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9 Apr 2023 2:11pm
To have been "protected" against spreading the virus and catching it with the Astrazeneca vaccine?
If so, this video may be of some importance to your physical and mental well being
lotofwind
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9 Apr 2023 4:09pm
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.
psychojoe
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9 Apr 2023 3:09pm
lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.


No.
I'll move on when you pay my compensation.
lotofwind
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9 Apr 2023 6:35pm
lol, sure, I'll send ya $5 for your decision if you will let it go after all these years. but I think you will still be disgruntle with your life no matter how much taxpayers give you. Money doesn't fix your problems.
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9 Apr 2023 7:48pm
lotofwind said..
You're living in the past, done to death, move on.


Be easy to do for those unaffected. Unfortunately if you'd watch the clip you'll see that the implications for those 2 billion doses administered is something to be concerned about. Especially as Australia is saying AstraZeneca was removed as the other vaccines are more effective and the UK has removed it due to adverse reactions / effects. The almighty WHO are still saying it's safe and effective

If you continue to move on from this what will you let the liars get away with next ?
Your tax dollars paid for these vaccines, the private companies / ?lite shareholders get the profits and then your tax dollars again pay out compensation when people's lives are ruined.

Are you living on the same planet lot of wind or just delusional / in denial ?
remery
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9 Apr 2023 6:45pm
No I'm not one of the unlucky ones. I recently had my fifth COVID shot with no reaction. I've been continuously windsurfing and mountain bike riding with no issues, other than some fatigue a week after the second dose. Over the last year I'm back to travelling nationally and internationally.

I haven't had COVID, come to think of it I haven't been ill since the first lockdown. My wife and one of my 30 year old sons are the same. The son who lives in the US had mild COVID about 18 months ago but I think he has only had 2 or three shots..

I went overseas a month or two before COVID and was vaccinated for Hepatitis B, Rabies, Typhoid, Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Poliomyelitis and Influenza. Most recent international travel I was vaccinated for Influenza, Japanese encephalitis and Typhoid

You asked.
Flying Dutchman
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9 Apr 2023 7:57pm
lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.

We should treat the vaccine injured like returned war veterans with injuries. They took the vaccines for the greater good. It was marketed as 'safe & effective'. Clearly it wasn't for many people.

If the Government or your workplace mandated it & you got injured, then you should be entitled for compensation. Anything less than that & it's a scandal.
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9 Apr 2023 8:03pm
Flying Dutchman said..

We should treat the vaccine injured like returned war veterans with injuries. They did what they were told for the greater good. It was 'safe & effective'. If the Government or your workplace mandated it & you got injured, then you should be entitled for compensation. Anything less than that & it's a scandal.


We should have a public holiday called Anvax Day, maybe in August as there are not many holidays between Queens Birthday and Cup Day
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9 Apr 2023 10:12pm
remery said..
No I'm not one of the unlucky ones. I recently had my fifth COVID shot with no reaction. I've been continuously windsurfing and mountain bike riding with no issues, other than some fatigue a week after the second dose. Over the last year I'm back to travelling nationally and internationally.

I haven't had COVID, come to think of it I haven't been ill since the first lockdown. My wife and one of my 30 year old sons are the same. The son who lives in the US had mild COVID about 18 months ago but I think he has only had 2 or three shots..

I went overseas a month or two before COVID and was vaccinated for Hepatitis B, Rabies, Typhoid, Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Poliomyelitis and Influenza. Most recent international travel I was vaccinated for Influenza, Japanese encephalitis and Typhoid

You asked.


So you're saying that your fit healthy 30 year old son had two or three shots of a vaccine that was meant to prevent infection and spreading covid and still got it? Thank got for his age and likely health it was only mild.

Remery if you have had 5 shots that equates to about 30 weeks of protection at best. May I ask what your plan is for the future ? Will you continue to solely rely on vaccines / gene therapies ? Or will you eat healthy and exercise regularly?
Would you be upset and want answers if the vaccine had injured your healthy 30 year old son?
Imagine that following his shots he spent 18 months out of work, unable to provide a wage for his new born child, on medication with severe side effects and unemployable even after being told to change careers but no one will employ him as he can't pass a medical? What if the medication to fix what the vaccine had done caused severe illness too? Prednisone and high dose aspirin burnt holes in my stomach and throat to the point where I had to be sodomised by a camera.
The methotrexate they are trying to swap it out with atm has caused me to have renal failure.The TGA is now recommending only the severely immune compromised get vaccinated. They don't want fit healthy people getting vaccinated due to the risk of side effects.
If these gene therapies are so safe and effective why do they still need indemnity after 2 years ? Do they not work or are they dangerous?
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9 Apr 2023 10:20pm
Flying Dutchman said..

lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.


We should treat the vaccine injured like returned war veterans with injuries. They took the vaccines for the greater good. It was marketed as 'safe & effective'. Clearly it wasn't for many people.

If the Government or your workplace mandated it & you got injured, then you should be entitled for compensation. Anything less than that & it's a scandal.


I applied for the covid vaccine compensation scheme in May of 2022. Jabbed October 2021I finally got a response last week April 2023 asking for me to organise appointments with my cardiologist, immunologist & GP so that they can all confirm and rule out any other cause of my autoimmune condition that's continually enlarging my heart.
The covid compensation scheme in Australia is so overwhelmed and under staffed that it's not coping. I've spoken with many staff there who all sound depressed as hell after speaking with hundreds of thousand's vaccine injured people.
My doctors are in disbelief that it's taken so long for a response and that they want it in writing AGAIN. It will slowly come out how absolutely incompetent Australia was when it came to covid. But yeh sure move along
Flying Dutchman
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9 Apr 2023 8:34pm
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Flying Dutchman said..


lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.



We should treat the vaccine injured like returned war veterans with injuries. They took the vaccines for the greater good. It was marketed as 'safe & effective'. Clearly it wasn't for many people.

If the Government or your workplace mandated it & you got injured, then you should be entitled for compensation. Anything less than that & it's a scandal.



I applied for the covid vaccine compensation scheme in May of 2022. Jabbed October 2021I finally got a response last week April 2023 asking for me to organise appointments with my cardiologist, immunologist & GP so that they can all confirm and rule out any other cause of my autoimmune condition that's continually enlarging my heart.
The covid compensation scheme in Australia is so overwhelmed and under staffed that it's not coping. I've spoken with many staff there who all sound depressed as hell after speaking with hundreds of thousand's vaccine injured people.
My doctors are in disbelief that it's taken so long for a response and that they want it in writing AGAIN. It will slowly come out how absolutely incompetent Australia was when it came to covid. But yeh sure move along

All the best ok, I hope you get all the help you need.
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9 Apr 2023 8:35pm
myscreenname said..
We should have a public holiday called Anvax Day, maybe in August as there are not many holidays between Queens Birthday and Cup Day


A day ?

We had best part of two years public holiday last time. Except it was more like a WA public holiday than an everywhere else public holiday.

Everything was shut and what you could / couldn't do was controlled by antiquated laws.
psychojoe
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10 Apr 2023 7:34am
myscreenname said..


We should have a public holiday called Anvax Day, maybe in August as there are not many holidays between Queens Birthday and Cup Day


I know you're joking but I'd be all for it. It'd be great for the injured to be recognised rather than ostracized.
psychojoe
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10 Apr 2023 7:39am
lotofwind said..
lol, sure, I'll send ya $5 for your decision if you will let it go after all these years. but I think you will still be disgruntle with your life no matter how much taxpayers give you. Money doesn't fix your problems.


How much is victims compensation NSW?
$10,000 for primary victims of sexual assault involving serious bodily injury, multiple offenders, or an offensive weapon or a sexual assault, sexual act, or attempted sexual assault involving a series of incidents.


I guess if rape victims were happy to accept your $5 offer then I should be too
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10 Apr 2023 7:46am

Flying Dutchman said..


We should treat the vaccine injured like returned war veterans with injuries.


We do, we treat them exactly the same.

www.9news.com.au/world/australian-veterans-say-they-suffer-toxic-effects-of-anti-malaria-drug/83614dd5-4732-4902-b1b1-61f237c3f55b
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10 Apr 2023 10:43am
lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.


Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.
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10 Apr 2023 11:43am
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I applied for the covid vaccine compensation scheme in May of 2022. Jabbed October 2021I finally got a response last week April 2023 asking for me to organise appointments with my cardiologist, immunologist & GP so that they can all confirm and rule out any other cause of my autoimmune condition that's continually enlarging my heart.
The covid compensation scheme in Australia is so overwhelmed and under staffed that it's not coping. I've spoken with many staff there who all sound depressed as hell after speaking with hundreds of thousand's vaccine injured people.
My doctors are in disbelief that it's taken so long for a response and that they want it in writing AGAIN. It will slowly come out how absolutely incompetent Australia was when it came to covid. But yeh sure move along

We can't even apply since musculoskeletal injuries aren't covered. Although, I guess there's 60 years of disability pension on it's way.
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10 Apr 2023 2:55pm
japie said..

lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.



Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.


Yeah OK, its your own fault getting the jab and not listening to the head of the CT clan, Japie could have sorted you out with his magic horse medicine that would have saved you. You might have had an urge to go "nnnaaaaaahhhhhh and go for a trot" , but at least you wouldnt have to post for years on a water sports forum of how you made the wrong choice.
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10 Apr 2023 5:30pm
psychojoe said..

myscreenname said..


We should have a public holiday called Anvax Day, maybe in August as there are not many holidays between Queens Birthday and Cup Day



I know you're joking but I'd be all for it. It'd be great for the injured to be recognised rather than ostracized.


I guess someone somewhere is filtering out the shonks.
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10 Apr 2023 8:56pm
FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..


myscreenname said..


We should have a public holiday called Anvax Day, maybe in August as there are not many holidays between Queens Birthday and Cup Day




I know you're joking but I'd be all for it. It'd be great for the injured to be recognised rather than ostracized.



I guess someone somewhere is filtering out the shonks.


Yeh if you watch the clip you'll see how the "shonks" are slowly being filtered out. Unfortunately people will continue to suffer and it will be too late when it happens to someone close to you.
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10 Apr 2023 9:04pm
lotofwind said..

japie said..


lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.




Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.



Yeah OK, its your own fault getting the jab and not listening to the head of the CT clan, Japie could have sorted you out with his magic horse medicine that would have saved you. You might have had an urge to go "nnnaaaaaahhhhhh and go for a trot" , but at least you wouldnt have to post for years on a water sports forum of how you made the wrong choice.


I once had a mindset like you lotofwind and put labels on people with differing opinions and completely wrote them off. Now it's my Natropath who gives me "strange" aka organic medicines and supplements, regularly gets blood tests done and calls me regularly to check how I'm going. The doctor who told me to get vaccinated as it would stop the spread, prevent serious illness and stop me getting covid charged me $135.00 just to call up to get my prescriptions
It then costs me and my fellow tax payers a lot of money for subsidised medication which is produce by Pfizer

Lotofwind, I dare you to be more open minded. You may find something better to do with your time then post 6 THOUSAND TIMES on Seabreeze. I'd recommend the same for formulanova but at 13k posts he is to far gone !
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10 Apr 2023 7:58pm



FormulaNova
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10 Apr 2023 7:58pm
ok said..

lotofwind said..


japie said..



lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.





Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.




Yeah OK, its your own fault getting the jab and not listening to the head of the CT clan, Japie could have sorted you out with his magic horse medicine that would have saved you. You might have had an urge to go "nnnaaaaaahhhhhh and go for a trot" , but at least you wouldnt have to post for years on a water sports forum of how you made the wrong choice.



I once had a mindset like you lotofwind and put labels on people with differing opinions and completely wrote them off. Now it's my Natropath who gives me "strange" aka organic medicines and supplements, regularly gets blood tests done and calls me regularly to check how I'm going. The doctor who told me to get vaccinated as it would stop the spread, prevent serious illness and stop me getting covid charged me $135.00 just to call up to get my prescriptions
It then costs me and my fellow tax payers a lot of money for subsidised medication which is produce by Pfizer

Lotofwind, I dare you to be more open minded. You may find something better to do with your time then post 6 THOUSAND TIMES on Seabreeze. I'd recommend the same for formulanova but at 13k posts he is to far gone !


How do you feel about someone making up an injury and clogging up the system that should be there to support you?

There must be a tonne of people out there that 'felt bad' for a day or two and claimed an injury.

13 thousand posts heh? Imagine if I spent that time productively instead?
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10 Apr 2023 10:36pm
FormulaNova said..


ok said..



lotofwind said..




japie said..





lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.







Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.






Yeah OK, its your own fault getting the jab and not listening to the head of the CT clan, Japie could have sorted you out with his magic horse medicine that would have saved you. You might have had an urge to go "nnnaaaaaahhhhhh and go for a trot" , but at least you wouldnt have to post for years on a water sports forum of how you made the wrong choice.





I once had a mindset like you lotofwind and put labels on people with differing opinions and completely wrote them off. Now it's my Natropath who gives me "strange" aka organic medicines and supplements, regularly gets blood tests done and calls me regularly to check how I'm going. The doctor who told me to get vaccinated as it would stop the spread, prevent serious illness and stop me getting covid charged me $135.00 just to call up to get my prescriptions
It then costs me and my fellow tax payers a lot of money for subsidised medication which is produce by Pfizer

Lotofwind, I dare you to be more open minded. You may find something better to do with your time then post 6 THOUSAND TIMES on Seabreeze. I'd recommend the same for formulanova but at 13k posts he is to far gone !




How do you feel about someone making up an injury and clogging up the system that should be there to support you?

There must be a tonne of people out there that 'felt bad' for a day or two and claimed an injury.

13 thousand posts heh? Imagine if I spent that time productively instead?



Maybe but that tonne of people are weeded out extremely quickly. There's extremely strict rules and regulations in place. Harrows poor suffering daughter is one of those people who unfortunately aren't accepted by the scheme even tho it's an obvious well know side effect.
I've linked the form below which must be completed by all of your medical practitioners involved in your case.
www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-03/mo063-2304en-f.pdf

The form above has been amended/ updated multiple times in the last year or so for the ever evolving conditions related to the safe n effective gene therapy's.
I'll ask again. If after two years these vaccines are so safe and effective, why do they still need indemnity? Why is the British government being more honest than the plebs in Australia?
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10 Apr 2023 10:16pm
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FormulaNova said..



ok said..




lotofwind said..





japie said..






lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.








Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.







Yeah OK, its your own fault getting the jab and not listening to the head of the CT clan, Japie could have sorted you out with his magic horse medicine that would have saved you. You might have had an urge to go "nnnaaaaaahhhhhh and go for a trot" , but at least you wouldnt have to post for years on a water sports forum of how you made the wrong choice.






I once had a mindset like you lotofwind and put labels on people with differing opinions and completely wrote them off. Now it's my Natropath who gives me "strange" aka organic medicines and supplements, regularly gets blood tests done and calls me regularly to check how I'm going. The doctor who told me to get vaccinated as it would stop the spread, prevent serious illness and stop me getting covid charged me $135.00 just to call up to get my prescriptions
It then costs me and my fellow tax payers a lot of money for subsidised medication which is produce by Pfizer

Lotofwind, I dare you to be more open minded. You may find something better to do with your time then post 6 THOUSAND TIMES on Seabreeze. I'd recommend the same for formulanova but at 13k posts he is to far gone !





How do you feel about someone making up an injury and clogging up the system that should be there to support you?

There must be a tonne of people out there that 'felt bad' for a day or two and claimed an injury.

13 thousand posts heh? Imagine if I spent that time productively instead?




Maybe but that tonne of people are weeded out extremely quickly. There's extremely strict rules and regulations in place. Harrows poor suffering daughter is one of those people who unfortunately aren't accepted by the scheme even tho it's an obvious well know side effect.
I've linked the form below which must be completed by all of your medical practitioners involved in your case.
www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-03/mo063-2304en-f.pdf

The form above has been amended/ updated multiple times in the last year or so for the ever evolving conditions related to the safe n effective gene therapy's.
I'll ask again. If after two years these vaccines are so safe and effective, why do they still need indemnity? Why is the British government being more honest than the plebs in Australia?


Hey, can you at least stop calling it gene therapy? You are making me add to my post count just to correct you, and you know how people hate it when I have even more posts.

This sort of misunderstanding is what makes the anti-vaxxers so tiresome. If they could at least understand the process I would give them more credit.
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11 Apr 2023 5:55am
FormulaNova said..
Hey, can you at least stop calling it gene therapy?

You'll have to bring it up with the FDA.

Page 70

www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm
lotofwind
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11 Apr 2023 8:49am
How much money do you think you deserve from the taxpayers to make things better for you and stop preaching about it?? Maybe we could pass a hat around.
Flying Dutchman
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11 Apr 2023 7:00am
lotofwind said..
Maybe we could pass a hat around.

Pass the hat around to Pfizer, see how much they put in.
FormulaNova
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11 Apr 2023 7:08am
FormulaNova said..

ok said..


FormulaNova said..




ok said..





lotofwind said..






japie said..







lotofwind said..
Your living in the past, done to death, move on.









Really? I recall your magnanimity from three years back very well Sunshine. You don't move on from that ever. It's generational.








Yeah OK, its your own fault getting the jab and not listening to the head of the CT clan, Japie could have sorted you out with his magic horse medicine that would have saved you. You might have had an urge to go "nnnaaaaaahhhhhh and go for a trot" , but at least you wouldnt have to post for years on a water sports forum of how you made the wrong choice.







I once had a mindset like you lotofwind and put labels on people with differing opinions and completely wrote them off. Now it's my Natropath who gives me "strange" aka organic medicines and supplements, regularly gets blood tests done and calls me regularly to check how I'm going. The doctor who told me to get vaccinated as it would stop the spread, prevent serious illness and stop me getting covid charged me $135.00 just to call up to get my prescriptions
It then costs me and my fellow tax payers a lot of money for subsidised medication which is produce by Pfizer

Lotofwind, I dare you to be more open minded. You may find something better to do with your time then post 6 THOUSAND TIMES on Seabreeze. I'd recommend the same for formulanova but at 13k posts he is to far gone !






How do you feel about someone making up an injury and clogging up the system that should be there to support you?

There must be a tonne of people out there that 'felt bad' for a day or two and claimed an injury.

13 thousand posts heh? Imagine if I spent that time productively instead?





Maybe but that tonne of people are weeded out extremely quickly. There's extremely strict rules and regulations in place. Harrows poor suffering daughter is one of those people who unfortunately aren't accepted by the scheme even tho it's an obvious well know side effect.
I've linked the form below which must be completed by all of your medical practitioners involved in your case.
www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-03/mo063-2304en-f.pdf

The form above has been amended/ updated multiple times in the last year or so for the ever evolving conditions related to the safe n effective gene therapy's.
I'll ask again. If after two years these vaccines are so safe and effective, why do they still need indemnity? Why is the British government being more honest than the plebs in Australia?



Hey, can you at least stop calling it gene therapy? You are making me add to my post count just to correct you, and you know how people hate it when I have even more posts.

This sort of misunderstanding is what makes the anti-vaxxers so tiresome. If they could at least understand the process I would give them more credit.


Oh no! Carantoc is not the only one on the 'list of hidden'. FD is there as well.

Gene therapy makes changes to genes. I don't care what the FDA consider it. The use of 'gene therapy' by anti-vaxxers seems to imply that someone is making changes to our DNA to do something nefarious to us, and mRNA just doesn't do this. It's almost like its in the name.

I think that link is to one of the *hidden documents that Moderna has argued in court to be hidden for 70 years.

(*insert BS conspiracy theorist belief that things are hidden by the government)
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11 Apr 2023 9:23am
I'm not antivaxxer. If you want to continue being jabbed GO FOR IT

You may want to look at the current vaccine recommendations from Switzerland prior though.
As to payment from tax payers I don't want anything. It's hard to put a price on poisoning people especially as it doesn't only affect the physically sick. My mother has spent the last few months in a mental health hospital with severe anxiety as she can't forgive herself for telling me to go get vaccinated.
It's not her fault it's the pharmaceutical companies who are putting this poison out and then marketing that it's a safe effective product. When clearly it's not. I wonder how many people will have to die and ladies have miscarriages after boosters before formulanova stops being a *redacted* for big pharma

this thread is to inform others so hopefully no one else has to give up there favourite water sports due to a vaccine injury.
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