienced enough to know what I am seeing and hearing. I also have some great contacts.

Not sure why you think I have ruled out a 777 hybrid for our gusty frontal wind with a range from 15 to 30 knots.











I think we’re going way off topic here, and maybe there’s also a bit of a language barrier from my side.
I’m not questioning your experience. I have no idea who you are, and you have no idea who I am. I still think that, if you’re an experienced parawinger, you’d enjoy the Hybrid more than your PR V1.
I’d still love to try the Orbit and the Afterburner, as those are the two parawings making big claims about VMG.
I’m not going to try to convince you that I’m not biased, and honestly, at this point I don’t care that much anymore.
saltyheaven
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17 Sep 2026 8:04am

Riding the 4.5 Orbit, quite underpowered. I've had a dozen sessions on the Orbits now. They ride differently, they require a different touch. It takes a bit of time, for me at least, to figure it out. Mine are keepers though that is for sure.

This is 11 minutes downwind run, and 15 minutes back upwind. I can do 1:1 with a windwing and am pretty certain that I'll match that with the Orbits soon enough. Yes, the packdown is cumbersome compared to my Quests, but the upwind is so completely worth it, to me. How I might feel compared to a Frigate V2 or an Afterburner I just don't know at this stage.








BWalnut
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17 Sep 2026 12:17pm
Dang, 4 minute reaches? That must be awesome. 1 minute is the longest reach I do most days in the Gorge.
AnyBoard
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17 Sep 2026 3:00pm
saltyheaven said..

Riding the 4.5 Orbit, quite underpowered. I've had a dozen sessions on the Orbits now. They ride differently, they require a different touch. It takes a bit of time, for me at least, to figure it out. Mine are keepers though that is for sure.

This is 11 minutes downwind run, and 15 minutes back upwind. I can do 1:1 with a windwing and am pretty certain that I'll match that with the Orbits soon enough. Yes, the packdown is cumbersome compared to my Quests, but the upwind is so completely worth it, to me. How I might feel compared to a Frigate V2 or an Afterburner I just don't know at this stage.









Excellent info so thanks.


Can you give us an idea of what wind you experience as underpowered? Some real experience on ranges would be even better. 😀



saltyheaven
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17 Sep 2026 6:20pm
AnyBoard said..









Excellent info so thanks.


Can you give us an idea of what wind you experience as underpowered? Some real experience on ranges would be even better. 😀








I think the published ranges are pretty accurate. The track above was taken from a session where there were squalls coming through with reasonable regularity. I had the 4.5 and the 5.9 with me and was swapping between them. The wind ranged from a low 12-14 knots, like during the segment I've extracted in the track posted, up to a solid 20 gusting 25 in the squalls. The 4.5 didn't once feel like too much wing, and I could get it up at any stage if I waited for a gust and bump combo. The 5.9 never felt too small and only felt too big during the strongest squalls, I imagine a better rider would have just pushed through with the 5.9 the whole session.
The upwind stretch posted here I had the PAL engaged an inch or so and was milking both board and upwind angle to offset the low wind strength.

For context I'm 79kg, 56 yo, lifetime watersports surfer and windsurfer, relatively new to foiling but took to it naturally. I'm in SE Tasmania so 5/4 wetsuit and boots, cold air and water, these wind strengths have the sense of a lot of push for a given number.

For me to reach the low end of what PPC claim takes an 8' downwind board and a large foil. (I was riding the Code 1075R this day) Note that I also freely admit that I'm not the most skilled at pumping up a smaller board and foil so I think their claim on the low end is reasonable. Maybe a little low for the 3.5, I haven't enough sessions on it yet to know, especially in that kind of breeze (15 knots) , as the 4.5 or 5.9 are clearly a better choice. I'd be saving the 3.5 for days that don't drop below 20 knots I reckon, or maybe even more, I've no idea where that 3.5 tops out, I'm guessing it will be more about sea state than wind strength.

The PPC claimed top end I would say holds true for me for the gusts on a given day. That is: the 5.9 is hitting it's top end for me in gusts of 22-23 knots or so, so a steady wind of something less than that, maybe 18knots, depending on how gusty it is though. I've had the 4.5 out in winds reading 20 steady, with gusts of 30 knots (nearby official wind station). Comfortable. Flat water that day though so I didn't have to manage the usual bumps that we'd expect with that strength of wind.

The depower is different to what I've had before - Upwind I lean into it with an assertive strong stance, commit to the harness and edge the board over, the parawing flies forward and speed goes up dramatically. Powered up upwind can be pretty challenging, just negotiating the bumps head on at speed. Heading downwind the depower seems to work best for me to float the parawing high. As long as I don't overtake it it just sits above me, well behaved.

The packdown, for me so far, is quite a bit less certain, though I am managing to collapse and re-deploy, just with a lower success rate . Note that I've come from the Quest which is hailed as one of the easiest and most well behaved wings, especially in packdown. I do think that it is just a matter of time before I get a more refined method or technique with the Orbit, though I doubt it will ever match the Quest for simplicity. Fair trade though for me! I'll keep a Quest for when I want that, or perhaps upgrade it to a Frigate V2.

I hope this helps! I'll update with further session data if and when I have something worthwhile.

Cheers!
BLINKY2481
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19 Sep 2026 6:14am
foilstate said..
Just got my hands on a second hand 3.5. Only had a low end session. Fabric feels the same grammage as hybrid 777, ultra light. The end of the cell on the trailing edge is just closed on one point in the middle of the cell. So the water drains right through, really no trouble there. Compared to an hybrid the low end is less grunty although the trim helps. When they say 16kts for the low end they are being very generous/optimistic. Feels like a 3m hybrid or something, so more like 18-20kts, and probably mid to high range to have great vmg. Wing flies very far in the wind window and tends to collapse at the tips quite a bit. Feels like a "high aspect" pw, it asks a lot and probably gives a lot in return. Will report back when the wind shows up.


The wing tips collapse because there has to be pressure on the back lines all the time,listen to the recent Xfoils podcast with Sam,Walt and Dillon have great insight for flying them
Piros
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21 Sep 2026 1:42pm
Spoke to Sam Loader (PPC owner) at the AWSI last week in Hood River , just a fluke I bumped into him. Told him I'm looking at wanting to get an Orbit , he informed that there is a single skin version in the mix right now and it's amazing , so I came home empty handed . The Ozone Pocket Rocket V2 won the innovation award at the 2026 AWSI which is pretty huge , there was so much incredible new gear there. I'll give it another 6 weeks or so waiting for my wind season to kick in properly before I pull the Para trigger again as I sold both my F-One Quest before heading over expecting to bring home the latest and greatest. The Para scene at the Gorge was absolutely mental with skill levels off the charts. The big stand out was all the young women just destroying it and the upwind reach angles of some riders was incredible almost looking like they were going dead upwind. 👀 The new Duotone will drop in Aus in December again supposed to be next level.
hilly
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21 Sep 2026 12:54pm
Piros said..
Spoke to Sam Loader (PPC owner) at the AWSI last week in Hood River , just a fluke I bumped into him. Told him I'm looking at wanting to get an Orbit , he informed that there is a single skin version in the mix right now and it's amazing , so I came home empty handed . The Ozone Pocket Rocket V2 won the innovation award at the 2026 AWSI which is pretty huge , there was so much incredible new gear there. I'll give it another 6 weeks or so waiting for my wind season to kick in properly before I pull the Para trigger again as I sold both my F-One Quest before heading over expecting to bring home the latest and greatest. The Para scene at the Gorge was absolutely mental with skill levels off the charts. The big stand out was all the young women just destroying it and the upwind reach angles of some riders was incredible almost looking like they were going dead upwind. 👀 The new Duotone will drop in Aus in December again supposed to be next level.


Just a qualifier it was not the PRV2 that won the award it was the light x version.
Piros
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21 Sep 2026 5:02pm
??? This is Ozones post :-

ozonekites.com/kite/news/innovation-of-the-year-award-awsi-2026/



INNOVATION OF THE YEAR AWARD AWSI 2026


September 11, 2026 / Kite Race Snow WingWe are incredibly proud to announce that the Pocket Rocket V2 parawing has won the Innovation of the Year award at this week’s AWSI 2026 ceremony.Thank you to all our customers and partners who have joined us on this journey so far. Your enjoyment and huge smiles on the water are all the motivation we need.
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21 Sep 2026 3:11pm
michel said..

foilstate said..
Just got my hands on a second hand 3.5. Only had a low end session. Fabric feels the same grammage as hybrid 777, ultra light. The end of the cell on the trailing edge is just closed on one point in the middle of the cell. So the water drains right through, really no trouble there. Compared to an hybrid the low end is less grunty although the trim helps. When they say 16kts for the low end they are being very generous/optimistic. Feels like a 3m hybrid or something, so more like 18-20kts, and probably mid to high range to have great vmg. Wing flies very far in the wind window and tends to collapse at the tips quite a bit. Feels like a "high aspect" pw, it asks a lot and probably gives a lot in return. Will report back when the wind shows up.



The wing tips collapse because there has to be pressure on the back lines all the time,listen to the recent Xfoils podcast with Sam,Walt and Dillon have great insight for flying them


Yeah interesting podcast.
Before Sam was on they were both saying it takes 6 sessions to dial in the Orbit.

I also recall Sam saying that current production that he's shortening the adjustment line.

I live in Auckland and saw Sam with a single skin on Lake Pupuke which is a very gusty location.
Leighbreeze
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21 Sep 2026 3:38pm
Piros said..
Spoke to Sam Loader (PPC owner) at the AWSI last week in Hood River , just a fluke I bumped into him. Told him I'm looking at wanting to get an Orbit , he informed that there is a single skin version in the mix right now and it's amazing , so I came home empty handed . The Ozone Pocket Rocket V2 won the innovation award at the 2026 AWSI which is pretty huge , there was so much incredible new gear there. I'll give it another 6 weeks or so waiting for my wind season to kick in properly before I pull the Para trigger again as I sold both my F-One Quest before heading over expecting to bring home the latest and greatest. The Para scene at the Gorge was absolutely mental with skill levels off the charts. The big stand out was all the young women just destroying it and the upwind reach angles of some riders was incredible almost looking like they were going dead upwind. 👀 The new Duotone will drop in Aus in December again supposed to be next level.

So Rob are you waiting for PPC new single skin?Or it may not be available for this season.


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