Reading the MA "next generation" do-it-all foil promo does that mean the HA, HS and CFV2 hydrofoil wings are old and obsolete? Lately I've been noticing higher than usual sales of used Armstrong foils.

Ingenuity said..
Reading the MA "next generation" do-it-all foil promo does that mean the HA, HS and CFV2 hydrofoil wings are old and obsolete?

I doubt that's the case at all. It's just another splitting of the various rabbit holes we can all wander down.

I see a lot of bigger guys and folks just getting started benefiting from what the CF and HS range offer in both performance and use market value.

Oahuwaterwalker said..
MA800 Just landed...

Looks like a very thin HS wing with HA curves (tips are slightly turned up). Looking forward to giving this a go when the wind comes back.

Looks good. I'll be getting mine on Friday--will have a look at the 1000 as well. Yesterday was our last day of good wind on Maui for a little while.

Any overlay comparison pics? From HS/HA line is against a HS850 or HA925.

eppo said..

Oahuwaterwalker said..
MA800 Just landed...

Looks like a very thin HS wing with HA curves (tips are slightly turned up). Looking forward to giving this a go when the wind comes back.

Looks like there is a lot going on profile wise both lat and long. man let us know how it goes. Quite a lot more HA in that design than the prototype we looked in a month or so back when armie was here - which looked more like a thinned out HS. A HS with the new CF v2 thinness. Im really glad they moved it closer to HA end of the spectrum.

I know that the CFv2 was a stop-taking-the-piss moment for many, especially for the prone community, but I think Armstrong was able to ascertain that a low-aspect foil, with the right amount of thickness (thinness) and appropriate camber line, could still be capable of a lot more than just getting a beginner on foil. The 1200v2 didn't last long in my quiver but the 950v2 stuck around until a few weeks ago--super playful in small surf, at least for winging. We're in for a real treat if the marketing blurb is anything to go by.

MA takes everything we've learned from the HS, HA and CFV2 ranges and delivers a truly next-gen combination of glide, low stall speed, intuitive carving and instantaneous breach recovery. These foils offer the best of all worlds to experienced riders in every foil sport.

I'll be picking up my 800 tomorrow (and maybe 1000). Photos to follow.

I've tried almost every Armstrong wing on the market and have a 795 mast and MA 1000 on order. In my opinion nothing compares to the old trustie HS 1050 for smashing surf from 1.5 to 5 foot prone. It will want to be good because that will be my last one that I get suck into again. I love my HS 1050

kobo said..

paulweller2 said..

eppo said..

Oahuwaterwalker said..
MA800 Just landed...

Looks like a very thin HS wing with HA curves (tips are slightly turned up). Looking forward to giving this a go when the wind comes back.

Looks like there is a lot going on profile wise both lat and long. man let us know how it goes. Quite a lot more HA in that design than the prototype we looked in a month or so back when armie was here - which looked more like a thinned out HS. A HS with the new CF v2 thinness. Im really glad they moved it closer to HA end of the spectrum.

I know that the CFv2 was a stop-taking-the-piss moment for many, especially for the prone community, but I think Armstrong was able to ascertain that a low-aspect foil, with the right amount of thickness (thinness) and appropriate camber line, could still be capable of a lot more than just getting a beginner on foil. The 1200v2 didn't last long in my quiver but the 950v2 stuck around until a few weeks ago--super playful in small surf, at least for winging. We're in for a real treat if the marketing blurb is anything to go by.

MA takes everything we've learned from the HS, HA and CFV2 ranges and delivers a truly next-gen combination of glide, low stall speed, intuitive carving and instantaneous breach recovery. These foils offer the best of all worlds to experienced riders in every foil sport.

I'll be picking up my 800 tomorrow (and maybe 1000). Photos to follow.

Adam Bennett's rode the 800 with new mast in Fiji and commented that it didn't have the glide or pump of the Cab but it surfed much better ..I'm thinking I'll have to wait until the HA line is revamped cause I'm pretty happy with current HA and don't want to lose any performance except a little more low end would be good.

Interesting .. we will have to wait and see I suppose how it performs for the average joe - adam bennet is in a different class to most of us. Look you can't get passed the laws of physics. Nothing is gonna glide and have the speed of those HA wings. I'd definitely consider the mast though - might unlock a whole new aspect to your HA wings and I predict will circumnavigate some of the low end problems - as the mast glides more is faster which all add up to more HA low end tolerance.

MAs up on the site:

www.armstrongfoils.com/products/foils/

launch promo:

www.instagram.com/reel/CmMIKiDgbOW/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Nuzzo on water winging review:

kobo said..

paulweller2 said..

eppo said..

Oahuwaterwalker said..
MA800 Just landed...

Looks like a very thin HS wing with HA curves (tips are slightly turned up). Looking forward to giving this a go when the wind comes back.





I'll have to wait until the HA line is revamped cause I'm pretty happy with current HA and don't want to lose any performance except a little more low end would be good.

I am/was thinking the same thing. The 935 has really taken the 725 to an entirely new level. I picked up the MA800 out of curiosity and with the intention that I might not keep it. After listening to reviews, I'm actually thinking I might be better served by sticking with the 725 and adding a 50cm fuse to my kit.

The MA sounds killer but I'm not sure about going from the speed and glide of the 725 to something with less. Might make more sense as a transition from HS wings or to replace larger HA wings, but I'll have to try it and see for myself lol.

Wishing I had my MA800 for todays 2M and HA725 session!! I'm hoping it will allow for more confidence inspiring cutbacks and hacks on downwind bumps. 725 can really crank, but it's so fast in bumps that it will easily overrun or end up on the back of a bump, plus it is a bit demanding!
I'm with Oskar on the 1050 love. Won't ever sell that one. If these can turn like that and allow pump outs prone and good bump riding DW.I'll be frothing so hard.
Flat breach recovery sounds freaky good. Like better be ready on a breach because that board may be coming back up at ya! No noodle legs if you like your knees.

Did ya like my little Santa in the middle shot

just need some wind over next few days..

Photos--from top to bottom: 725, 800, 1225.

paulweller2 said..
Some more photos. 800 and 925. The 800 is definitely thinner at the LE.

How do you plan on using the 925 vs. the 800? Or I should ask, how do think about uses cases if you have both these foils? Or too early to tell?